[nabs-l] No Braille? No Literacy!

Sun Apr 26 02:25:03 UTC 2015

Salutations, I hope this message finds everyone doing well.
From The production perspective is a great deal more costly than a refreshable braille device at the end of the day. One textbook could theoretically consist of more than 2500 print pages would be double that size in braille. I have not seen a fee scale for a braille embossing job in several years, so my numbers may be a bit off, but at that time it was estimated that to produce just one side of non-interpoint braille would cost approximately $2.25 per page, and I believe this estimate was the lower end. Keeping this in mind, it is definitely more cost-effective to have a refreshable braille device as opposed to thousands of braille pages. From a consumer perspective the affordability of said devices is a whole Nother can of worms. 

Jordy D. Stringer Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 25, 2015, at 8:15 PM, Darian Smith via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> I think Arielle brings up some valid points here.
> The one point I would question is how technology has served to make  access to braille more  affordable?
> 
>   Maybe this is the case in relative terms, but until most anyone who wants access to braille can go out and get a  device    that makes braille portable I don’t think I could agree with that particular point.
>  Darian      
>> On Apr 25, 2015, at 5:02 PM, Arielle Silverman via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all. I don't understand why there's any doubt that Braille literacy
>> is needed for literacy. The way I see it, we expect all sighted people
>> in nearly all cultures to be print literate. Why would we expect less
>> from the blind? If a day comes when listening is considered an
>> acceptable form of literacy for sighted people, then I might change my
>> mind, but for now I think it is a simple matter of whether or not we
>> believe blind people should achieve the same literacy standards. If
>> blind people should hope to communicate in writing with anyone else,
>> we need to know spelling, capitalization, written grammar, and
>> punctuation rules. The fact is we can get these from Braille but not
>> from listening alone. Furthermore, Braille is the only reliable way
>> for us to access any written material we want to read aloud to
>> somebody else, whether that be our young children or our audience at a
>> professional conference. It's extremely hard to read a prepared speech
>> or a storybook aloud to others while listening to it. If we hope to
>> meet the same standards of written communication, and translation
>> between oral and written modes, as our sighted peers, then we need
>> Braille. I also get really annoyed when people try to say that
>> technology has "replaced" Braille. Technology actually makes Braille
>> infinitely more portable and affordable than it was before.
>> Best, Arielle
>> 
>>> On 4/25/15, Joe via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org <mailto:nabs-l at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
>>> I wish my cable company would feel the same way about not making me pay
>>> that
>>> kind of money. LOL
>>> 
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>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Hudson
>>> via nabs-l
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 5:04 PM
>>> To: Mabelin Ramirez; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] No Braille? No Literacy!
>>> 
>>> Hi, what same time I agree with you but one thing that you have to
>>> understand is that it takes money and manpower in order to produce the
>>> documents for the braille. Not everybody, and knows how to produce things
>>> in
>>> braille. This is why I'll rely on email for my Electric bill, and my cable
>>> bill. Because I don't want to have to have my company payout that kind of
>>> money.
>>> Joseph Hudson
>>> I device support
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>>>>> On Apr 25, 2015, at 3:56 PM, Mabelin Ramirez via nabs-l
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I honestly think that braille should be put on all documents that we
>>>> blind
>>> folk receive. Because think about this for a minute, we won't always have
>>> sighted peers around us.
>>>> We can't always depend on sighted folks all the time to read things to
>>>> us.
>>> Plus the scanning apps we sometimes use aren't very accurate when it comes
>>> to printed material. This should also apply in schools as well.
>>>> I'm just voicing my opinion on this.
>>>> If anyone disagrees that is fine.
>>>> All of us have our own opinions.
>>>> This is just my thought on the matter.
>>>> Take care all,
>>>> Mabelin
>>>> 
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