[nabs-l] I'm looking for a book

Sun Jan 11 23:37:53 UTC 2015

I think someone already mentioned that statistics books have a lot of
tables and graphs in them that are impossible to make accessible
electronically. No matter if a pdf is completely readable, there's no
way for you to read tables and graphs with Jaws. One option is for you
to ask your DS office to make the text portions of the book accessible
and then get a reader to describe the visual material for you, or you
could make them braille the book fo ryou. I tok Stats last year and my
DS office had to braille the book fo rme because I can't do math by
listening to it.

Minh

On 1/11/15, Elif Emir Öksüz <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> They wanted me to send an example to show what I want.
> Does anyone have a good processed statistic book chapter, only one
> chapter, with some tables and grafs?
> Would you mind shareing it with me.
> I have bunch of examples but they are not statistic books, so not many
> tables and graffs are not in them.
>
> 2015-01-11 11:47 GMT-05:00, Elif Emir Öksüz <filerime at gmail.com>:
>> I read on reviews that the online version of this book is extremely
>> bad so I bought the paper coppy hoping that my disability office will
>> take care of it. They already requested it from the publisher. While
>> waiting for it, one of the other books came from publisher. They
>> directly forwarded the pdf to me as an accessible format.
>> I went there and talked to them, and I understood they have no idea
>> about alternate texts. I am so disappointed with them. I don't believe
>> that they can manage to prepare a statistic book.
>> I need to educate them I think. Maybe in this point NFB can be
>> helpful. If they insist on sending pdfs I'll let you know for some
>> help from nfb.
>> UC doesn't have a real blind student for years. They have some legally
>> blind people but not totally.
>> Thanks for your suggestions.
>> I'll still request it from bookshare. They can be more successful then my
>> guys.
>>
>>
>> 2015-01-11 7:33 GMT-05:00, Karl Martin Adam via nabs-l
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>:
>>> The trouble with that is this is a stats book, which means it
>>> will include a large number of tables, graphs, and mathematical
>>> formulae, and Bookshare does not typically transcribe these
>>> properly nor are they accessible in a pdf from the publisher.
>>> Someone would have to actually sit down and write in descriptions
>>> of the graphs etc. to make the book accessible.  This is awkward,
>>> but if you can't get that done, you might have to have your dss
>>> provide you with a reader to sit down and explain the graphs and
>>> formulae to you.  Make sure you get them to give you someone who
>>> knows statistics--sometimes they will give you like an exercise
>>> science major or something, and they will have a really hard time
>>> describing things.
>>>
>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Tamika Williams via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> To: "filerime at gmail.com" <filerime at gmail.com>,National
>>> Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Date sent: Sat, 10 Jan 2015 17:10:19 -0600
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] I'm looking for a book
>>>
>>> If you have already tried both Learning Ally and Bookshare then I
>>> have a few other  suggestions. you should ccontact your bookstore
>>> to see if the print version of the book comes with an access code
>>> that gives you access to the online version of the textbook. If
>>> that is not a choice then you or your Disabled Student Services
>>> could request an electronic copy directly from the publisher.
>>> Lastly, you could put in a special request on Bookshare and if
>>> they can obtain the book they will make it available to you as
>>> soon as they can. I will tell you though that if you choose to
>>> request a book from the publisher or if you pace a special
>>> request from Bookshare that i may take a while before you get it.
>>>
>>> HTH
>>> Tamika Willliams
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>  On Jan 10, 2015, at 1:50 PM, Elif via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Book share doesn't have that particular book they have other
>>> statistical books
>>>
>>>  Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>  On Jan 10, 2015, at 13:36, Arielle Silverman
>>> <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hi Elif, Have you checked BookShare or Learning Ally?
>>>  Arielle
>>>
>>>  On 1/9/15, Elif Emir 횜ks체z <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>  Hello all,
>>>  For 2 of my spring courses I need a book. Unfortunetly my new
>>> school
>>>  has a little idea and experience about alternate texts. They
>>> think
>>>  that a simple pdf is accessible
>>>  I also registered to those classes very late. So they are in
>>> short of
>>>  time and don't have so much past experience.
>>>  Did anyone use this book in accessible format?
>>>  An introduction to statistical concepts? 3rd edition
>>>  Richard Lomax, it should be 2012 or 2013
>>>  If yes please let me know. My school can ask your school's
>>> disability
>>>  services dept to get the accessible version of it from there.
>>>
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>>>   I don't want to read that book in Odeal because there are so
>>> many tables and screenshotsDs in this book
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