[nagdu] Dog Therapy and Paws that Heal
Pickrell, Rebecca M (IT)
REBECCA.PICKRELL at ngc.com
Tue Feb 17 18:24:21 UTC 2009
Linda,
What are the requirements for the Paws program?
Also, why do you think that until recently, Seeing Eye teams were the
only ones that made it into work this program?
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From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of lindagwizdak at peoplepc.com
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 1:14 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog Therapy and Paws that Heal
Hi Haben,
Unfortunately, the Naval Medical Center cannot pay us. They're cutting
their paid staff! And wasting money to revamp several areas on the base.
It would be nice to be paid, but...you know how that is. I'm glad you
enjoyed the articles. We enjoy what we do pay or no pay. I'd say that
our "pay" is the contribution to the healing of our Wounded Warriors.
These servicemembers are all mostly 18 and 19 year olds who went into
the military because they wanted to serve the country they love. We
feel that the program is a way that we can also serve our country - we
can't serve in the military ourselves. We see first hand what this long
war in Iraq and Afghanistan is doing to our young people. Most of the
wounded are brain injuries, depression, and PTSD (Post Traumatic Stress
Disorder). Unlike in the war in Vietnam, the current servicemembers
have to be deployed for over a year at a time and they are also deployed
over and over. Even sick folks are sent back! Not good. Many of our
patients are so sick and affected for life that they are forced out of
the military. They all say in their exit interviews that the Paws That
Heal program was a huge help in their recovery.
Well, until yesterday, all the Paws That Heal canine staff were Seeing
Eye dogs! We have accepted our newest staffmember and her dog is from
Guide Dogs for the Blind - San Rafael Campus. We didn't ever
discriminate against dogs from other schools - we just didn't have any
who qualified until now (smile!).
Now, about Seeing Eye. You are treated as the mature adult that they
assume you are. The campus is really nice - nestled in the lovely
rolling hills of Washington Valley in Morris Township, New Jersey. The
living arrangements are comfortable and homey. The grounds are nice to
walk around. There's a leisure path with two gazebos. The staff is
very friendly and professional in their interactions with the blind
people. The Seeing Eye is a tough place to find job openings - even
jobs like cooks or housekeeping. They are a great employer and people
don't want to leave! All of the staff is comfortable with blindness.
I've heard that the staff spends some time under blindfold for them to
gain a sensitivity towards the blind people they work with. You have
your own room to yourself with your own bathroom.
There are lounges to hang out in with stereos and TVs. There's an
exercise room, laundryroom, dog grooming room, and a computer room with
CCTVs and a Ham Radio if you are qualified to use that. In each room is
a radio, I think they still have Satellite radio that a graduate donated
for the dorm.
They got this right after I was there.
The diningroom similates a restaurant setting. At lunch time during the
weekdays, the whole staff eats there. One or two staff people sits at
each table with the students. Other staffmembers eat in another area
that the students must pass through as the staff come to eat about ten
minutes before the students are called to lunch. Now, this teaches us
how to handle our new dogs in a situation where people are already
eating at tables and we learn how to keep proper control of our dogs in
a place where there is food around. The food is delicious and is much
like that served in a fine-dining restaurant. They feed you so good
that we have to make use of the exercise room and the leisure path!
The training is the best I've experienced. I have attended three other
schools before I attended The Seeing Eye. After experiencing The Seeing
Eye, I will not even consider any other school. The other schools do a
decent job, but the Seeing Eye still shines brighter.
The instructors are very good and thorough in teaching us EVERYTHING we
need to know aboout guide dog care and use. We train in Morristown - a
lovely town - and other nearby communities. We have four basic routes
that we do in the beginning. Towards the end we do "free lance" which
is any particular aspect of training that you feel you need. With one
dog, I was living nearby my sister-in-law who has horses. I was always
over there and riding. I needed to have a dog who wouldn't freak out
over horses. My instructor arranged a visit to a barn full of horses.
With Landon, my instructors knew about my work with Paws That Heal. I
was taken on a visit to a nursing home and Landon got to visit with the
patients. He loved it!
We have lots of good lectures. We get training with traffic checks,
even with the hybrid Prius car! Each instructor has four students in
his or her class so you get alot of personal attention.
I would say that the experience is like a working vacation. Learn all
you can and have fun! If you have any concerns - no matter what - talk
to your instructor. The only "stupid question" is the one never asked
(grin!).
Also, you have a ready made community right here on the NAGDU List. We
are a wealth of information and experience here as we represent many,
many years of hands-on experience with using guide dogs.
Hopefully, this has answered your questions (grin).
Take care and let us know when you go to Seeing Eye.
Regards,
Linda and Landon
----- Original Message -----
From: "Haben Girma" <habnkid at aol.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 7:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog Therapy and Paws that Heal
>
> Hey Linda, I loved the articles. It's very touching, such a truly
> marvelous program. You should ask the Naval Medical Center to pay the
> blind volunteers? The program has proven its benefits, its
successfulness,
> and I'm sure many of the military men you serve in the program would
> agree. It wouldn't hurt to ask.
>
> I've heard many good things about The Seeing Eye. I'd love to hear
your
> reasons for ranking it as the best school. I laughed when I read that
only
> Seeing Eye teams had passed the interviews for Paws that Heal.
>
> best,
> Haben
>
> lindagwizdak at peoplepc.com wrote:
>> Hi Haben,
>> Yes, isn't it a shame that governments get in the way sometimes. The
>> singer/songwriter Sting has a song about the Cold War between the US
and
>> the old USSR. There is a reoccuring line in the song about the
Russians
>> loving their children as the Americans love theirs! Thanks for the
>> explanations about Eritrea and Ethiopia.
>>
>> Hey! Wonderful about you going to The Seeing Eye! I've been to
several
>> other schools over the years - I've had dogs since 1973. I like The
>> Seeing Eye the best. I would have started out with them back in 1973
>> but, at that time, The Seeing Eye didn't accept people who still had
some
>> usable vision. They soon realized that some people with limited
vision do
>> well with guide dogs and began to accept us. There are some people
who
>> have some vision and they don't learn to trust the dog and it doesn't
go
>> well for the team. Some people with partial vision second guess the
dog
>> and the team gets in trouble. You get hurt because the envirnment
isn't
>> what you thought you saw. The dog gets real confused and stops doing
its
>> job. The Seeing Eye will work you under blindfold if they suspect you
are
>> having trust troubles with your dog. Most people learn to trust
their
>> dog.
>>
>> There are ways to use the usable vision with the dog. I do that all
the
>> time. However, I "listen" to my dog if he doesn't want to go through
>> something or he takes me around a black spot on the sidewalk - that
tells
>> me that the black spot was actually a hole! So, TRUST YOUR DOG!
(grin!)
>> I also have no night vision - just lights "floating" in the blackness
of
>> the night. I HAVE to trust my dog as if I were totally blind.
>>
>> I also use ZoomText for the PDF files. What did you think about the
Paws
>> program?
>>
>> You take care,
>>
>> Linda and Landon
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Haben Girma" <habnkid at aol.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 7:08 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog Therapy and Paws that Heal
>>
>>
>>> Hi Linda,
>>>
>>> The governments of Eritrea and Ethiopia do not get along at all,
they've
>>> been at the verge of war for the last few years, with fighting
breaking
>>> out at the border every now and then. The typical civilian does not
hate
>>> the civilians of the other country. I have family on both sides of
the
>>> border, and quite a lot of people have family on both sides. The
>>> cultures are very similar, almost identical, and some parts of each
>>> country share languages. Most Eritreans don't like Ethiopia, but
they
>>> have Ethiopian friends.
>>>
>>> Yes, I was able to read the attachments. I use ZoomText, so the pdfs
>>> weren't a problem. I hope the interview with the woman goes well.
>>>
>>> I hope to have a dog by this summer, I'm in the application process
with
>>> The Seeing Eye at the moment. I've heard lots of good things about
that
>>> place.
>>>
>>> best,
>>> Haben
>>>
>>> lindagwizdak at peoplepc.com wrote:
>>>> Hi Haben,
>>>> Thanks. We have alot of Eritrians here in San Diego. I heard that
the
>>>> Eritreans and the Ethiopians don't like each other - is this true?
I
>>>> hope not - I don't like people having age-old grudges against each
>>>> other - you know - it limits your friendships with people. (grin!)
>>>>
>>>> Were you able to read the Paws That Heal attachments I sent you? I
>>>> know that screen readers and PDF files don't always agree with each
>>>> other. Tell me what you think.
>>>>
>>>> Tomorrow, we're interviewing a local woman and her guide dog for
the
>>>> Paws program. I want to make sure we have another good person in
it
>>>> before I have to leave in July.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know if I missed something - do you have a dog? If so,
what
>>>> kind is it and what's its name? I do know that we have people on
the
>>>> list who are between dogs, exploring the possibilities for a first
dog.
>>>> My dog Landon is a Golden/Lab mix and he's red. He's from the
Seeing
>>>> Eye in New Jersey.
>>>>
>>>> Take care,
>>>>
>>>> Linda and Landon
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Haben Girma" <habnkid at aol.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 5:13 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog Therapy and Paws that Heal
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the articles, Linda!
>>>>>
>>>>> I identify as female, born in California with family from Eritrea,
>>>>> East Africa. Haben is actually a gender neutral name in Eritrea,
so
>>>>> it's a legitimate question all around. I like the ambiguity,
>>>>> especially when filling out applications for various things.
>>>>>
>>>>> best,
>>>>> Haben
>>>>>
>>>>> lindagwizdak at peoplepc.com wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Haben,
>>>>>> Attached are a couple of articles and a flyer aboout the Paws
That
>>>>>> Heal program. One article and the flyer are in PDF files and the
>>>>>> other article is in a work doc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can't tell from your name if you are a male or female - I just
like
>>>>>> to know what I'm talking to! (grin). What nationality is your
name?
>>>>>> I'm half Polish. It took me an age to find out that Marion
Gwizdala
>>>>>> is a man!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Enjoy the articles.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Linda and Landon
>>>>>>
>>>>>> PS: Your home e-mail didn't work so this is on the list.
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Haben Girma"
<habnkid at aol.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 7:03 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Dog Therapy and Paws that Heal
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Linda, I am absolutely intrigued! That is such a lovely program!
I
>>>>>>> really hope I can find something like that in the Portland,
Oregon
>>>>>>> area. I am a college student currently taking an anthropology
class
>>>>>>> that requires students to go out and do fieldwork. I am
considering
>>>>>>> doing something with Guide Dogs for the Blind in Boring, Oregon.
>>>>>>> Right now I'm going to search the Internet for a dog therapy
program
>>>>>>> in Portland. Thanks for sharing LInda!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Haben
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> lindagwizdak at peoplepc.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi Haben,
>>>>>>>> There is no web page for Paws That Heal. We are a 3 year old
>>>>>>>> program that is run out of the Health & Wellness Department for
the
>>>>>>>> Naval Medical Center of San Diego. The program manager is
their
>>>>>>>> Diabetes Instructor. She is visually impaired with a guide dog
and
>>>>>>>> she started the program after an encounter in the elevator with
a
>>>>>>>> Wounded Warrior in her building. The servicemember had a
profound
>>>>>>>> stutter and it took him five minutes to stutter out, "May I pet
>>>>>>>> your dog?" My friend - the instructor - allowed him to pet her
dog
>>>>>>>> and the stutter went away just like that! He then shared his
war
>>>>>>>> experiences with her - the servicemember was wounded in Iraq.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anyway, the Diabetes instructor happens to have been a friend
of
>>>>>>>> mine for years. She also knows several of the other guide dog
>>>>>>>> users in the San Diego area who already had a program with the
>>>>>>>> local blind center where we bring our dogs to an outdoor,
fenced in
>>>>>>>> dog park to allow the guide dogs play time together. We had
>>>>>>>> exclusive use of one of the fenced in areas for two hours once
a
>>>>>>>> month. The friend of mine worked with us and her chain of
command
>>>>>>>> at the hospital and permission was granted to bring several
wounded
>>>>>>>> servicemembers to the park to play with our dogs - and Paws
That
>>>>>>>> Heal was born. We also have a portion of the program where we
go
>>>>>>>> to the locked mental health ward to work with the
servicemembers
>>>>>>>> with PTSD and depression. More great stuff happened as well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I do have a flyer for the program but it is in a PDF file and
>>>>>>>> turned sideways - don't know if a screen reader can desipher
it!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The program manager has written to Marion Gwizdala and he in
turn
>>>>>>>> had her contact Mike Hingson about the program. We are looking
for
>>>>>>>> some new teams to work with us who live in the San Diego area.
The
>>>>>>>> Paws program happens three times a month at the hospital so we
need
>>>>>>>> people who can get there, can commit the time, and pass the
>>>>>>>> interviewing process - both human and dog.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I forgot, where do you live?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> HTH
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Linda and Landon
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Haben Girma"
<habnkid at aol.com>
>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 1:13 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Welcome Haben
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Linda, those volunteer programs sound awesome! Would you send
me
>>>>>>>>> the web address for Paws that Heal? I'd love to read more
about
>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Haben
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> lindagwizdak at peoplepc.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Welcome to the list, Haben.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm Linda and I live in San Diego - soon to move to Vermont.
>>>>>>>>>> Landon is my 3 year old red Lab/Golden cross from The Seeing
Eye.
>>>>>>>>>> I got him in the October 2007 class. I am 58 years young and
have
>>>>>>>>>> not had a paid job in eons. I've done lots of volunteer jobs
to
>>>>>>>>>> get experience to put on a resume! Right now, Landon and I
work
>>>>>>>>>> at two pet therapy programs. One for the Humane Society
where we
>>>>>>>>>> visit various facilities for disabled kids and adults. Landon
is
>>>>>>>>>> certified by the AKC's Canine Good Citizenship Test. Landon
is
>>>>>>>>>> their program's first actual working assistance dog they've
had.
>>>>>>>>>> Lots of guide dog and service dog pups, but we are their
first
>>>>>>>>>> working team to be in the program. The other one is a
program
>>>>>>>>>> called Paws That Heal that is at the Naval Medical Center of
SD.
>>>>>>>>>> Both Landon and I had to pass a series of interviews for
this.
>>>>>>>>>> We do a combo pet therapy, socialization, and reintegration
work
>>>>>>>>>> with our Wounded Warriors from Iraq and Afghanistan. We work
>>>>>>>>>> mainly with the patients on the mental health ward.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Haben, you'll enjoy this list - it's alot of fun.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Linda and Landon
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Haben Girma"
>>>>>>>>>> <habnkid at aol.com>
>>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>>>> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 9:27 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Welcome Haben
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Mardi, thanks for the explanations. I love the names of
your
>>>>>>>>>>> dogs. I actually don't have a dog, I'm in the application
>>>>>>>>>>> process for a Seeing Eye dog right now. So, I'm patiently
>>>>>>>>>>> waiting to learn my fate.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>> Haben
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Mardi Hadfield wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi every one, Welcome Haben. No, I don't live in
Alaska.
>>>>>>>>>>>> My Huskies
>>>>>>>>>>>> are "south paws" We live in Tucson, Arizona. When I first
>>>>>>>>>>>> needed a guide
>>>>>>>>>>>> dog, I was told that the schools did not train for
wheelchair
>>>>>>>>>>>> users.Since I
>>>>>>>>>>>> already had a service dog, who was a husky, I hired a
trainer
>>>>>>>>>>>> to help me
>>>>>>>>>>>> train Lily to guide me. I had to retire her at age 8 as
she
>>>>>>>>>>>> had health
>>>>>>>>>>>> issues and she died month later, leaving me with out a
guide
>>>>>>>>>>>> dog. I tried
>>>>>>>>>>>> out a border collie and he did not work out as he had been
>>>>>>>>>>>> abused before I
>>>>>>>>>>>> got him and he could not handle being out in public. Then I
got
>>>>>>>>>>>> another
>>>>>>>>>>>> husky, Nala,who was a fantastic guide. She will soon be 10
>>>>>>>>>>>> years old and has
>>>>>>>>>>>> health issues now.She has guided me for 8 years and it has
been
>>>>>>>>>>>> hard to
>>>>>>>>>>>> retire her as she does not want to retire. When she sees me
>>>>>>>>>>>> getting ready to
>>>>>>>>>>>> go out, she brings me her harness and get all excited. She
>>>>>>>>>>>> started picking
>>>>>>>>>>>> fights with Wanagi, the dog that I was training to take
over
>>>>>>>>>>>> for Nala. She
>>>>>>>>>>>> is a lot happier now that she is working again part time.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Wanagi came up
>>>>>>>>>>>> lame with a hip problem, so she was career changed. I am
>>>>>>>>>>>> keeping her as a
>>>>>>>>>>>> pet. I have been looking for a dog to take over as my new
guide
>>>>>>>>>>>> for over 10
>>>>>>>>>>>> months. I think I have finally found a dog.I would love to
get
>>>>>>>>>>>> a dog from
>>>>>>>>>>>> Fidelco,but when I asked about it ,I was told that they
don't
>>>>>>>>>>>> train for
>>>>>>>>>>>> wheelchair users.I would have to pay my way to and from
South
>>>>>>>>>>>> Eastern Guide
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dogs, which I could not afford, and really can't be away
that
>>>>>>>>>>>> long. Guide
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dogs for the Blind would take me ,but again, I can't be
away
>>>>>>>>>>>> from my home
>>>>>>>>>>>> and business that long. So I guess I will just continue to
>>>>>>>>>>>> train my own
>>>>>>>>>>>> guides with the help of my trainer. Haben, do you have a
guide
>>>>>>>>>>>> dog? If so ,
>>>>>>>>>>>> what breed is it? I love hearing from others and about
their
>>>>>>>>>>>> dogs. Have a
>>>>>>>>>>>> great day, Mardi and Nala,semi-retired, and Shaman ,
possible
>>>>>>>>>>>> trainee.
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