[nagdu] Small house, Big yard, I don't think PET is the right word.

Sat Jan 10 00:19:31 UTC 2009

Hi Joy,
I was referring to the dogs who are very obviously unfit for the job - no 
matter what the person's disability.  I wish all dog owners would socialize 
their dogs so they are comfortable out in a public setting.  Too many people 
get a pet that has never been out in public and subject it to the scary 
world.  Poor thing is so scared and that's why some of them behave as they 
do - from fear.

Linda and Landon
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] Small house, Big yard,I don't think PET is the right 
word.

> Linda, Et al,
>
> I agree with you about all. Especially the fish. Thank goodness humans 
> don't
> have the same habits, but sometimes what we do is worse.
>
> I agree about the comfort and/or companion dogs and their behavior. 
> However,
> I caution that we should not assume first, that the dogs weren't well
> trained. Sometimes the best dog just doesn't like something about another
> dog. Two, even the so called trained dog used for guiding is sometimes not
> kept in training. It's the human, not the dog who needs to take
> responsibility. Unfortunately, we users are judged by the behavior of all
> guide dogs. I have even had people come up to me and say "that other dog,
> the shepherd you have isn't as good of a dog as this one, is he?" I find
> this strange, and amusing anymore. I have never owned a shepherd. Not a 
> pet
> or a guide. Since all blind people look alike, we're going to be judged as
> being the same. WE have to remember that these are the ignorant and
> patiently explain to them when appropriate, or let it run off our backs 
> like
> water on a duck.
>
> Obviously, there's a spoonful of humor mixed in my comments. You can't 
> take
> everything literally.
>
> Joy and Bell SEI Grads
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of lindagwizdak at peoplepc.com
> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 8:14 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Small house, Big yard,I don't think PET is the right
> word.
>
>
> Hey Mardi, I had a chuckle about the guppies and the need to seperate the
> babies. We had them as kids and we had tons of them and suddenly, there 
> were
>
> only a few of them - yummy babies!! (grin!)
>
> I think people really object to the "emotional support" dogs that aren't
> trained to do anything.  The problem comes in when these dogs are out in
> public and they aren't socialized for that and they create alot of trouble
> for people around them. I was just talking to someone yesterday and he was
> telling me about these two supposed service dogs in a little market nearby
> his home.  They were growling and wanting to fight each other in the 
> market.
>
> He said he couldn't figure out what the "service dogs" were doing for the
> owners.  He said he was confused because the dogs were wearing service dog
> vests and weren't doing anything to mitigate the person's disability.  I
> told him that many people get service dog vests off the Internet and pass
> them off as real service dogs. You don't have to prove a disability to buy
> these vests, either.  I told the guy that this was a real problem for us
> with our guide dogs and that these problems impact our own access problems
> with our guides.
>
> I occassionally encounter "emotional support" dogs on the bus who are very
> well behaved and the dogs are comfortable on the bus and out in public. 
> One
> even lay quietly under the same seat as Landon - Landon misbehaved because
> he really wanted to make a new friend!  If the dog is well behaved and
> socialized, then I don't object to their presence.
>
> Good luck with your new dogs!
>
> Linda and Landon
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mardi Hadfield" <wolfsinger.lakota at gmail.com>
> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 1:09 PM
> Subject: [nagdu] Small house, Big yard, I don't think PET is the right 
> word.
>
>
>> Hi every one,   Jen my house is not very big. @ bed rooms, 1 bath,
>> 1kitchen,
>> 1 living room.   The kitchen is small and I don't spend a lot of time in
>> it.
>> I cook , and wash dishes and that is it.   1 bed room is set up with my
>> fish
>> business. The other bed room is part storage room and has 3 dog crates
>> also
>> set up in there. I sleep , use the computer, watch TV and do almost every
>> thing else in the living room. It being the largest room has the bed/sofa
>> combo, 4 fish tanks , the computer , the TV , and several dog crates in
>> it.
>> This is also the hardest room to keep clean,so I have a house keeper that
>> comes every 2 weeks to help with that. Some times it is a bit crowded, 
>> but
>
>> I
>> don't mind as all this keeps me busy and that is what I need to keep
>> sane.I
>> am not one to just sit around. to me that is boring and depressing. I 
>> have
>
>> a
>> partner in the fish business and he does most of the tank cleaning . I do
>> the water changes, and the feeding. I can't see the baby fish, so Ben
>> separates them. I can see the adult guppies if I use my special 2 lenses
>> on
>> top of each other and get very close to them. If they are moving fast I
>> can't see them very well. Buddy, a pet does nothing except love it's
>> owner.
>> Most people don't even train their pets . I think that psyc. animals are
>> trained to do some things but not to the same level as a guide dog or a
>> mobility dog. I don't think they are the quite the same thing.   Have a
>> great day, Mardi
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