[nagdu] Impressions Please?

Mon Jul 27 20:08:13 UTC 2009

Joy, you're right to ask people to clean up after their dogs at your home. 
You weren't snooty - that woman was!

Marion, I think disabled people should be exempt from the pooper scooper 
laws for one reason only. that is, occasionally, one cannot find a trash bin 
to throw the poop into.You can't bring it on the bus!  Before I get jumped 
on (grin!) I think we ALL should either pick up after our dogs or have help 
in doing so. The only place I do not pick up is out in the country where 
bagged poop would be more of a hazard to wildlife than the poop itself.

Back in January, I was busted for violating the pooper scooper law when I 
picked up and then couldn't locate a trash bin.  Carrying around crap isn't 
always an option. People are very offended if I bring poop on the bus or 
into a store - IT STINKS!!  Especially Landon's poop because it is usually a 
bit on the soft side and that has much more of an odor than a hard stool. 
When I can't find a trash, I put the bagged poop off to the side, near a 
tree or bush so it doesn't get stepped in or rolled on by a car trying to 
park. If I am just walking down the street, I'll carry the poop until I find 
a trash can.

I look at the exemption as a "backup" in the event I can't fulfil the law. 
Sometimes getting help isn't an option when nobody is around to ask for help 
in locating a can.

You're right that so many people think we can't pick up after our own dogs - 
the cop who busted me thought that I couldn't possibly be blind because I 
knew which end of the dog the poop came out of!  The cop was a jerk to 
refuse to assist me in finding a trash can.  I agree that ALL service dog 
and guide dog users MUST pick up or be responsible in finding help in doing 
this task. I hate stepping in poop and I assume that most other people 
dispise this as well.

Linda and Landon

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marion & Martin" <swampfox1833 at verizon.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 4:44 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Impressions Please?

> Joy,
>    I believe, as I have already stated, that it is our social and legal 
> responsibility to pick up after our dogs. I have been accused of being a 
> little "snooty", too, but I also believe that, if a person cannot perform 
> the basic duties of caring for their dog, including picking up after it, 
> they should not have a dog!
>
> fraternally,
> Marion
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Joy Relton" <jrelton at verizon.net>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 8:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Impressions Please?
>
>
>> Thanks Mary. Sometimes I think that it is easy to become a little snooty
>> about what one can and should do and I don't want to expect from someone
>> what they can't do. Having said that, I think that there are ways to deal
>> with one's short comings. We all have them, but we all don't deal with 
>> them
>> in the best way. Also, I guess there are personalities. It just makes me
>> wonder what people think if someone from the public says "you shouldn't
>> leave that for someone else". Do they think having a right, gives them an
>> entitlement. Or, am I being too snobby?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Merry Schoch
>> Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 7:45 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Impressions Please?
>>
>>
>> Joy,
>>
>> I absolutely agree with you!!
>>
>> Merry
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Joy Relton" <jrelton at verizon.net>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 7:02 PM
>> Subject: [nagdu] Impressions Please?
>>
>>
>>>I recently held a barbeque in my home. Several of the people who
>>>attended  were members of the NFB but not personal friends. I was
>>>purposed at the  behavior of one of my guests who is a dog guide user
>>>and would appreciate  some input as to best handle the situation next
>>>time.
>>>
>>> The barbeque was open to persons in the Northern Virginia area,
>>> basically doesn't matter where the people came from, but, I indicated
>>> that dog guides were free to play free in the back yard which is
>>> fenced as long as they were
>>> supervised. In our back yard is a dog relieving area, since I happen to
>>> use
>>> a dog guide. Immediately adjacent to this area is a lined trash can 
>>> which
>>> was roll of bags for picking up after your dog attached to the handle. 
>>> My
>>> husband, who happens to be sighted escorted one of our guests with her 
>>> dog
>>> to his area. After her dog had relieved himself, my husband proceeded to
>>> show the user where the bags were located so that she could pick up 
>>> after
>>> the dog. The user's response was "oh, I don't do that!". I wasn't there,
>>> or
>>> I probably would have worded the directions differently, after all, I am
>>> the
>>> main "pooper scooper" of the house, since it is my dog who leaves the
>>> deposits. I personally feel that this particular guest was rude. I
>>> realize,
>>> that, when dogs are running free and playing it is difficult to know 
>>> where
>>> something might need to be picked up. I believe that it is particularly
>>> inappropriate for someone to assume, that someone else, especially if 
>>> they
>>> are sighted, should be the one to "do the dirty work". I believe that
>>> having
>>> a dog guide, a child or any other responsibility means, that you, have
>>> that
>>> responsibility and that you need to take the initiative to clean up 
>>> after
>>> your dog, child etc. It is inappropriate to assume that others should do
>>> this. Do other user agree with me? Am I totally in left field. I know 
>>> that
>>> people have differing abilities, but being unwilling to even attempt, to
>>> clean up after one's dog, seems particularly rude to me. Impressions,
>>> opinions, observations, suggestions? a
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