[nagdu] vet reports/was/Re: TSE and Guiding Eyes comparison

JULIE PHILLIPSON jbrew48 at verizon.net
Sun May 17 20:18:44 UTC 2009


I don't think comparing a living animal to a car is in any way appropriate 
here!

Julie Phillipson
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From: "Marion & Martin" <swampfox1833 at verizon.net>
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] vet reports/was/Re: TSE and Guiding Eyes comparison


> Jenine,
>    Any such information that is asked for on a voluntary basis would not 
> be considered either custodial or paternalistic, provided it was truly 
> voluntary and there were no repurcussions for not complying. For instance, 
> using my analogy of a car dealership, if Ford required that you submit 
> maintenance records as a condition of using a vehicle for which you paid 
> and owned as a condition of possession, no consumer in their right mind 
> would buy a Ford!
>
> Fraternally,
> Marion
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jenine Stanley" <jeninems at wowway.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
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> Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 10:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] vet reports/was/Re: TSE and Guiding Eyes comparison
>
>
>> Marion,
>>
>> Just a question, not a challenge. Do you consider being asked, not 
>> required
>> but asked, to submit health reports periodically a custodial or
>> paternalistic policy?  Would it be considered  such if the submission was
>> accompanied by an incentive such as discounts on flea and tick prevention
>> products, heartworm pills, etc.?
>>
>> Currently, this is GDF's policy, to request yearly health records. We 
>> give
>> each graduate a booklet to take to their vet. Each vet visit can be 
>> logged
>> and a copy sent to us. This, as Laurie noted, helps us track trends after
>> the dog has gone into the field.
>>
>> We are considering how we might collect this data more efficiently for 2
>> reasons.
>>
>> 1. People forget to send in their health records. It's just a fact, not a
>> judgment or condemnation. We would like to have those records in order to
>> improve our breeding program.
>>
>> 2. We would like to find a way that people can more easily submit the 
>> info,
>> i.e., electronically directly through your vet, etc. Right now you must
>> remember to take out one of the copies of the report, put it into an 
>> envelop
>> or fax it to us. Some people simply don't have access to sighted help for
>> such things if needed. Like it or not, it's a fact of life for folks.
>>
>> So, whether a school chooses to track dog health isn't anything more than 
>> a
>> measure of what it does overall to serve not only its grads but itself.
>>
>> Just my thoughts of course as part of the team working on how to improve 
>> our
>> system at GDF.
>>
>>
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