[nagdu] nagdu

Tue Feb 23 00:39:19 UTC 2010

With all due respect, Michelle, I must point something out regarding
your statement in a previous message to Jennifer. You said, in part,
"Just tell them that even though you can get around with a cane, a dog
would be an additional aid for you, as the dog can see where it's
going and can respond to situations and obstacles quicker than your
cane can!" Yes, a dog can see where it's going, but I'm not sure I'd
base getting a dog on this fact. Let's take the idea of a dog guiding
around obsticles further, since die heart cane users will tell you
that they have no trouble in getting around obsticles either. Let's
say that you live in a large town or city and that there are some
hybrid or quiet cars around in your area. You can't hear the cars with
your ears alone, but a dog can see the car and make appropriate
adjustments. Granted this is just one area and it shouldn't be the
basis for getting a guide dog either, but it's definitely a real
example and possibility these days. That was one of my concerns when I
was considering the guide dog and why I got one. Also, today's traffic
conditions are a lot more troublesome for the pedestrian, drivers are
more aggressive, and you may not detect that car that's zipping
through the light until it's too late. The various guide dog schools
and organizations like the NFB are doing their part to help fix these
situations, but they are very real situations that can happen to
anyone, sighted or blind, dog or cane user, no matter what the NFB and
guide dog schools do or don't do. It's where we live today. If you're
in a rural area, you may not have to worry about high traffic
conditions, but sooner or later the quiet/hybrid cars are going to
find their way into the country as well. And at times like those, I
want a guide dog by my side.

Thoughtfully,
Wayne

On 2/22/10, Michelle <m-johnson at bigpond.com> wrote:
> Just keep hanging in there, some people don't like dogs but if they can't
> respect that you like them, to be be nice without being offensive I'd like
> to say that maybe they might need to learn how to be more respectful towards
> you in this situation. Sorry, no offence intended here.
>
> I'm sure you'll do very well with your future dog!
>
> Michelle
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jennifer L Finley" <jenniferfinley at embarqmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 5:21 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] nagdu
>
>
>> ya, it is so crazy because when I talk about the dog, they say nothing.
>> It's like they don't want to hear about it.  Well I have got nues for them
>> they better get use to it because I am going to keep talking about it.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Michelle" <m-johnson at bigpond.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 11:57 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] nagdu
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> My parents have always supported me in getting a guide dog since I was
>>> little. They've always told me to wait until I'm old enough to look after
>>> a dog, and so long as I look after it properly, they'd be all for me
>>> getting a dog. So now I've got one! I hope your parents change their
>>> minds
>>> soon.
>>>
>>> Just tell them that even though you can get around with a cane, a dog
>>> would be an additional aid for you, as the dog can see where it's going
>>> and can respond to situations and obstacles quicker than your cane can!
>>> If
>>> they say anything like "Yeah but you know the dog makes mistakes too",
>>> tell them, "so do other people when they're guiding me. What's the
>>> difference?" Now, the worst case scenario might be that your parents tell
>>> you that the dog can't help you if you get hurt and some talk like that.
>>> So, just tell them that it's true, but other people can help, and you'll
>>> learn how to control your dog in those situations. Just keep talking
>>> about
>>> the positives about getting a guide dog, not the negatives. Because by
>>> the
>>> time you get it, if they're sensible (sorry, I don't mean that in a bad
>>> way), then they'll get to realise how beneficial the dog is to you, and
>>> anything that negative that might happen will be dealt with better in
>>> most
>>> cases. Just talk to one of the guide dog schools about this problem, they
>>> should be able to help you! They're good with assisting people through
>>> these family situations, and they'll teach you how to cope with this
>>> issue, and maybe your parents will accept that their experience will
>>> ensure your safety. Hopefully your parents realise that if someone is
>>> there to help you, then your parents will feel that they don't have to
>>> worry so much about you and how you'll handle a dog.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Michelle
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 7:58 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] nagdu
>>>
>>>
>>>> Jennifer,
>>>> I am also new to this list. I am also attempting to convince my parents
>>>> that
>>>> a guide dog will be a useful and necessary addition to the mobility
>>>> toolbox.
>>>> I am 18 years old and I am a junior in high school. So I still have a
>>>> few
>>>> years before I can move out. I would be interested in sharing notes with
>>>> you
>>>> about the quest to convince the parents. Good luck.
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>> SKYPE: mark.cadigan
>>>> AIM: mcperkins22car
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Jennifer L Finley" <jenniferfinley at embarqmail.com>
>>>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 2:56 PM
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] nagdu
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi this is Jennifer, I just wanted to know if anyone has had parents
>>>>> that
>>>>> do not agree with them getting a guide dog.  If you have, please let me
>>>>> know how to talk to them about it.
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