[nagdu] FW: "Crazy Blind Guy" sees his way to fitness

Sat May 1 01:32:02 UTC 2010

You know what really bugs me, too, is that the material doesn't appear to be
very accessible to blind people. Wouldn't you think he'd do the stuff in
something other than videos to help his other blind people who might be
dealing with similar situations? Shoot, if I was going to do something like
that I'd want to make sure it was accessible especially since he had to
overcome some issues himself. The whole thing doesn't sit very well but I
keep wondering if there's something missing so I thought maybe since he
appears to be a dog user somebody might know him. Maybe he doesn't know how
terrible the promoter is since he might not be able to hear the blurb, who
knows! 

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Tamara Smith-Kinney
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 10:47 AM
To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
Subject: Re: [nagdu] FW: "Crazy Blind Guy" sees his way to fitness

Good points there, actually.  Since we've all gotten told how amazing we are
for being able to tie our own shoes or walk between our bedroom and the
bathroom in our homes all by ourselves, I think we tend to notice
patronization and condescension from a mile away.

Honestly, though, walking through an environment like a gym -- even when you
can use sound cues for navigation but where there are lots of people,
sounds, echoes, and heavy weights lying on the floor -- is fairly
challenging when you can't see all the things going on or moving around or
lying in your way.  Not being able to hear sound cues, even confusing one,
at all would add significantly to the challenge, or so I can only imagine.

So in that respect for the guy to walk from the door to the equipment he
wants to use is more of an accomplishment than it would be for someone who
isn't missing any super-helpful sensory information.

Still!  Shut up about it already!  Yeah, guy does great stuff going around
the gym, it's harder for him than most of the people in that environment.
Rah him!

Losing significant weight and gaining fitness in the process -- that's at
least as challenging, no matter which senses you do or don't have!

But it's true that if the guy is willing to accept that style of prmotion,
it's his decision.  Which doesn't mean that for me, at a gut level, my hair
stands on end reading the thing.  /grin/

Tami Smith-Kinney

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:47 AM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] FW: "Crazy Blind Guy" sees his way to fitness

The overweight guy may be totally okay with being used in this manner.
Let's not forget that. I found the article and the fitness guy off-putting,
hence I'll ignore him. Let's not forget though, all are adults here. The
overweight guy may be totally okay and on board with this. If he isn't, he
can probably sue for some kind of legal compensation, maybe that his image
was used for exploitation? I don't know, one of our lawyers will need to
weigh in. 

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Tamara Smith-Kinney
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 12:45 PM
To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
Subject: Re: [nagdu] FW: "Crazy Blind Guy" sees his way to fitness

Bryan,

Well, that was more or less my impression, too.  The writer wasn't promoting
the guy he was talking about but himself.  I find that sort of individual
offputting to say the least!

Tami Smith-Kinney

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Bryan Brown
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 6:03 AM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] FW: "Crazy Blind Guy" sees his way to fitness

Yep, I'm glad this guy has decided to get fit too, but this personal fitness

trainer is kind of a shmuck and I think he's got a touch of martyr's
syndrome. He starts the first video by saying, "I don't make a penny off of
this" and then he goes on to tell you about this blind gentleman buying
every book he has ever written. Additionally when you try to exit the web
site, "well, there's a sales pitch" the article itself is kind of offensive
and I'm not sure how any one can keep such a full of them selves attitude
while trying to give credit to someone else,,, kind of like "look at how

inspiring this guy is, and yep, it's because of me!"

If the Seeing Eye gets some cash out of this, "well" good for them. I only
hope it's donated anonymously.

Oh, and here's one more thing that ticks me off, this trainer said that it
took him days to copy and paste a .pdf file into a .doc file. I think he's
got to get a little real, learn how to hit "control A" "control C and
"control V" and work on getting his ego down a few pounds.

But that's just my opinion, I hope this didn't offend anyone.

    thanks,
    Bryan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Margo and Arrow" <margo.downey at verizon.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 5:24 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] FW: "Crazy Blind Guy" sees his way to fitness

> Well, I'm glad he's becoming physically fit, but, oh, my, I do not
like 
> the article and I hope Seeing eye doesn't take the donations.
>
> Margo and Arrow
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Charlene Ota" <caota at hawaii.rr.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
Users'" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 11:44 PM
> Subject: [nagdu] FW: "Crazy Blind Guy" sees his way to fitness
>
>
>> This was sent to me today, and I'm forwarding this to the list partly
to 
>> see
>> what others think about the whole thing and partly because
ultimately, if
>> you read the message and follow the link and view the video, when
this
>> fitness material is sold a percentage goes to The Seeing Eye. This
has
>> nothing to do with The Seeing Eye per se, it's the creator of the
video 
>> who
>> has decided to donate to The Seeing Eye.  Looking at the way this
thing 
>> is
>> promoted, I just feel like we've still got a ways to go in some ways
and 
>> I
>> wonder if anyone has thought to make this person's videos audio
described
>> and make the materials accessible. This just shows how slowly
peopole's 
>> view
>> of us changes or almost stands still
>>
>> Maybe someone on the list knows the person that this whole story is
about
>> and could give some insight. I guess that's part of why I'm sharing
it.
>>
>> Check it out and see what you all think about it. I've removed most
all 
>> of
>> the unnecessary stuff from the following message just to make it
easier 
>> to
>> get to the point.
>> .
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> Subject: "Crazy Blind Guy" sees his way to fitness
>>
>> It's rare that I'm moved and inspired at the same time by something I
see

>> on
>> the internet.
>>
>> But today I have an exception for you.
>>
>> Let me briefly prepare you for what you're about to see and hear.
>>
>> I say "see" and "hear" with all due respect because the man who put
this
>> wild fatloss and fitness system together cannot do either.
>>
>> He is totally blind and almost totally deaf.
>>
>> So he made this presentation with the help of one of my friends in
the
>> fitness world (my good buddy Jon Benson) who doesn't take a penny
(nor 
>> will
>> he ever) from helping this extraordinary new fitness role model.
>>
>> I wanted to do my part, too... but believe me, I'm not just helping a

>> blind
>> guy out here. I'm sharing a true gem with you if you want to take
your 
>> body
>> and your motivation to the next level.
>>
>> Imagine this:
>>
>> Being totally blind and overweight. Yet wanting to be fit.
>>
>> Now, really picture it:  You cannot see, so going to a gym is...
well...
>> almost impossible (or so you may think... this guy figured it out...
) 
>> You
>> trip over weights other people leave on the floor. You cannot tell if
>> someone is using that machine (you know, the one you had to count
steps 
>> to
>> from the gym door in order to find?) until you practically sit on
them.
>>
>> Get the picture?
>>
>> And what about eating right?  How do you measure everything? How do
you 
>> know
>> if you're buying the right brand of, say, chicken breast? Is this
chicken
>> with or without skin?
>>
>> You see how tricky this is?
>>
>> And yet, Mike figured out how to do it.
>>
>> More than that -- he dumped over 40 lbs of blubber and put on muscle
>> shape... and now he looks like a different person.
>>
>> My friend Jon tells the motivational story about this blind gentleman
and
>> his fitness story here:
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/blindanddeaf  <----Check it out
>>
>>
>> You may be thinking... "Okay, so how can a blind guy's program help
me?"
>>
>> I thought the same thing until I checked it out.
>>
>> You see, A LOT of the fitness challenges we ALL face (sighted or not)
go
>> unseen (pardon my expression!)  We just can't seem to figure out
"why" we
>> cannot get or stay fit... and the real reason for this is that we
cannot 
>> see
>> the REAL problem.
>>
>> My new friend, Mike Weingarden, is just your typical guy... except
he's
>> blind (totally) and almost deaf. But he was forced to dig a LOT
deeper 
>> than
>> most of us due to his physical challenges in order to figure out how
to 
>> shed
>> bodyfat, shape-up his body with lean muscle, and stay
super-motivated.
>>
>> Doing this allowed him to discover the REAL challenges... and the
>> solutions... to changing anyone's body.
>>
>> I'm telling you, this guy has put together a System that is just
unreal.
>>
>> It's not a "nice-to-have"... it's a must-have. Not just for the 
>> inspiration
>> (and who wouldn't be inspired by this man!)... but for the 80 (yes, 
>> eighty)
>> training and nutrition videos Mike shot during his journey. He shows
you 
>> how
>> to perform just about every exercise you'll ever need. He goes over
>> nutrition, inspiration, in-home workouts... and so much more.
>>
>> The videos themselves are worth a small fortune... but Mike is not a 
>> greedy
>> guy. He's practically giving this away just to get his foot in the
door 
>> of
>> the fitness world. And, in his own words, "Just to prove a point...
that 
>> if
>> I can do it, anyone can... no exceptions."
>>
>> Here's the full story...
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/blindanddeaf
>>
>> Go get inspired... and get into your best shape ever.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Mike Geary
>> Certified Personal Trainer
>> Certified Nutrition Specialist
>>
>>
>> P.S.  Let me be honest with you:  Mike is far from a rich guy. Just
the
>> opposite. Due to his physical challenges, he can barely make ends
meet. 
>> But
>> he came through and put together an an incredible program here.
>>
>> So yeah... of course. I wanted to help Mike by sharing this System
with 
>> you
>> asap... but there's more to the story.
>>
>> Mike is giving 10% of his earnings to a charity for the blind. So you

>> will
>> not just be helping yourself get fit (and yes, helping Mike out too)
but
>> also helping some people who cannot see regain some of their personal
>> freedom.
>>
>> His charity is really cool. It's covered in the presentation on this 
>> page...
>> as is his See Yourself Fit System, including his 80-plus digital 
>> videos...
>>
>> Go on over and check it out:
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/blindanddeaf
>>
>>
>>
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