[nagdu] FW: "Crazy Blind Guy" sees his way to fitness

Margo and Arrow margo.downey at verizon.net
Sat May 1 04:01:45 UTC 2010


I thought about those things, too.

Well, perhaps he doesn't know about described videos.

I hope the guy hasn't unwittingly been exploited somehow.

margo and Arrow----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charlene Ota" <caota at hawaii.rr.com>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] FW: "Crazy Blind Guy" sees his way to fitness


> You know what really bugs me, too, is that the material doesn't appear to 
> be
> very accessible to blind people. Wouldn't you think he'd do the stuff in
> something other than videos to help his other blind people who might be
> dealing with similar situations? Shoot, if I was going to do something 
> like
> that I'd want to make sure it was accessible especially since he had to
> overcome some issues himself. The whole thing doesn't sit very well but I
> keep wondering if there's something missing so I thought maybe since he
> appears to be a dog user somebody might know him. Maybe he doesn't know 
> how
> terrible the promoter is since he might not be able to hear the blurb, who
> knows!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Tamara Smith-Kinney
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 10:47 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] FW: "Crazy Blind Guy" sees his way to fitness
>
> Good points there, actually.  Since we've all gotten told how amazing we 
> are
> for being able to tie our own shoes or walk between our bedroom and the
> bathroom in our homes all by ourselves, I think we tend to notice
> patronization and condescension from a mile away.
>
> Honestly, though, walking through an environment like a gym -- even when 
> you
> can use sound cues for navigation but where there are lots of people,
> sounds, echoes, and heavy weights lying on the floor -- is fairly
> challenging when you can't see all the things going on or moving around or
> lying in your way.  Not being able to hear sound cues, even confusing one,
> at all would add significantly to the challenge, or so I can only imagine.
>
> So in that respect for the guy to walk from the door to the equipment he
> wants to use is more of an accomplishment than it would be for someone who
> isn't missing any super-helpful sensory information.
>
> Still!  Shut up about it already!  Yeah, guy does great stuff going around
> the gym, it's harder for him than most of the people in that environment.
> Rah him!
>
> Losing significant weight and gaining fitness in the process -- that's at
> least as challenging, no matter which senses you do or don't have!
>
> But it's true that if the guy is willing to accept that style of prmotion,
> it's his decision.  Which doesn't mean that for me, at a gut level, my 
> hair
> stands on end reading the thing.  /grin/
>
> Tami Smith-Kinney
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:47 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] FW: "Crazy Blind Guy" sees his way to fitness
>
> The overweight guy may be totally okay with being used in this manner.
> Let's not forget that. I found the article and the fitness guy 
> off-putting,
> hence I'll ignore him. Let's not forget though, all are adults here. The
> overweight guy may be totally okay and on board with this. If he isn't, he
> can probably sue for some kind of legal compensation, maybe that his image
> was used for exploitation? I don't know, one of our lawyers will need to
> weigh in.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Tamara Smith-Kinney
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 12:45 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] FW: "Crazy Blind Guy" sees his way to fitness
>
> Bryan,
>
> Well, that was more or less my impression, too.  The writer wasn't 
> promoting
> the guy he was talking about but himself.  I find that sort of individual
> offputting to say the least!
>
> Tami Smith-Kinney
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Bryan Brown
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 6:03 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] FW: "Crazy Blind Guy" sees his way to fitness
>
> Yep, I'm glad this guy has decided to get fit too, but this personal 
> fitness
>
> trainer is kind of a shmuck and I think he's got a touch of martyr's
> syndrome. He starts the first video by saying, "I don't make a penny off 
> of
> this" and then he goes on to tell you about this blind gentleman buying
> every book he has ever written. Additionally when you try to exit the web
> site, "well, there's a sales pitch" the article itself is kind of 
> offensive
> and I'm not sure how any one can keep such a full of them selves attitude
> while trying to give credit to someone else,,, kind of like "look at how
>
> inspiring this guy is, and yep, it's because of me!"
>
> If the Seeing Eye gets some cash out of this, "well" good for them. I only
> hope it's donated anonymously.
>
> Oh, and here's one more thing that ticks me off, this trainer said that it
> took him days to copy and paste a .pdf file into a .doc file. I think he's
> got to get a little real, learn how to hit "control A" "control C and
> "control V" and work on getting his ego down a few pounds.
>
> But that's just my opinion, I hope this didn't offend anyone.
>
>    thanks,
>    Bryan
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Margo and Arrow" <margo.downey at verizon.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 5:24 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] FW: "Crazy Blind Guy" sees his way to fitness
>
>
>> Well, I'm glad he's becoming physically fit, but, oh, my, I do not
> like
>> the article and I hope Seeing eye doesn't take the donations.
>>
>> Margo and Arrow
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Charlene Ota" <caota at hawaii.rr.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users'"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 11:44 PM
>> Subject: [nagdu] FW: "Crazy Blind Guy" sees his way to fitness
>>
>>
>>> This was sent to me today, and I'm forwarding this to the list partly
> to
>>> see
>>> what others think about the whole thing and partly because
> ultimately, if
>>> you read the message and follow the link and view the video, when
> this
>>> fitness material is sold a percentage goes to The Seeing Eye. This
> has
>>> nothing to do with The Seeing Eye per se, it's the creator of the
> video
>>> who
>>> has decided to donate to The Seeing Eye.  Looking at the way this
> thing
>>> is
>>> promoted, I just feel like we've still got a ways to go in some ways
> and
>>> I
>>> wonder if anyone has thought to make this person's videos audio
> described
>>> and make the materials accessible. This just shows how slowly
> peopole's
>>> view
>>> of us changes or almost stands still
>>>
>>> Maybe someone on the list knows the person that this whole story is
> about
>>> and could give some insight. I guess that's part of why I'm sharing
> it.
>>>
>>> Check it out and see what you all think about it. I've removed most
> all
>>> of
>>> the unnecessary stuff from the following message just to make it
> easier
>>> to
>>> get to the point.
>>> .
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> Subject: "Crazy Blind Guy" sees his way to fitness
>>>
>>> It's rare that I'm moved and inspired at the same time by something I
> see
>
>>> on
>>> the internet.
>>>
>>> But today I have an exception for you.
>>>
>>> Let me briefly prepare you for what you're about to see and hear.
>>>
>>> I say "see" and "hear" with all due respect because the man who put
> this
>>> wild fatloss and fitness system together cannot do either.
>>>
>>> He is totally blind and almost totally deaf.
>>>
>>> So he made this presentation with the help of one of my friends in
> the
>>> fitness world (my good buddy Jon Benson) who doesn't take a penny
> (nor
>>> will
>>> he ever) from helping this extraordinary new fitness role model.
>>>
>>> I wanted to do my part, too... but believe me, I'm not just helping a
>
>>> blind
>>> guy out here. I'm sharing a true gem with you if you want to take
> your
>>> body
>>> and your motivation to the next level.
>>>
>>> Imagine this:
>>>
>>> Being totally blind and overweight. Yet wanting to be fit.
>>>
>>> Now, really picture it:  You cannot see, so going to a gym is...
> well...
>>> almost impossible (or so you may think... this guy figured it out...
> )
>>> You
>>> trip over weights other people leave on the floor. You cannot tell if
>>> someone is using that machine (you know, the one you had to count
> steps
>>> to
>>> from the gym door in order to find?) until you practically sit on
> them.
>>>
>>> Get the picture?
>>>
>>> And what about eating right?  How do you measure everything? How do
> you
>>> know
>>> if you're buying the right brand of, say, chicken breast? Is this
> chicken
>>> with or without skin?
>>>
>>> You see how tricky this is?
>>>
>>> And yet, Mike figured out how to do it.
>>>
>>> More than that -- he dumped over 40 lbs of blubber and put on muscle
>>> shape... and now he looks like a different person.
>>>
>>> My friend Jon tells the motivational story about this blind gentleman
> and
>>> his fitness story here:
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/blindanddeaf  <----Check it out
>>>
>>>
>>> You may be thinking... "Okay, so how can a blind guy's program help
> me?"
>>>
>>> I thought the same thing until I checked it out.
>>>
>>> You see, A LOT of the fitness challenges we ALL face (sighted or not)
> go
>>> unseen (pardon my expression!)  We just can't seem to figure out
> "why" we
>>> cannot get or stay fit... and the real reason for this is that we
> cannot
>>> see
>>> the REAL problem.
>>>
>>> My new friend, Mike Weingarden, is just your typical guy... except
> he's
>>> blind (totally) and almost deaf. But he was forced to dig a LOT
> deeper
>>> than
>>> most of us due to his physical challenges in order to figure out how
> to
>>> shed
>>> bodyfat, shape-up his body with lean muscle, and stay
> super-motivated.
>>>
>>> Doing this allowed him to discover the REAL challenges... and the
>>> solutions... to changing anyone's body.
>>>
>>> I'm telling you, this guy has put together a System that is just
> unreal.
>>>
>>> It's not a "nice-to-have"... it's a must-have. Not just for the
>>> inspiration
>>> (and who wouldn't be inspired by this man!)... but for the 80 (yes,
>>> eighty)
>>> training and nutrition videos Mike shot during his journey. He shows
> you
>>> how
>>> to perform just about every exercise you'll ever need. He goes over
>>> nutrition, inspiration, in-home workouts... and so much more.
>>>
>>> The videos themselves are worth a small fortune... but Mike is not a
>>> greedy
>>> guy. He's practically giving this away just to get his foot in the
> door
>>> of
>>> the fitness world. And, in his own words, "Just to prove a point...
> that
>>> if
>>> I can do it, anyone can... no exceptions."
>>>
>>> Here's the full story...
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/blindanddeaf
>>>
>>> Go get inspired... and get into your best shape ever.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Mike Geary
>>> Certified Personal Trainer
>>> Certified Nutrition Specialist
>>>
>>>
>>> P.S.  Let me be honest with you:  Mike is far from a rich guy. Just
> the
>>> opposite. Due to his physical challenges, he can barely make ends
> meet.
>>> But
>>> he came through and put together an an incredible program here.
>>>
>>> So yeah... of course. I wanted to help Mike by sharing this System
> with
>>> you
>>> asap... but there's more to the story.
>>>
>>> Mike is giving 10% of his earnings to a charity for the blind. So you
>
>>> will
>>> not just be helping yourself get fit (and yes, helping Mike out too)
> but
>>> also helping some people who cannot see regain some of their personal
>>> freedom.
>>>
>>> His charity is really cool. It's covered in the presentation on this
>>> page...
>>> as is his See Yourself Fit System, including his 80-plus digital
>>> videos...
>>>
>>> Go on over and check it out:
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/blindanddeaf
>>>
>>>
>>>
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