[nagdu] rejected by the lions club?

[Albert J Rizzi]

You can do this. how much does it take initially to get this off the ground
in most instances. I could reach out to my club and ask my president to put
us in touch with rosemary's club to educate them or perhaps find one of the
lions clubs rather then the lionesses if you prefer.

Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
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-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Jessica Pitzer
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 4:52 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] rejected by teh lions club?

I live in washington and just looked up the laws and it doesn't say he
has to be trained by a school. I believe I can do this, and I will do
this. I have the support of my family and several friends and it seems
your guys support.
Jessica

On 5/2/10, Julie J <julielj at windstream.net> wrote:
> Jessica,
>
> Unfortunately you have just experienced lesson 1 in owner training.  It's
> not called owner training for nothing.
>
> This list and a few others that I have found are pretty welcoming and
> inclusive of owner trainers.  this is not the societal norm though. It's
why
> I stick around here and then people even thought enough of me to invite me
> to be moderator! *smile*
>
> It is very hard to develop a support system to be able to owner train
> successfully.  I rely a lot on other owner trainers for help with working
> through specific training issues.  If I do get help from a pet dog
trainer,
> friend or family I have to be very, very specific with what I need.    If
I
> ask my son and friends to ride their bikes  around the block in a specific
> direction and to not move out of the way for me, but to please say hello
> when they get 20 feet away, I will get cooperation.  If I ask a friend to
> help me train my guide dog, they will be overwhelmed, stressed and
anxious.
> Ask very specifically for what you exactly need at that moment.
>
> As for the legal issue...there are, at my last knowledge still a few
states
> that only recognize guide dogs from specific programs.  Tennessee comes to
> mind.  However since the Federal ADA supercedes the state laws you are
still
> entirely legal to work your owner trained guide there.  the laws regarding
> dogs in training vary widely from state to state.  What state do you live
> in, perhaps we can help you locate your particular laws.
>
> All that said, part of that email is correct.  Training your own guide is
a
> lot of work and if done incorrectly can result in injury.  I don't want to
> gloss that part over.  It's important to know.
>
> I'm sorry you were subjected to the harsh reality of what a lot of people
> think about blind people training their own guides.  It's very
discouraging.
> But I suppose it's just like anything else blind people were told we can't
> do...teach O&M, be Governor, climb Mt. Everest, be a doctor,...it takes
> blind people who are willing to deal with the lack of support and still
> remain confident in their own abilities to change those societal beliefs.
>
> You are always welcome to email me privately.  If there's anything I can
do,
> I'm happy to do so.
>
> Julie
>
>
>
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