[nagdu] owner training

Charlene Ota caota at hawaii.rr.com
Mon May 3 06:38:50 UTC 2010 

Good grief, Jessica!! I think at that point I'd have tuned her over as well!
Good you had the sense to get out while the getting was good! My first dog
was wild and crazy and I didn't know enough to tell the trainers to forget
it. I took her home for a ocuple of months but she started growling at me so
I told the trainer to come get her. So he was the lucky one to get bitten,
not me! All in all, I'm sorry that had to happen to you. It's so much work
and such a time-consuming thing to have to train your own dog and for me
personally, I wouldn't even know where to start with that sort of project. I
wish you all the best!

Charlene

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Jessica Pitzer
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 3:45 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] owner training

I did, and pepsi proceeded to bite a trainer, so I  handed her over and came
home, I can't have a dog who is going to bite people, but now i have my
sweet, silly poodle, and he's great.

On 5/2/10, Charlene Ota <caota at hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
> Hi, Jessica, I hope you don't mind my asking as I'm just curious what 
> happened. If I'm not mistaken, are you the one who just recently went 
> for a new dog named Pepsi? Just was wondering what happened. Maybe I 
> missed something somewhere along the way. Also, if I'm mixing up 
> people, please accept my appology!  (smile!)
>
> Charlene
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Jessica Pitzer
> Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 1:35 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] owner training
>
> I'm wondering where you specifically found yoru poodle as I'm 
> considering a poodle. Thanks. Jessica
>
> On 4/11/10, Tamara Smith-Kinney <tamara.8024 at comcast.net> wrote:
>> Jessica,
>>
>> I apologize for not getting back to you directly for so long about 
>> your questions.  I was working on my own reply along the lines of 
>> what both Rox and Julie said, but I got overly long-winded and it was 
>> late, so I was stupid... /smile/  Also, I can usually be pretty 
>> confident that the both of them will answer questions about 
>> owner-trainer very well while I'm still trying to figure out what to 
>> say.  /grin/
>>
>> Anyway, by now you've gotten some great information about the dog 
>> selection part and some of idea of what your life will be like once 
>> you do find that elusive right dog.  If you think that all sounds 
>> absolutely dreaful, it might be time for you to reconsider 
>> owner-trainer.  If you found yourself thinking that you just can't 
>> wait to get to all the hard work and frustration and exhaustion and 
>> more,
> then owner-training could be for you!
>> /smile/  The most telling key trait of the successful owner-trainers 
>> I know is that they *love* it.  They don't fall into bed dead asleep 
>> at night to dream dog training then drag their still weary bodies out 
>> the next morning to start it all again because of their dedication to 
>> duty and
> diligence.
>> They do it because they can't wait to get going again for another 
>> day, because they just are enjoying the process, even the parts that 
>> make strong men go pale.  /smile/
>>
>>   I will add that it really helps to inform yourself to the nth 
>> degree about the ins and outs of temperament testing, temperament 
>> requirements for guide dogs, given the nature of their work, etc., 
>> etc.  I have my list of internet resources buried deep somewhere in 
>> the bowels of my computer archives, but there is a lot of new stuff 
>> coming out all the time that you should be able to find easily.  Same 
>> with books, and honestly I've been reading books about dogs and 
>> animals for so many years, I think I started doing my study before I 
>> could actually read the books myself.  /smile/  If you want to get 
>> some good ideas about books to read on the subject, this list is a 
>> good place to ask!  I don't have a current reading list myself, I'm 
>> afraid, but as I get more reading worked back into my life, I will be
> asking those questions myself.
>>
>> Another resource is the vi-clicker-training list, 
>> vi-clicker-trainers at freelists.org.  Ann Edie is the list owner, I
believe.
>> I'm afraid I've been lax about keeping up there, but she can tell you 
>> more about it.
>>
>> As for equipment:  Pawpower Creations, of course!  Julie started the 
>> harness making business a few years ago as On-The-Go, and everything 
>> I have for Mitzi is from her.  Great gear!  Rox and her husband have 
>> since taken on the harness making, so my new purchases will be from 
>> Pawpower.  The harnesses are not only very good but very affordable, 
>> and Pawpower is good to work with.
>>
>> I still have odds and ends floating around from Mitzi's pre-harness 
>> days, and if you want to discuss more about pre-harness training, I 
>> will be happy to tell you what I did and used.  Usually that depends 
>> on what you find in your area that you can afford and still feed the 
>> dog.  /smile/
>>
>> Anyway, that's all I can think of right now that might be helpful.
>>
>> I am interested to know what you learn and what you decide about 
>> owner-training.
>>
>> Tami Smith-Kinney
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Jessica Pitzer
>> Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 2:13 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: [nagdu] owner training
>>
>> Hello,
>> I've thought about not saying I'm going to do it, but I've thought 
>> about owner training.
>> I obviously have no idea how to do this, I mean I  have had dogs all 
>> my life and have trained them to sit stay come heel down paw, etc. 
>> but how didy ou train your guides, how did you select them and where 
>> did you get them from, and where did you get equipment.
>> Thanks.
>> Jessica
>>
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