[nagdu] owner training

Tamara Smith-Kinney tamara.8024 at comcast.net
Mon May 3 18:02:22 UTC 2010 

Woohoo!  More poodles on the list!  I've been warning Mitzi she won't be
able to fool me any more by just trying to convince me "it's a poodle
thing."  She'd better watch out now.  /grin/

Have fun!

Tami Smith-Kinney

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of GARY STEEVES
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 8:03 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] owner training


Hi Jessica:

I think i missed part of your thread but do i understand that you have a
puppy poodle and are going to owner train? If so, that is great. I'm off to
my school tomorrow, Monday, to begin the process of getting my first dog and
it will be a poodle as well. The more poodle handlers around the better
(well better for me to share info with anyways.)

For those who might be interested I'm going to try and do a blog while I'm
in the program at Guide Dogs Canada.  if i did this right, the address is:
www.garysdogblog.blogspot.com

Let the adventure  begin. :)

Gary

----- Original Message -----
From: Jessica Pitzer <rolosgirl at gmail.com>
Date: Sunday, May 2, 2010 6:45 pm
Subject: Re: [nagdu] owner training
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>

> I did, and pepsi proceeded to bite a trainer, so I  handed 
> her over
> and came home, I can't have a dog who is going to bite people, 
> but now
> i have my sweet, silly poodle, and he's great.
> 
> On 5/2/10, Charlene Ota <caota at hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
> > Hi, Jessica, I hope you don't mind my asking as I'm just 
> curious what
> > happened. If I'm not mistaken, are you the one who just 
> recently went for a
> > new dog named Pepsi? Just was wondering what happened. Maybe I 
> missed> something somewhere along the way. Also, if I'm mixing 
> up people, please
> > accept my appology!  (smile!)
> >
> > Charlene
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-
> bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> > Of Jessica Pitzer
> > Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 1:35 PM
> > To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] owner training
> >
> > I'm wondering where you specifically found yoru poodle as I'm 
> considering a
> > poodle. Thanks. Jessica
> >
> > On 4/11/10, Tamara Smith-Kinney <tamara.8024 at comcast.net> wrote:
> >> Jessica,
> >>
> >> I apologize for not getting back to you directly for so long about
> >> your questions.  I was working on my own reply along the 
> lines of what
> >> both Rox and Julie said, but I got overly long-winded and it 
> was late,
> >> so I was stupid... /smile/  Also, I can usually be 
> pretty confident
> >> that the both of them will answer questions about owner-
> trainer very
> >> well while I'm still trying to figure out what to say.  /grin/
> >>
> >> Anyway, by now you've gotten some great information about the dog
> >> selection part and some of idea of what your life will be 
> like once
> >> you do find that elusive right dog.  If you think that 
> all sounds
> >> absolutely dreaful, it might be time for you to reconsider
> >> owner-trainer.  If you found yourself thinking that you 
> just can't
> >> wait to get to all the hard work and frustration and 
> exhaustion and more,
> > then owner-training could be for you!
> >> /smile/  The most telling key trait of the successful 
> owner-trainers I
> >> know is that they *love* it.  They don't fall into bed 
> dead asleep at
> >> night to dream dog training then drag their still weary 
> bodies out the
> >> next morning to start it all again because of their 
> dedication to duty and
> > diligence.
> >> They do it because they can't wait to get going again for 
> another day,
> >> because they just are enjoying the process, even the parts 
> that make
> >> strong men go pale.  /smile/
> >>
> >>   I will add that it really helps to inform 
> yourself to the nth degree
> >> about the ins and outs of temperament testing, temperament
> >> requirements for guide dogs, given the nature of their work, etc.,
> >> etc.  I have my list of internet resources buried deep 
> somewhere in
> >> the bowels of my computer archives, but there is a lot of new stuff
> >> coming out all the time that you should be able to find 
> easily.  Same
> >> with books, and honestly I've been reading books about dogs and
> >> animals for so many years, I think I started doing my study 
> before I
> >> could actually read the books myself.  /smile/  If 
> you want to get
> >> some good ideas about books to read on the subject, this list 
> is a
> >> good place to ask!  I don't have a current reading list 
> myself, I'm
> >> afraid, but as I get more reading worked back into my life, I 
> will be
> > asking those questions myself.
> >>
> >> Another resource is the vi-clicker-training list,
> >> vi-clicker-trainers at freelists.org.  Ann Edie is the list 
> owner, I believe.
> >> I'm afraid I've been lax about keeping up there, but she can 
> tell you
> >> more about it.
> >>
> >> As for equipment:  Pawpower Creations, of course!  
> Julie started the
> >> harness making business a few years ago as On-The-Go, and 
> everything I
> >> have for Mitzi is from her.  Great gear!  Rox and 
> her husband have
> >> since taken on the harness making, so my new purchases will 
> be from
> >> Pawpower.  The harnesses are not only very good but very 
> affordable,>> and Pawpower is good to work with.
> >>
> >> I still have odds and ends floating around from Mitzi's pre-harness
> >> days, and if you want to discuss more about pre-harness 
> training, I
> >> will be happy to tell you what I did and used.  Usually 
> that depends
> >> on what you find in your area that you can afford and still 
> feed the
> >> dog.  /smile/
> >>
> >> Anyway, that's all I can think of right now that might be helpful.
> >>
> >> I am interested to know what you learn and what you decide about
> >> owner-training.
> >>
> >> Tami Smith-Kinney
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-
> bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> >> Behalf Of Jessica Pitzer
> >> Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 2:13 PM
> >> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> >> Subject: [nagdu] owner training
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >> I've thought about not saying I'm going to do it, but I've thought
> >> about owner training.
> >> I obviously have no idea how to do this, I mean I  have 
> had dogs all
> >> my life and have trained them to sit stay come heel down paw, 
> etc. but
> >> how didy ou train your guides, how did you select them and 
> where did
> >> you get them from, and where did you get equipment.
> >> Thanks.
> >> Jessica
> >>
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