[nagdu] owner training

Julie J julielj at windstream.net
Mon May 3 11:30:53 UTC 2010 

Gary,
The link worked.  Best of luck!   I'll be following your blog for sure, love 
those things!

Julie

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "GARY STEEVES" <rainshadowmusic at shaw.ca>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 10:02 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] owner training


>
> Hi Jessica:
>
> I think i missed part of your thread but do i understand that you have a 
> puppy poodle and are going to owner train? If so, that is great. I'm off 
> to my school tomorrow, Monday, to begin the process of getting my first 
> dog and it will be a poodle as well. The more poodle handlers around the 
> better (well better for me to share info with anyways.)
>
> For those who might be interested I'm going to try and do a blog while I'm 
> in the program at Guide Dogs Canada.  if i did this right, the address is: 
> www.garysdogblog.blogspot.com
>
> Let the adventure  begin. :)
>
> Gary
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jessica Pitzer <rolosgirl at gmail.com>
> Date: Sunday, May 2, 2010 6:45 pm
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] owner training
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>
>> I did, and pepsi proceeded to bite a trainer, so I  handed
>> her over
>> and came home, I can't have a dog who is going to bite people,
>> but now
>> i have my sweet, silly poodle, and he's great.
>>
>> On 5/2/10, Charlene Ota <caota at hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
>> > Hi, Jessica, I hope you don't mind my asking as I'm just
>> curious what
>> > happened. If I'm not mistaken, are you the one who just
>> recently went for a
>> > new dog named Pepsi? Just was wondering what happened. Maybe I
>> missed> something somewhere along the way. Also, if I'm mixing
>> up people, please
>> > accept my appology!  (smile!)
>> >
>> > Charlene
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-
>> bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> > Of Jessica Pitzer
>> > Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 1:35 PM
>> > To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] owner training
>> >
>> > I'm wondering where you specifically found yoru poodle as I'm
>> considering a
>> > poodle. Thanks. Jessica
>> >
>> > On 4/11/10, Tamara Smith-Kinney <tamara.8024 at comcast.net> wrote:
>> >> Jessica,
>> >>
>> >> I apologize for not getting back to you directly for so long about
>> >> your questions.  I was working on my own reply along the
>> lines of what
>> >> both Rox and Julie said, but I got overly long-winded and it
>> was late,
>> >> so I was stupid... /smile/  Also, I can usually be
>> pretty confident
>> >> that the both of them will answer questions about owner-
>> trainer very
>> >> well while I'm still trying to figure out what to say.  /grin/
>> >>
>> >> Anyway, by now you've gotten some great information about the dog
>> >> selection part and some of idea of what your life will be
>> like once
>> >> you do find that elusive right dog.  If you think that
>> all sounds
>> >> absolutely dreaful, it might be time for you to reconsider
>> >> owner-trainer.  If you found yourself thinking that you
>> just can't
>> >> wait to get to all the hard work and frustration and
>> exhaustion and more,
>> > then owner-training could be for you!
>> >> /smile/  The most telling key trait of the successful
>> owner-trainers I
>> >> know is that they *love* it.  They don't fall into bed
>> dead asleep at
>> >> night to dream dog training then drag their still weary
>> bodies out the
>> >> next morning to start it all again because of their
>> dedication to duty and
>> > diligence.
>> >> They do it because they can't wait to get going again for
>> another day,
>> >> because they just are enjoying the process, even the parts
>> that make
>> >> strong men go pale.  /smile/
>> >>
>> >>   I will add that it really helps to inform
>> yourself to the nth degree
>> >> about the ins and outs of temperament testing, temperament
>> >> requirements for guide dogs, given the nature of their work, etc.,
>> >> etc.  I have my list of internet resources buried deep
>> somewhere in
>> >> the bowels of my computer archives, but there is a lot of new stuff
>> >> coming out all the time that you should be able to find
>> easily.  Same
>> >> with books, and honestly I've been reading books about dogs and
>> >> animals for so many years, I think I started doing my study
>> before I
>> >> could actually read the books myself.  /smile/  If
>> you want to get
>> >> some good ideas about books to read on the subject, this list
>> is a
>> >> good place to ask!  I don't have a current reading list
>> myself, I'm
>> >> afraid, but as I get more reading worked back into my life, I
>> will be
>> > asking those questions myself.
>> >>
>> >> Another resource is the vi-clicker-training list,
>> >> vi-clicker-trainers at freelists.org.  Ann Edie is the list
>> owner, I believe.
>> >> I'm afraid I've been lax about keeping up there, but she can
>> tell you
>> >> more about it.
>> >>
>> >> As for equipment:  Pawpower Creations, of course!
>> Julie started the
>> >> harness making business a few years ago as On-The-Go, and
>> everything I
>> >> have for Mitzi is from her.  Great gear!  Rox and
>> her husband have
>> >> since taken on the harness making, so my new purchases will
>> be from
>> >> Pawpower.  The harnesses are not only very good but very
>> affordable,>> and Pawpower is good to work with.
>> >>
>> >> I still have odds and ends floating around from Mitzi's pre-harness
>> >> days, and if you want to discuss more about pre-harness
>> training, I
>> >> will be happy to tell you what I did and used.  Usually
>> that depends
>> >> on what you find in your area that you can afford and still
>> feed the
>> >> dog.  /smile/
>> >>
>> >> Anyway, that's all I can think of right now that might be helpful.
>> >>
>> >> I am interested to know what you learn and what you decide about
>> >> owner-training.
>> >>
>> >> Tami Smith-Kinney
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-
>> bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> >> Behalf Of Jessica Pitzer
>> >> Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 2:13 PM
>> >> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> >> Subject: [nagdu] owner training
>> >>
>> >> Hello,
>> >> I've thought about not saying I'm going to do it, but I've thought
>> >> about owner training.
>> >> I obviously have no idea how to do this, I mean I  have
>> had dogs all
>> >> my life and have trained them to sit stay come heel down paw,
>> etc. but
>> >> how didy ou train your guides, how did you select them and
>> where did
>> >> you get them from, and where did you get equipment.
>> >> Thanks.
>> >> Jessica
>> >>
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