[nagdu] rejected by teh lions club?

[Tamara Smith-Kinney]

Jessica,

That's the attitude you're going to need.  /smile/

Keeping it up over time without getting too goal-oriented was one thing I
had to watch myself on.  I ain't gonna let know one else decide when it's
time to quit -- except me and my dog.  Which means I have to listen to my
dog and to carefully evaluate what I'm telling myself.

I don't know how other owner-trainers have balanced that internal conflict
on an emotional level, but we all do. 

Tami Smith-Kinney

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Jessica Pitzer
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 1:52 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] rejected by teh lions club?

I live in washington and just looked up the laws and it doesn't say he
has to be trained by a school. I believe I can do this, and I will do
this. I have the support of my family and several friends and it seems
your guys support.
Jessica

On 5/2/10, Julie J <julielj at windstream.net> wrote:
> Jessica,
>
> Unfortunately you have just experienced lesson 1 in owner training.  It's
> not called owner training for nothing.
>
> This list and a few others that I have found are pretty welcoming and
> inclusive of owner trainers.  this is not the societal norm though. It's
why
> I stick around here and then people even thought enough of me to invite me
> to be moderator! *smile*
>
> It is very hard to develop a support system to be able to owner train
> successfully.  I rely a lot on other owner trainers for help with working
> through specific training issues.  If I do get help from a pet dog
trainer,
> friend or family I have to be very, very specific with what I need.    If
I
> ask my son and friends to ride their bikes  around the block in a specific
> direction and to not move out of the way for me, but to please say hello
> when they get 20 feet away, I will get cooperation.  If I ask a friend to
> help me train my guide dog, they will be overwhelmed, stressed and
anxious.
> Ask very specifically for what you exactly need at that moment.
>
> As for the legal issue...there are, at my last knowledge still a few
states
> that only recognize guide dogs from specific programs.  Tennessee comes to
> mind.  However since the Federal ADA supercedes the state laws you are
still
> entirely legal to work your owner trained guide there.  the laws regarding
> dogs in training vary widely from state to state.  What state do you live
> in, perhaps we can help you locate your particular laws.
>
> All that said, part of that email is correct.  Training your own guide is
a
> lot of work and if done incorrectly can result in injury.  I don't want to
> gloss that part over.  It's important to know.
>
> I'm sorry you were subjected to the harsh reality of what a lot of people
> think about blind people training their own guides.  It's very
discouraging.
> But I suppose it's just like anything else blind people were told we can't
> do...teach O&M, be Governor, climb Mt. Everest, be a doctor,...it takes
> blind people who are willing to deal with the lack of support and still
> remain confident in their own abilities to change those societal beliefs.
>
> You are always welcome to email me privately.  If there's anything I can
do,
> I'm happy to do so.
>
> Julie
>
>
>
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