[nagdu] rejected by teh lions club?

Mon May 3 20:07:39 UTC 2010

Cool!  The schedule sounds about right.  Including the falling into bed
exhausted but very, very happy and pleased.  /grin/

Tami Smith-Kinney

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Jessica Pitzer
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 10:05 AM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] rejected by teh lions club?

He's fabulous. When he got here, he had no idea even what a leash was.
Over the weekend he has learned to sit, down, heel(this still needs
work) and he's had no accidents. He's very calm and laid back, and
totally ignores our cats. He's already bonded very closely with me.
When I first put the leash on, he bit it, chased it, batted at it,
jumped on it, and so many other things, so I rubbed bitter apple stuff
on his end, and he stopped /lol/. Then he wouldn't walk, he'd just sit
their so I  got my treat bag out, after carrying him for a day and
pulling a muscle in my shoulder, and sat him on one side of the room,
then I backed up 2 steps and called him to me and when he walked, I
gave him the treat, we did that with bigger distances to the other
side of the room, then we turned around and walked back across with no
treats, he has walked every since. My weekend has been exhausting but
I feel wonderful, I feel better physically than I have in a long long
time. Our schedule so far is:
7 AM wake up, go out, feed, water, go out.
7 30 AM small obedience session
7:40 AM to 8:30 play time
8:30 go out
8:45 to 10 nap
10 go out and for a walk
10:45 go out
11:00 to 11:50 small nap
12:00 lunch time
12:30 go out
1:00 to 2:00 nap
2:00 go out, and then for another walk
3:00 go out when we get back
3:15 to 4 obedience and play time
4:00 to 6:00 nap time
6:00 eat water, go out
6 to 7 kinda down time with the family but still on leash practing our
down stay with our toys ot keep us busy
7 go out
7 to 9 in crate play time
9 go out for last time and then I fall into bed
I've been getting up to take him out around once per night, when he
wimpers and this has wroked, he's a very healthy happy boy but he's
not at all hyper.
I am very very pleased.
Jessica

On 5/3/10, Tamara Smith-Kinney <tamara.8024 at comcast.net> wrote:
> Jessica,
>
> Holey moley!  My first thoughts cannot be repeated.  My second thoughts...
> Er...  Fill in the bleeps to your satisfaction.  Good grief.
>
> Oh, I have heard the same thing when requesting assistance -- even when
that
> was the answer to a simple question -- of experts and others who are there
> to help.  Complete with the God Bless type bit after the long-winded,
> bizarre and factually untrue insults.
>
> My conclusion based on my past 4 years dealing with people who are
dedicated
> to helping blind people live independent lives:  They are adamantly --
> sometimes even violently -- opposed to signs of independence in blind
> people!  Why this is, or what psychology is going on there to lead so many
> of such people into the positions they're in, I have not begun to fathom.
>
> Well, sorry you got such a brutal slapping around instead of information
and
> referral to possible resources even if the Lion's Club chose not to be
> involved.
>
> As far as possible resource assistance goes, my early investigations
brought
> pretty much the same result you just got.  Sorry I don't have better news.
>
> How's your kiddo?  I thought of you this weekend, but was scrambling
around
> and didn't get a chance to e-mail you.  I bet you were doing a lot of
> scrambling around with your pup.  /grin/
>
> Hang in there!
>
> Tami Smith-Kinney
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Jessica Pitzer
> Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 12:53 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: [nagdu] rejected by teh lions club?
>
> Hi all,
> following is an email I received in response to an email I sent to my
> local lions club about asking for help with some of the costs of owner
> training. I'm.. not quite sure how to feel right now except baffled as
> we have some many owner trainers and I just embarked on this journey
> myself.
> Thoughts?
> On 5/2/10, Rosemary Richert <rosemary at richertnet.com> wrote:
>> Hi Bert,
>>
>> It is highly unusual, and questionably irresponsible, for someone to
train
>> their own guide dog.  The state only recognizes service animals which
have
>> been professionally trained.  Any other such dogs may be banned from
> places
>> which would otherwise allow access to service animals.  Necessary
training
>> of the dog is very comprehensive and time consuming.  And, subsequently,
>> training of the blind person with the dog is, also, very comprehensive
and
>> time consuming.  For the person's training, alone, three weeks of on-site
>> training with the animal determined best suited to their needs is
> required.
>> The blind person needs to prove their orientation and mobility skills
> before
>> even being accepted into a training program.  Without proof of the
> adequacy
>> of those skills, they will not be accepted.
>>
>> I served on the Board of Directors of Leader Dogs for the Blind for four
>> years, and am the person who convinced the facility to become trainers
for
>> the blind/deaf community...to the best of my knowledge, it remains the
> only
>> facility with qualified instructors of deaf/blind individuals.  I tell
you
>> this, so that you may understand that I have a credible background in
> these
>> matters, and know whereof I speak.  I would strongly caution your Lions
>> club, or any other Lions club, about considering involvement with a
person
>> who thinks they can train a guide dog for the blind on their own.
>> Involvement under such circumstances could come back to haunt an
otherwise
>> well-meaning club.  It would make much more sense for this person to be
>> screened as to qualifications; and, if qualified, be sponsored to a
>> recognized service do training program.
>>
>> Thank you for your kind consideration.
>>
>>
>>
>> God bless.
>>
>>
>>
>> With Lionism at Heart, C
>>
>>
>>
>> PDG Rosemary
>
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