[nagdu] Harnesses Re: Introduction

Jewel S. herekittykat2 at gmail.com
Tue May 11 21:04:35 UTC 2010


A related question...with a balance harness, how does the handle and
balance bar work out? Does anyone have a good description of what a
balance harness looks like? Does the handle on a balance harness
differ from the standard harness? When I get my first guide dog, s/he
will also be there to help with balance, so a balance harness is going
to be the main harness we use, though we'll also have a standard
harness for days when I'm doing better.

~Jewel

On 5/11/10, Meghan Whalen <meghan at n-republic.net> wrote:
> The length of the handle depends on many criterian:
>
> 1.  How tall are you
> 2.  How tall is your dog
> 3.  How long is your dog
> 4.  what is the most comfortable working position for both you and your dog
> ----- Original Message -----
> 5.  Other things I'm not thinking of, I'm sure.
>
> For example, with my current dog, I use a short handle, I believe this is a
> 14 inch handle.  If I were taller, I would need a longer handle, if she were
> taller, I would need a shorter handle.
>
> I hope that makes sense.
>
> Meghan
> From: "Nicole B. Torcolini" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:10 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Harnesses Re: Introduction
>
>
>> For me, it was trial and error.  I started with the standard issue from
>> GDB, not sure what length that is.  Then, I thought that I needed a longer
>>
>> handle, so I went home with a longer handle.  After a little while, I
>> decided that I needed a shorter one again, as I was too far behind Lexia.
>> I tried that for a while, then I tried an offset handle, which is what I
>> use now.  Do you know what offset and ergonomic handles are shaped like?
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jessica Pitzer" <rolosgirl at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 9:13 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Harnesses Re: Introduction
>>
>>
>>> I'm wondering, and maybe this is me being stupid, but.. how do  you
>>> decide how long of a handle to get? Jessica
>>>
>>> On 5/10/10, Pawpower Creations <pawpower at cox.net> wrote:
>>>> Yes, I make handles in lengths from 10 to 20 inches.  I also make
>>>> off-set
>>>> handles in lengths from 12 inches to 20 inches.  I am working on a an
>>>> urgonomic handle, and hope to offer one in the future, but that is still
>>>>
>>>> in
>>>> the works.
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes from the Pawpower pack!
>>>> Bristol, Mill'E, Rudy, and Laveau
>>>>
>>>> Pawpower Creations, Products designed with you and your Canine in mind
>>>> Bob Blackner/Rox'E Homstad
>>>> 504-312-2609
>>>> pawpower at cox.net
>>>> www.pawpowercreations.com
>>>> Custom made guide dog harnesses, leashes, collars, and relieving
>>>> harnesses.
>>>>
>>>> With eye upraised his master's look to scan,
>>>> The joy, the solace, and the aid of man:
>>>> The rich man's guardian and the poor man's friend,
>>>> The only creature faithful to the end.
>>>>
>>>> George Crabbe
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Nicole B. Torcolini" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 11:24 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Harnesses Re: Introduction
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Do the harnesses come with different handle options?  The GDB harnesses
>>>>> have long or short handles, offsets, and ergonomic handles.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Pawpower Creations" <pawpower at cox.net>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 6:56 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Harnesses Re: Introduction
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I don't think that any of the schools require that you use only their
>>>>>>harness.  As long as the equipment is safe it shouldn't matter what is
>>>>>>used. The most important thing is that you use the equipment that works
>>>>>>best for you and your dog and that it is safe and comfortable.
>>>>>> I would be happy to answer any questions that anyone may have.  There
>>>>>> are
>>>>>>
>>>>>> email links on my site, and there is other contact info in my
>>>>>> signature.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best wishes from the Pawpower pack!
>>>>>> Bristol, Mill'E, Rudy, and Laveau
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pawpower Creations, Products designed with you and your Canine in mind
>>>>>> Bob Blackner/Rox'E Homstad
>>>>>> 504-312-2609
>>>>>> pawpower at cox.net
>>>>>> www.pawpowercreations.com
>>>>>> Custom made guide dog harnesses, leashes, collars, and relieving
>>>>>> harnesses.
>>>>>> Pawp
>>>>>> With eye upraised his master's look to scan,
>>>>>> The joy, the solace, and the aid of man:
>>>>>> The rich man's guardian and the poor man's friend,
>>>>>> The only creature faithful to the end.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> George Crabbe
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Jewel S." <herekittykat2 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 6:34 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Harnesses Re: Introduction
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I think she means, are these harnesses approved by training schools in
>>>>>>> the U.S. for use with "their' dogs?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think the colour doesn't matter so much, though I imagine a red
>>>>>>> harness would be cooler than a black one. But I'd love to hear more
>>>>>>> about these harnesses...are they cooler (weather-wise)? Does the
>>>>>>> padding help prevent chaffing in hot, humid weather (such as in
>>>>>>> Louisiana and Texas)? What are the advantages and disadvantages of
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> sports harness versus the standard harness? Also, is the relieving
>>>>>>> harness only for break time, like in the morning before you get
>>>>>>> ready?
>>>>>>> It's not for regular work, is it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would love to hear more about these harnesses, especially if the
>>>>>>> sports harness is better for very hot weather (like Texas, Louisiana,
>>>>>>> and Florida in the summer would be...). I would hate to put a hot
>>>>>>> harness on a pup on a day with a heat index of 130 degrees
>>>>>>> Farenheit...shear torture!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ~Jewel
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/9/10, Pawpower Creations <pawpower at cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I'm not sure exactly what you are asking.  The color of the harness
>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>> have no bearing on how the public views a blind indevidual and his
>>>>>>>> guide.
>>>>>>>> My wife and I both use our nylon harnesses, and so do many others
>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> purchased them from us, and never have I heard that there was an
>>>>>>>> issue
>>>>>>>> because of the color or style of the harness.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best wishes from the Pawpower pack!
>>>>>>>> Bristol, Mill'E, Rudy, and Laveau
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Pawpower Creations, Products designed with you and your Canine in
>>>>>>>> mind
>>>>>>>> Bob Blackner/Rox'E Homstad
>>>>>>>> 504-312-2609
>>>>>>>> pawpower at cox.net
>>>>>>>> www.pawpowercreations.com
>>>>>>>> Custom made guide dog harnesses, leashes, collars, and relieving
>>>>>>>> harnesses.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> With eye upraised his master's look to scan,
>>>>>>>> The joy, the solace, and the aid of man:
>>>>>>>> The rich man's guardian and the poor man's friend,
>>>>>>>> The only creature faithful to the end.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> George Crabbe
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Nicole B. Torcolini" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 11:06 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Harnesses Re: Introduction
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Are these colored harnesses working harnesses?  Does anyone on this
>>>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>>>> have one?  If so, is the public's perception of you and your dog
>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>> different?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "Jewel S." <herekittykat2 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>>> Users"
>>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 7:46 AM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Introduction
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Bob! I'm Jewel. I'm 25 years old, and considering GDF to get my
>>>>>>>>>> first guide dog. I live in Raleigh, North Carolina, and will be
>>>>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>>>>> to school starting this fall for Elementary Education towards a
>>>>>>>>>> career
>>>>>>>>>> as a teacher of the blind and visually impaired. I myself am
>>>>>>>>>> legally
>>>>>>>>>> blind with 3/350 in one eye only (light perception in the other).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I took a look at your website. I bookmarked it, and would *love* a
>>>>>>>>>> blue or purple or green harness for my puppy, depending on what
>>>>>>>>>> dog I
>>>>>>>>>> get, and the sports and relieving harnesses sound rather
>>>>>>>>>> interesting.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Could you tell us more about the design of the sports and
>>>>>>>>>> relieving
>>>>>>>>>> harnesses versus the standard harness? I know the sports harness
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> lighter, what other differences? And how does the relieving
>>>>>>>>>> harness
>>>>>>>>>> work? It sounds like a cool idea!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ~Jewel
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 5/8/10, cheryl echevarria <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Bob aren't you on the gdf grad list.
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Julie J" <julielj at windstream.net>
>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>>>>> Users"
>>>>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 8:30 AM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Introduction
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Welcome Bob!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Julie
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Pawpower Creations" <pawpower at cox.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 5:31 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Introduction
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Greetings everyone, I am Bob Blackner, and I live in New
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Orleans
>>>>>>>>>>>> > with
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > my
>>>>>>>>>>>> > wife Rox'E, my guide dog Rudy, and the rest of the pawpower
>>>>>>>>>>>> > pack:
>>>>>>>>>>>> > queen
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Bristol, Mill'E to the max, and last but not least baby girl
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Laveau.
>>>>>>>>>>>> > I
>>>>>>>>>>>> > am
>>>>>>>>>>>> > an assistive technology specialist, and I am also the co-owner
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > of
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Pawpower
>>>>>>>>>>>> > creations.  I make custom nylon guide and service dog
>>>>>>>>>>>> > equipment
>>>>>>>>>>>> > such
>>>>>>>>>>>> > as
>>>>>>>>>>>> > harnesses, leashes, collars, and relieving harnesses. I really
>>>>>>>>>>>> > enjoy
>>>>>>>>>>>> > my
>>>>>>>>>>>> > work.
>>>>>>>>>>>> > I look forward to being a part of this guide dog discussion
>>>>>>>>>>>> > list.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > My
>>>>>>>>>>>> > wife
>>>>>>>>>>>> > tells me that this is a fun and informative group of people.
>>>>>>>>>>>> > I hope everyone is having a pleasant Friday.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Best wishes from the Pawpower pack!
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Bristol, Mill'E, Rudy, and Laveau
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Pawpower Creations, Products designed with you and your Canine
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > in
>>>>>>>>>>>> > mind
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Bob Blackner/Rox'E Homstad
>>>>>>>>>>>> > 504-312-2609
>>>>>>>>>>>> > pawpower at cox.net
>>>>>>>>>>>> > www.pawpowercreations.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Custom made guide dog harnesses, leashes, collars, and
>>>>>>>>>>>> > relieving
>>>>>>>>>>>> > harnesses.
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Pawpower Creations is constantly growing and expanding as we
>>>>>>>>>>>> > strive
>>>>>>>>>>>> > to
>>>>>>>>>>>> > provide quality products for you and your canine companions.
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Soon
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > we
>>>>>>>>>>>> > will
>>>>>>>>>>>> > be offering
>>>>>>>>>>>> > herb classes taught by a certified Herbalist, dog training
>>>>>>>>>>>> > classes, a
>>>>>>>>>>>> > training tips section, and other useful information.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
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>>>>>>>>>>>> > other
>>>>>>>>>>>> > fragrant
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>>>>>>>>>>>> > and uplift
>>>>>>>>>>>> > your spirit.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > With eye upraised his master's look to scan,
>>>>>>>>>>>> > The joy, the solace, and the aid of man:
>>>>>>>>>>>> > The rich man's guardian and the poor man's friend,
>>>>>>>>>>>> > The only creature faithful to the end.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > George Crabbe
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