[nagdu] Emotional Support Dog Article

Thu Apr 7 16:08:00 UTC 2011

Lisa, 
Can you explain? 
How should we demonstrate our disability and to whom.  Why does that person get to decide if we are disabled. 
I can remember stopping off at a gas station to use the bathroom very late at night. I had to pee so bad I could taste it. I go into the store associated with the gas station and the guy in charge tells me dogs aren't allowed. I explain to him that my dog was a guide dog, the whole time doing my best not to pee on the floor. I have absolutely no idea how I convinced the guy that I really am blind, but I do remember his first comment being "But your eyes look fine and you don't act blind". 
I apparently didn't meet his definition. 
Also, what happens if the person we demonstrate to decides that their solution (not using the dog) is moreappropriate? 
And would your system only impact dog users or all people who are blind? Why or why not. 

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Irving
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 3:02 AM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Emotional Support Dog Article

Yes, we might take personal offense to justifying our disability because we 
already do this on a regular basis. With that said, our laws are intended to 
be objective. hence, the need to demonstrate/document our disability.

Lisa and Bernie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "d m gina" <dmgina at samobile.net>
To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Emotional Support Dog Article

> Ahem prove we are disabled.
> When you are being guided walking with someone to the gate, isn't that 
> proof enough we are blind?
> I for one get assistance, I wouldn't have no clue how to get from one gate 
> to another at any air port.
> What kinds of proof do I need to add to the other items I'm taking with 
> me.
> I sure wouldn't want to take an eye out just to prove that I'm disabled.
> Something just doesn't sound correct here.
>
> Original message:
>> Cheryl,
>>     Just as a point of clarification, a medical condition, in and of 
>> itself,
>> is not sufficient to protect a person under these circumstances. In order 
>> to
>> be afforded protection under the Fair Housing Act, the person must be
>> disabled. The same is true with protection under the ADA. This article
>> clearly states that the Court found that the plaintiff was disabled as 
>> the
>> result of the medical condition. Likewise, should any of us file a
>> complaint, it would be incumbant upon us to prove that we are disabled, 
>> as
>> these laws only protect indivisuals with disabilities.
>
>> Fraternally yours,
>> Marion Gwizdala
>
>
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 8:17 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Emotional Support Dog Article
>
>
>>> FYI, AIDS is a recognized Medical Condition. So, why should this post a
>>> threat Aaron.
>
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>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>>  From: Steven Johnson<mailto:blinddog3 at charter.net>
>>>  To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>> Users'<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>  Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 6:56 AM
>>>  Subject: Re: [nagdu] Emotional Support Dog Article
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>
>>>  What position and in what respects?  This ruling is covered by the Fair
>>>  Housing Amendments Act, not the ADA.
>
>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>>  From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org>
>>> [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>>>  Of Aaron Cannon
>>>  Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 10:32 PM
>>>  To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>  Subject: [nagdu] Emotional Support Dog Article
>
>>>  My opinion:
>>>  This ruling certainly doesn't help our position.
>
>
>>> http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2011/04/ruling_says_lan.html<http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2011/04/ruling_says_lan.html>
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