[nagdu] Follow

Sun Apr 17 05:23:11 UTC 2011

What you're saying is quite funny. I find similar circumstances to be mildly 
frustrating. I have a friend who does know a lot, however, he crosses the 
line and becomes the negative vent of "know it all". We were walking through 
a hospital parking lot, one I'm pretty fmailiar with. I finally had to tell 
this person that I'm going to let Bernie do his thing and follow him.

Lisa and Bernie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tamara Smith-Kinney" <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
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Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Follow

> Tracy and Rox,
>
> Teehee!  Maybe we should start a stubborn guide dog club?
>
> Mitzi drives DD absolutely nutty sometimes when he goes into overprotector
> mode and decides he knows best and should be the one making decisions 
> about
> how she should do her job.  He's really very good about remembering and is
> getting better and better at behaving himself when I have to remind him to
> be good...  But since he only slips into the overprotector gear when he's
> really stressed about stuff he can't control, he's not at his least 
> stubborn
> then, either.
>
> Parking lots are the worst!  Mitzi is very firm on doing things her way in
> parking lots.  I am very firm on refusing to use "follow" under any
> circumstances in parking lots.  DD is certain that we're both going to die
> horribly if we don't follow him step for step and do exactly what he tells
> us to do when he tells us to!  We must look like quite the circus 
> sometimes.
> Especially since I either give in to the temptation to argue with him as 
> he
> angles across the lot while Mitzi tracks to the right at right angles, or 
> I
> lose it and just go along giggling my head off because it is all just too
> ridiculous.
>
> One of these days, DD is going to remember to let Mitzi do her job in a
> parking lot, or even give it up and do the right angle route with us. 
> We'll
> probably all get run over while we're recovering from the shock of that!
> /grin/
>
> Tami Smith-Kinney
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of The Pawpower Pack
> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 6:48 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Follow
>
> Tracy, yes! Laveau is also, always right!  She doesn't trust anyone else 
> to
> make choices to keep me safe and if she doesn't like the path ahead she 
> has
> been known to lose the person, find a better way around and then meet up
> with them again.
>
> Rox
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 15 Apr 2011, at 07:31 AM, "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi Rox.
>> My Benny isn't a keen follower, either.  He's an independent thinker. 
>> He's
>> a  labrador, with cat or shepherd tendencies.  He'll follow someone for a
>> little while, if I want him to, but then he'll decide that's too dull and
>> we'll lose them, if I don't check periodically.  I rather like it that he
>> doesn't get locked in to follow mode.  I'd swear my shepherd would follow
>> someone off a cliff, once he got into follow mode.  But poor Nestor was 
>> an
>> anxious guy, and follow must have been easier for him than always 
>> worrying
>> about making the right decisions.  Ben doesn't care; he figures he's
>> always right.
>> Tracy
>>
>>
>>> Lisa,
>>>
>>> I'm Deafblind and my dog needs to be very solid in the "follow" cue.
>>> I can't communicate in spoken English and signing tactually while
>>> walking is nearly impossible unless you are going sighted guide so my
>>> dog is expected to follow whom I designate.
>>>
>>> She does not follow random people.  The "follow" cue is like any other
>>> cue.  If you used their logic then why teach the dog any cue because
>>> the dog may decide to randomly perform it such as turning left even if
>>> you haven't told the dog to do so.
>>> What I notice with many dogs is that they like the "follow" cue
>>> because it is less work to follow someone than to actually guide and
>>> be focused.  We all like to take the easy rout, dogs included.
>>> I'm very lucky and probably different than most on this list.  My dog
>>> is a Doberman and she does not enjoy following others.  She hates
>>> being forced to walk behind someone and not to make the decisions.
>>> Controlling? yeah, just a bit. :)
>>> But I guess I'll keep her.
>>>
>>> Rox and the Botanical Barkers:
>>> Bristol (retired), Mill'E SD. and Laveau Guide Dog, CGC.
>>> "The only problem with troubleshooting is, sometimes, trouble shoots
>>> back."
>>> http://www.pawpowercreations.com
>>> pawpower4me at gmail.com
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