[nagdu] id's and harnesses

[Marion Gwizdala]

Larry,
    Having your photo I.D. or a fishing/hunting license is dictated by law. 
Likewise, the Department of Justice states,"perform. A public entity shall 
not require documentation, such as proof that the animal has been certified, 
trained, or licensed as a service animal." (
28 CFR Part 36.104(F))



Fraternally yours,

Marion Gwizdala









----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 4:04 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] id's and harnesses


> Well Jennifer, you have to have your ID when you go to the bar or buy a 
> fishing license.  I carry them with me in my backpack all of the time! 
> But you are right about regulating the issue to death.  At least in the 
> case of guide dogs you can usually see them in action and most folks 
> should know the function of the dog after a few minutes anyway.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jennifer Piening" <pienings at comcast.net>
> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 2:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] id's and harnesses
>
>
>> Hi! From the descriptions of the harnesses and looking at the Paw Power 
>> Creations website, I am excited to get one of these harnesses.  I'm 
>> especially excited to learn that they sell nylon leashes that are similar 
>> to leather leashes, since my poodle puppy loves to chew up leather 
>> leashes but doesn't touch her nylon leash.  I don't like the nylon 
>> leashes sold in the pet stores because they are usually too long. So I'll 
>> have to order some of the nylon adjustable leashes.
>>      I do not live in Michigan.  I live in a state which borders 
>> Michigan, so we visit quite frequently.
>>      As for the ID issue... I think that it is invasive to be asked to 
>> show an ID.  Talk about drawing attention to yourself.  Also there are 
>> times when I don't bring much with me like when I go on walks.  What if I 
>> decide to stop in somewhere for a drink or to use the restroom.  How 
>> annoying it would be if I had to bring my wallet or a purse to carry the 
>> ID in just to show that I have the right to bring my dog into the place.
>>      I also was wondering about owner trained dogs, and now I know the 
>> answer.  If they were required to get an ID from somewhere, then anybody 
>> could get the same ID, which would defeat the purpose, don't you think? 
>> How would you determine if the ID was really valid or a fake? It's so 
>> easy to make ID cards, and even forge checks (frustrated sigh) with a 
>> personal computer that creating an ID would be a walk in the park for 
>> people who had the desire to do so. Also how many businesses would really 
>> have the man power to follow through with making sure the ID was 
>> legitimate?  They would first have to make a copy of the ID, which I 
>> personally wouldn't allow them to do just to satisfy their own paranoia. 
>> Then they would have to call the school, and somehow verify that an owner 
>> trained dog was really a service or a guide dog. People think that if 
>> everything is regulated to death that all of the problems will be solved, 
>> but if people want to do something badly enough, they'll find a way. 
>> meanwhile, all of the regulations end up complicating life for and 
>> annoying the average person.
>>      Just my opinion. Take care everybody, and thanks for the advice! 
>> Jenny
>>
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