[nagdu] fidelco guide dogs, what do you think of this organization

Fri Aug 19 11:46:04 UTC 2011

Well thank you for that.

It just seems a little more talking of NAGDU, then just GDUI around the 
Graduates and the employees, etc there.

Just my own observations of being a graduate, in the past, especially when I 
was on class, they weren't speaking of anything but GDUI, or the meeting 
they have every year. I forgot what they call in where they have it down 
south I think Georgia.

Anyway, it seems since you have been in contact, it seems a little more of 
both organizations.

Again, this was my own feelings on it.

Leading the Way in Independent Travel!

Cheryl Echevarria
http://www.echevarriatravel.com
631-456-5394
reservations at echevarriatravel.com

Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Superior Travel, located in 
Baldwin, NY. www.superiortravel.com

Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Absolute Cruise & Travel, Inc.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marion Gwizdala" <blind411 at verizon.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 7:35 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] fidelco guide dogs,what do you think of this 
organization

> Cheryl,
>     The fact of the matter is that I have had no influence on GDF. I have
> only been a consumer for a little more than one year. I have had
> conversations concerning their policies and practices, but have not had 
> any
> discussions about modifying them. If there have been changes made at GDF, 
> I
> have not been the catalyst, as far as I know.
>
> Fraternally yours,
> Marion
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] fidelco guide dogs, what do you think of this
> organization
>
>
> > Of course, but it has gotten better since Marion has been a graduate of
> > the school.
> >
> >
> > Leading the Way in Independent Travel!
> >
> > Cheryl Echevarria
> > http://www.echevarriatravel.com
> > 631-456-5394
> > reservations at echevarriatravel.com
> >
> > Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Superior Travel, located in
> > Baldwin, NY. www.superiortravel.com
> >
> > Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Absolute Cruise & Travel,
> > Inc.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Margo and Arrow" <margo.downey at verizon.net>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:48 PM
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] fidelco guide dogs,what do you think of this
> > organization
> >
> >
> >> cheryl, I would hope that you would also work to help GDF become a 
> >> better
> >> school if need be as well.
> >>
> >> Margo and Arrow
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
> >> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> >> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> >> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:43 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [nagdu] fidelco guide dogs, what do you think of this
> >> organization
> >>
> >>
> >> >I agree, I live 10 minutes from GDF, but if I felt that they were not
> >> >doing
> >> >me good, there are 2 other schools near me, that I can attend or go to
> >> >others.
> >> >
> >> > If we brought something at a store or were treated rudely, we would
> >> > either
> >> > not go there again, or complain.
> >> >
> >> > It should be the same with our dogs, we love them and they are good 
> >> > to
> >> > us.
> >> > Also, we have to think if they are doing this to us, what are the 
> >> > doing
> >> > to
> >> > others, they are giving themselves a bad name.
> >> >
> >> > Leading the Way in Independent Travel!
> >> >
> >> > Cheryl Echevarria
> >> > http://www.echevarriatravel.com
> >> > 631-456-5394
> >> > reservations at echevarriatravel.com
> >> >
> >> > Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Superior Travel, located
> >> > in
> >> > Baldwin, NY. www.superiortravel.com
> >> >
> >> > Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Absolute Cruise & 
> >> > Travel,
> >> > Inc.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> > From: "Margo and Arrow" <margo.downey at verizon.net>
> >> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> >> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> >> > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:41 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] fidelco guide dogs,what do you think of this
> >> > organization
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Brian, we do not censor the truth on this list.  Graduates have come
> >> >> to
> >> >> us
> >> >> with worries and concerns.
> >> >>
> >> >> folks, let's not defend our schools to the point that we bury our
> >> >> heads
> >> >> in
> >> >> the sand.  thank you.
> >> >>
> >> >> margo anbd Arrow
> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> >> From: "Tina Thomas" <tinadt at sbcglobal.net>
> >> >> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> >> >> Users'"
> >> >> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> >> >> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 3:48 PM
> >> >> Subject: Re: [nagdu] fidelco guide dogs, what do you think of this
> >> >> organization
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > Why wouldn't we print the truth on this list. As far as the
> >> >> > negativity
> >> >> > goes,
> >> >> > graduates approached us with concerns, we did not single out
> >> >> > Fidelco.
> >> >> > So
> >> >> > far you are the only one w  we have heard from who has given
> >> >> > positive
> >> >> > feedback about the school. Oh as far as being embarrassed, I have
> >> >> > total
> >> >> > confidence in our leadership and I know for a  fact that  the 
> >> >> > NAGDU
> >> >> > board
> >> >> > of
> >> >> > directors are unbiased towards any guide dog program. However, at
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > same
> >> >> > time, if graduates come to us with concerns and or evidence of
> >> >> > misconduct
> >> >> > on
> >> >> > behalf of a school,  we will investigate the  claims.
> >> >> > Tina
> >> >> > NAGDU Board Member
> >> >> > CAGDU VP.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> >> > From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
> >> >> > On
> >> >> > Behalf
> >> >> > Of Bryan Brown
> >> >> > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 11:10 AM
> >> >> > To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog 
> >> >> > Users
> >> >> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] fidelco guide dogs, what do you think of this
> >> >> > organization
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Reinhard,
> >> >> >
> >> >> >    I was just recently placed with my second Fidelco dog. I am 
> >> >> > very
> >> >> > happy
> >> >> > with the dogs and the service that I have received from Fidelco.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > There are a few people who have a negative opinion about Fidelco 
> >> >> > on
> >> >> > this
> >> >> > list. I encourage you to take a look at the facts. The people who
> >> >> > have
> >> >> > complained about Fidelco have remained anonymous and none of the
> >> >> > allegations
> >> >> >
> >> >> > have been proven or substantiated.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I feel that when the truth of these matters eventually comes to 
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > surface
> >> >> > you will probably not hear about it on this list. Many people will
> >> >> > be
> >> >> > embarrassed and the faith that current NAGDU members have in their
> >> >> > leadership will be unforgettably shaken.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I am a strong supporter of Fidelco and what the organization 
> >> >> > stands
> >> >> > for.
> >> >> > Please feel free to contact me off list at
> >> >> >
> >> >> > bryanbrown at solarus.biz
> >> >> >
> >> >> > if you would like to.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >    thanks,
> >> >> >    Bryan
> >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> >> > From: "reinhard stebner" <rwstebner at aol.com>
> >> >> > To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> >> >> > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 8:40 AM
> >> >> > Subject: [nagdu] fidelco guide dogs, what do you think of this
> >> >> > organization
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Good day to you,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I just joined this list in hopes of getting opinions of Fidelco
> >> >> >> guide
> >> >> >> dogs.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> 1) What have you thought  about Fidelco dogs?  I recently say a
> >> >> >> Braille
> >> >> >> monitor article about one users bad experience with Fidelco.  I 
> >> >> >> had
> >> >> >> applied for a dog from them in February and was just approved to
> >> >> >> get a
> >> >> >> guide from them.  After reading the article, I have doubts if I
> >> >> >> have
> >> >> >> made
> >> >> >> the correct decision with attending this guide school.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> 2) All of the dogs that I have seen from this school have been 
> >> >> >> very
> >> >> >> well
> >> >> >> trained and respond well to their handlers.  I wanted a German
> >> >> >> Shepherd
> >> >> >> and did not have time to go to a traditional school.  I have had
> >> >> >> poor
> >> >> >> matches from other schools and wanted to give a smaller school a
> >> >> >> try.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Any constructive feedback is welcome about guide dogs schools.  I
> >> >> >> want
> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> make sure I am making the best possible decision and not have
> >> >> >> issues
> >> >> >> with
> >> >> >> he school.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
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> >> >> > biz
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
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