[nagdu] fidelco guide dogs, what do you think of this organization

Marion Gwizdala blind411 at verizon.net
Fri Aug 19 12:45:07 UTC 2011 

Cheryl,
    Well, this is good to know. NAGDU is fostering better relationships with 
the training programs, in spite of what some may think because of our 
advocacy for consumers. Most training programs want to do the right thing 
and seek the input of NAGDU.

Fraternally yours,
Marion


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 7:46 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] fidelco guide dogs, what do you think of this 
organization


> Well thank you for that.
>
> It just seems a little more talking of NAGDU, then just GDUI around the 
> Graduates and the employees, etc there.
>
> Just my own observations of being a graduate, in the past, especially when 
> I was on class, they weren't speaking of anything but GDUI, or the meeting 
> they have every year. I forgot what they call in where they have it down 
> south I think Georgia.
>
> Anyway, it seems since you have been in contact, it seems a little more of 
> both organizations.
>
> Again, this was my own feelings on it.
>
> Leading the Way in Independent Travel!
>
> Cheryl Echevarria
> http://www.echevarriatravel.com
> 631-456-5394
> reservations at echevarriatravel.com
>
> Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Superior Travel, located in 
> Baldwin, NY. www.superiortravel.com
>
> Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Absolute Cruise & Travel, 
> Inc.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Marion Gwizdala" <blind411 at verizon.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 7:35 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] fidelco guide dogs,what do you think of this 
> organization
>
>
>> Cheryl,
>>     The fact of the matter is that I have had no influence on GDF. I have
>> only been a consumer for a little more than one year. I have had
>> conversations concerning their policies and practices, but have not had 
>> any
>> discussions about modifying them. If there have been changes made at GDF, 
>> I
>> have not been the catalyst, as far as I know.
>>
>> Fraternally yours,
>> Marion
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:52 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] fidelco guide dogs, what do you think of this
>> organization
>>
>>
>> > Of course, but it has gotten better since Marion has been a graduate of
>> > the school.
>> >
>> >
>> > Leading the Way in Independent Travel!
>> >
>> > Cheryl Echevarria
>> > http://www.echevarriatravel.com
>> > 631-456-5394
>> > reservations at echevarriatravel.com
>> >
>> > Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Superior Travel, located 
>> > in
>> > Baldwin, NY. www.superiortravel.com
>> >
>> > Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Absolute Cruise & Travel,
>> > Inc.
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "Margo and Arrow" <margo.downey at verizon.net>
>> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:48 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] fidelco guide dogs,what do you think of this
>> > organization
>> >
>> >
>> >> cheryl, I would hope that you would also work to help GDF become a 
>> >> better
>> >> school if need be as well.
>> >>
>> >> Margo and Arrow
>> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
>> >> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> >> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> >> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:43 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [nagdu] fidelco guide dogs, what do you think of this
>> >> organization
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >I agree, I live 10 minutes from GDF, but if I felt that they were not
>> >> >doing
>> >> >me good, there are 2 other schools near me, that I can attend or go 
>> >> >to
>> >> >others.
>> >> >
>> >> > If we brought something at a store or were treated rudely, we would
>> >> > either
>> >> > not go there again, or complain.
>> >> >
>> >> > It should be the same with our dogs, we love them and they are good 
>> >> > to
>> >> > us.
>> >> > Also, we have to think if they are doing this to us, what are the 
>> >> > doing
>> >> > to
>> >> > others, they are giving themselves a bad name.
>> >> >
>> >> > Leading the Way in Independent Travel!
>> >> >
>> >> > Cheryl Echevarria
>> >> > http://www.echevarriatravel.com
>> >> > 631-456-5394
>> >> > reservations at echevarriatravel.com
>> >> >
>> >> > Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Superior Travel, 
>> >> > located
>> >> > in
>> >> > Baldwin, NY. www.superiortravel.com
>> >> >
>> >> > Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Absolute Cruise & 
>> >> > Travel,
>> >> > Inc.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> > From: "Margo and Arrow" <margo.downey at verizon.net>
>> >> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog 
>> >> > Users"
>> >> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> >> > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:41 PM
>> >> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] fidelco guide dogs,what do you think of this
>> >> > organization
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> Brian, we do not censor the truth on this list.  Graduates have 
>> >> >> come
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> us
>> >> >> with worries and concerns.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> folks, let's not defend our schools to the point that we bury our
>> >> >> heads
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> the sand.  thank you.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> margo anbd Arrow
>> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> >> From: "Tina Thomas" <tinadt at sbcglobal.net>
>> >> >> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>> >> >> Users'"
>> >> >> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> >> >> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 3:48 PM
>> >> >> Subject: Re: [nagdu] fidelco guide dogs, what do you think of this
>> >> >> organization
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Why wouldn't we print the truth on this list. As far as the
>> >> >> > negativity
>> >> >> > goes,
>> >> >> > graduates approached us with concerns, we did not single out
>> >> >> > Fidelco.
>> >> >> > So
>> >> >> > far you are the only one w  we have heard from who has given
>> >> >> > positive
>> >> >> > feedback about the school. Oh as far as being embarrassed, I have
>> >> >> > total
>> >> >> > confidence in our leadership and I know for a  fact that  the 
>> >> >> > NAGDU
>> >> >> > board
>> >> >> > of
>> >> >> > directors are unbiased towards any guide dog program. However, at
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > same
>> >> >> > time, if graduates come to us with concerns and or evidence of
>> >> >> > misconduct
>> >> >> > on
>> >> >> > behalf of a school,  we will investigate the  claims.
>> >> >> > Tina
>> >> >> > NAGDU Board Member
>> >> >> > CAGDU VP.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > -----Original Message-----
>> >> >> > From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
>> >> >> > On
>> >> >> > Behalf
>> >> >> > Of Bryan Brown
>> >> >> > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 11:10 AM
>> >> >> > To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog 
>> >> >> > Users
>> >> >> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] fidelco guide dogs, what do you think of 
>> >> >> > this
>> >> >> > organization
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Reinhard,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >    I was just recently placed with my second Fidelco dog. I am 
>> >> >> > very
>> >> >> > happy
>> >> >> > with the dogs and the service that I have received from Fidelco.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > There are a few people who have a negative opinion about Fidelco 
>> >> >> > on
>> >> >> > this
>> >> >> > list. I encourage you to take a look at the facts. The people who
>> >> >> > have
>> >> >> > complained about Fidelco have remained anonymous and none of the
>> >> >> > allegations
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > have been proven or substantiated.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I feel that when the truth of these matters eventually comes to 
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > surface
>> >> >> > you will probably not hear about it on this list. Many people 
>> >> >> > will
>> >> >> > be
>> >> >> > embarrassed and the faith that current NAGDU members have in 
>> >> >> > their
>> >> >> > leadership will be unforgettably shaken.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I am a strong supporter of Fidelco and what the organization 
>> >> >> > stands
>> >> >> > for.
>> >> >> > Please feel free to contact me off list at
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > bryanbrown at solarus.biz
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > if you would like to.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >    thanks,
>> >> >> >    Bryan
>> >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> >> > From: "reinhard stebner" <rwstebner at aol.com>
>> >> >> > To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> >> >> > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 8:40 AM
>> >> >> > Subject: [nagdu] fidelco guide dogs, what do you think of this
>> >> >> > organization
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> Good day to you,
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I just joined this list in hopes of getting opinions of Fidelco
>> >> >> >> guide
>> >> >> >> dogs.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> 1) What have you thought  about Fidelco dogs?  I recently say a
>> >> >> >> Braille
>> >> >> >> monitor article about one users bad experience with Fidelco.  I 
>> >> >> >> had
>> >> >> >> applied for a dog from them in February and was just approved to
>> >> >> >> get a
>> >> >> >> guide from them.  After reading the article, I have doubts if I
>> >> >> >> have
>> >> >> >> made
>> >> >> >> the correct decision with attending this guide school.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> 2) All of the dogs that I have seen from this school have been 
>> >> >> >> very
>> >> >> >> well
>> >> >> >> trained and respond well to their handlers.  I wanted a German
>> >> >> >> Shepherd
>> >> >> >> and did not have time to go to a traditional school.  I have had
>> >> >> >> poor
>> >> >> >> matches from other schools and wanted to give a smaller school a
>> >> >> >> try.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Any constructive feedback is welcome about guide dogs schools. 
>> >> >> >> I
>> >> >> >> want
>> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> make sure I am making the best possible decision and not have
>> >> >> >> issues
>> >> >> >> with
>> >> >> >> he school.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
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>> >> >> > biz
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
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