[nagdu] Mobility and Dogs

Sun Aug 21 10:54:26 UTC 2011

This is my own thinking and I often tell people when interested in getting a 
dog.

I tell them that I was a cane user first, and good at mobility. (Mobility is 
a big issue) Some people can't find there way around, if they can't do it 
with a cane or a dog, then what is the point.

Thinking that if you have good O & M then you can get around with a cane or 
dog confidently. Doctors tell people they need a dog not realizing that you 
need to know how to get to the place on your own, come on if you can't find 
your way to the Doctor then how is the dog suppose to know.

Good O and M first I tell them (Orientation and Mobility)

I also say, that if your dog gets sick or you are in the middle of a dog, or 
for whatever reason you are without the dog, why sit at home and wait for 
others, we should be independent and have alternate forms of mobility beside 
the dogs.

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeffrey Young" <jeff.young8806 at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 1:47 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Mobility and Dogs

> Of corse it's perfectly ok to use a dog, but their are always times, even 
> if they are few and far between, that a cane is necisary. EG the dog is 
> sick, or a person is in between dogs ETC. I would still want to be just as 
> effective with a cane as with a dog. I would hate to have a sick dog and 
> have to use my cane at work and have coworkers say something like, "well 
> he sure can't do much without his dog." Is being a terrible cane user a 
> crime? Probably not :), However why limit yourself just because you 
> wouldn't want to use a white stick. :)
> Jeff Young
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> On Aug 20, 2011, at 11:10 PM, Dan Weiner wrote:
>
> > And is being a terrible cane user a crime, Jeff?
> > If you can get around and do the stuff you need with either a dog or 
> > cane
> > why should it matter to you if someone is not good at using a cane to 
> > get
> > around?
> >
> > The guide dog and the cane are different, that's why some choose to use 
> > a
> > dog and some don't.--smile
> >
> >
> > Dan and Carter
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> > Behalf
> > Of Jeffrey Young
> > Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 10:36 PM
> > To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Mobility and Dogs
> >
> > At the Louisiana Center for the blind they require you to use a cane 
> > wile in
> > class, however they encourage you to check on the wellbeing of the dog 
> > and
> > to make sure the dog gets work outside of class. I've never had a 
> > problem
> > with this because I've met several dog users that were terrible cane 
> > users.
> > This isn't to say that all guide dog users are terrible cane users 
> > because I
> > know the majority of us are competent cane travelers.
> > Jeff Young
> >
> > Home of the world's healthiest energy drink. No Caffeine, no added 
> > sugar.
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> >
> > On Aug 20, 2011, at 8:29 PM, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
> >
> >> Just curious, has anyone heard of mobility instructors iether being 
> >> afraid
> > of dogs or trying to get dogs taken away from others because they think 
> > they
> > shouldn't use them?  I've heard in Arkansas that they have both things 
> > going
> > on.  I've also heard that at some of the NFB training centers they limit
> > your dog use because they think you need a cane.  My own belief at the
> > moment is at the NFB centers at least they want to make sure that you 
> > can
> > get around without your dog which is good but I sure hope they don't try 
> > to
> > separate the team entirely!
> >> Intelligence is always claimed but rarely proven!
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