[nagdu] things that go bump in the night

Larry D. Keeler lkeeler at comcast.net
Fri Dec 23 00:13:53 UTC 2011


Well, Cindy even paranoia sometimes is a good thing.  Sometimes a situation 
sure looks like exactly what it is!  I don't reason with my survival 
instincts though!  Usually, whatever the reason, they are the first things 
to use to get out of those tight spots!  At least in my case, I am still 
here to have the luxury of speculating!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] things that go bump in the night


> OK, but that is what they are doing. They are not following proper driver 
> etiquette or safety rules. They are not out to get a blind guy. I just 
> think that when we start down that path, we can become too paranoid. There 
> are plenty of other instances where people really don't care if we have 
> our needs met and where they truly think we are incapable and on and on. I 
> certainly am not saying stuff like that doesn't happen; I'm just saying 
> that that is a rather iffy path to take saying they are out to get a blind 
> guy.
>
> Cindy
>
> On Dec 22, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
>
>> Well, Cindy, if a car comes roaring out while I am crossing, I kind of 
>> assume they can see that I'm crossing!  Especially when I hear it pull 
>> out of the lot and get into the lane I'm currently occupying!  If they 
>> weren't triing to hit me they wer sure not following proper driver 
>> edicate!  They should have seen me before they pulled out and for sure 
>> when they started moving down the road!  They were also speeding out of 
>> there!
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 4:19 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] things that go bump in the night
>>
>>
>>> How do you guys know that someone tried to hit you on purpose? What cues 
>>> do you have about it? Do they hate dogs? Did you seem to look funny to 
>>> them right then? How do you know these people aren't just flakes and 
>>> that a sighted person equally flaky could have been walking along and 
>>> almost gotten hit or, in fact did? As for people trying to drag you by 
>>> the other end of your cane or the harness, that is rather different. I 
>>> actually had the harness thing happen to me the other night. I am not 
>>> sure I ever had before. Another woman there was about as offended as I 
>>> was.
>>>
>>> Cindy
>>>
>>> On Dec 22, 2011, at 3:15 PM, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sounds kind of familiar!  I've had folks pick my cane up off the ground 
>>>> and try to tug me along, pull my dog and I away from something they 
>>>> thaught we'd run into and once even someone who tried to hit me on 
>>>> purpose!  Sure keeps you awake and alert!
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "harold leigland" 
>>>> <hleigland at bresnan.net>
>>>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 1:08 PM
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] things that go bump in the night
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> using a cane or dog has been an adventure for me; when our son was 4 
>>>>> we were both hit and knocked down by a drunk soldier from the base in 
>>>>> his suv not seriously injured and saved the 2 12 packs of coke I had 
>>>>> with us. The other day someone kept trying to back over me and Sam my 
>>>>> guide dog in our apartment parking lot aint life grand? merry 
>>>>> Christmass and better new year hal
>>>>>
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