[nagdu] things that go bump in the night

[Cindy Ray]

I think you are totally misinterpreting what I am saying. I am not saying that these things don't happen or that you should consider whether the event is leveled at you or not. I am saying that at the end of the day they are not about you. The ones where people roll down the window, say you can go and then gun their engines and laugh, yes, those are cruel. Often those I should think would be young people who have nothing better to do. Those people are, in fact, probably doing as you say they are. Anyway, nut said by me.
Cindy

On Dec 22, 2011, at 6:13 PM, Larry D. Keeler wrote:

> Well, Cindy even paranoia sometimes is a good thing.  Sometimes a situation sure looks like exactly what it is!  I don't reason with my survival instincts though!  Usually, whatever the reason, they are the first things to use to get out of those tight spots!  At least in my case, I am still here to have the luxury of speculating!
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
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>> OK, but that is what they are doing. They are not following proper driver etiquette or safety rules. They are not out to get a blind guy. I just think that when we start down that path, we can become too paranoid. There are plenty of other instances where people really don't care if we have our needs met and where they truly think we are incapable and on and on. I certainly am not saying stuff like that doesn't happen; I'm just saying that that is a rather iffy path to take saying they are out to get a blind guy.
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>> Cindy
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>> On Dec 22, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
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>>> Well, Cindy, if a car comes roaring out while I am crossing, I kind of assume they can see that I'm crossing!  Especially when I hear it pull out of the lot and get into the lane I'm currently occupying!  If they weren't triing to hit me they wer sure not following proper driver edicate!  They should have seen me before they pulled out and for sure when they started moving down the road!  They were also speeding out of there!
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
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>>>> How do you guys know that someone tried to hit you on purpose? What cues do you have about it? Do they hate dogs? Did you seem to look funny to them right then? How do you know these people aren't just flakes and that a sighted person equally flaky could have been walking along and almost gotten hit or, in fact did? As for people trying to drag you by the other end of your cane or the harness, that is rather different. I actually had the harness thing happen to me the other night. I am not sure I ever had before. Another woman there was about as offended as I was.
>>>> 
>>>> Cindy
>>>> 
>>>> On Dec 22, 2011, at 3:15 PM, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Sounds kind of familiar!  I've had folks pick my cane up off the ground and try to tug me along, pull my dog and I away from something they thaught we'd run into and once even someone who tried to hit me on purpose!  Sure keeps you awake and alert!
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "harold leigland" <hleigland at bresnan.net>
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>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 1:08 PM
>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] things that go bump in the night
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>>>>> 
>>>>>> using a cane or dog has been an adventure for me; when our son was 4 we were both hit and knocked down by a drunk soldier from the base in his suv not seriously injured and saved the 2 12 packs of coke I had with us. The other day someone kept trying to back over me and Sam my guide dog in our apartment parking lot aint life grand? merry Christmass and better new year hal
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