[nagdu] Access problems in San Diego

[Marion Gwizdala]

Lyn,
    After you educate the police department about the criminal remedies 
available under California statute, make another visit to this place of 
business. When you are denied again, file another complaint, contacting the 
media for some help raising awareness and bringing law enforcement to task. 
If this doesn't work, get someone else to go to that place of business. Keep 
it up until they get it!

Fraternally yours,
Marion Gwizdala



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Owens, Parker" <Parker.Owens at EKU.EDU>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
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Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Access problems in San Diego


> I'm not really sure, but I believe at this point you have to contact a 
> lawyer and sue.
>
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
> Of Lyn Gwizdak
> Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 12:50 PM
> To: NFBnet NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: [nagdu] Access problems in San Diego
>
>
> Marion,
> Below is a response my friend, Lisa, got from the police here when she 
> asked them what recourse we had in response to an access denial in a 
> business here.
>
> She emailed the officer on my behalf after I told her about an incident of 
> denial of access in this guy's business because of my guide dog. the guy 
> appeared to be Arab by his accent and he didn't care if he was violating 
> the law - NO DOG.  I called my City Councilmember.  they gave me the 
> number for San Diego Disability coordinator's office.  they said they only 
> intervene if the access denial happened in a City owned building or 
> office.  they told me to go to the State AG office.  They were no help 
> either - no real person to talk to and no way to get one.  I called the 
> State CCB office and got someone from their guide dog grooup.  they told 
> me to talk to our police department.  And this below is their response to 
> the incident.
>
> "the situation you described is not criminal and that is what the Police 
> Department deals with, Criminal matters.  What your friend is experiencing 
> is a Civil matter.  I attached some basic laws that your friend with the 
> Guide Dog should know or have been told.  These are very common laws that 
> even businesses should be aware of.  There is a number at the bottom you 
> can call for more help.  Good luck!
>
>
> Luis A. Roman
> "Louie"
> Community Liaison Officer (820s) & Facilities
> Mid-City Division, San Diego Police Dept.
> 4310 Landis Street, MS-785
> San Diego, CA. 92105
> Desk: (619) 516-3038
> Fax:   (619) 516-3058
> lroman at pd.sandiego.gov<mailto:lroman at pd.sandiego.gov> "
>
>
>
> This officer then attached a copy of a "Question and Answer" thing from 
> the ADA.
>
>
>
> My question is how to enforce the law here????  The incident occured in 
> early December while I was downtown before an appointment.  The store 
> owner now thinks it's OK to keep service dogs out and that it is OK to do 
> as he pleases in regards to obeying the laws of this country.
>
>
>
> Any California listers who read this - what do you recommend I do?
>
>
>
> Lyn and Landon
>
> 619-405-5554
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