[nagdu] Discrimination

Thu Jul 21 01:47:25 UTC 2011

Hi everyone,

Part of the challenge with any civil rights law, is that we as individuals
who are protected by these laws, become the enforcers, educators, and
excuses as to why this continues to occur.  Unfortunately, there no ADA or
similar Civil Rights police that go out and do this, and sometimes as many
of us know, it is a shot in the dark even if law enforcement even know and
understand the laws.  So, the more we continue to make these issues public,
the greater the awareness to the problems that still occur decades after the
original law's passage.  

JMO,

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Dan Weiner
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 10:55 AM
To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Discrimination

Rebecca, I agree with you totally and get your point.
I have often said on these lists that it's a sad commentary on our situation
as blind people that, after more than eighty years of guide dog training
here in the USA, we still need to worry about access.
That isn't to say, of course, that I don't applaud 		 and other
consumer organizations who are taking up the gauntlet on this issue.

Cordially,

Dan and the Carter Nut

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of PICKRELL, REBECCA M (TASC)
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 11:50 AM
To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Discrimination

Referring to Marion's post on committing the NAGDU hotline to memory, is
anybody else bothered by the fact that this even has to be done? 
I have very few phone numbers stored in my head, mostly due to the fact that
my cell phone stores numbers.  So, my point is that a number must both be
really important, and be used a whole heck of a lot for me to have it in my
head.  
Nobody in this day and age should have a need to use NAGDU's hotline that
frequently. 
See the problem, guys? 

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of PICKRELL, REBECCA M (TASC)
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 11:09 AM
To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Discrimination

Gloria,
I'm curious, why are you worried about this now? Is there a deeper issue? 
I ask because it never crossed my mind to worry about this issue. Maybe that
was because I was young and niaeve. 
Access issues suck, so I'm curious to know why you'd choose to get a dog if
this weighs heavily on you. 

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Gloria G
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 5:25 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Discrimination

Thanks Julie. Your thoughts were helpful.
Gloria
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Discrimination

> Gloria,
>
> For me, no, I extremely rarely have issues of discrimination because of my

> guide dog.  Well, I rarely have descrimination issues of any variety.  I 
> honestly have no idea if this is because I am a scary person, the area I 
> live, my particular dog, the specific places I go or some other factor. 
> Others experience access issues more often than I do, but I wouldn't say 
> it's routine for any of us.
>
> There are lots and lots of people and resources available to assist you 
> with an access issue should one come up.  My best advice is don't worry 
> about and deal with it if one should come up.  That's all you can do. 
> *smile*
>
> Julie
>
>
>
> On 7/19/2011 1:32 PM, Gloria G wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I was wondering if many of you have experienced discrimination because 
>> you were guide dog users? I mean is it pretty common for buisnesses to 
>> refuse you service or make negative commants because of your guide, if so

>> please describe the situation and explain how you handled it if you would

>> like? Thanks!
>> Gloria
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