[nagdu] Local business asks service dog to leave

[Tamara Smith-Kinney]

Hm...  So if the dog's natural alerting behaviors are reinforced through
praise, etc., then that's training with applied operant conditioning.  Or so
it seems to me.  I'm not the one who would get to decide whether the dog
qualifies as being specifically trained, so my opinion is worth the paper
it's written on.  I do wonder about that facet of defining a service dogs in
cases like this one.

I don't get the bit with the tags, either.  Something's fishy somewhere!

That being said, it does seem to me the clinic was in error and violated
this man's civil rights.  Unless the dog was a dirty scurvy cur, but the
article does not mention that.

Tami Smith-Kinney

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Meghan Whalen
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 7:32 AM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Local business asks service dog to leave

That is a valid point Marion.  If the dog's alerting response is untrained, 
does that mean the dog cannot be a service dog?  Don't most dogs who alert 
to such things just do it out of instinct?  I'm really not sure, but I do 
think that if they respond, whether trained or untrained, that capability is

benefiting the handler.  This is all, of course, if the gentleman in 
question has a documented disability or if he has self-diagnosed, which is 
not necessarily entirely invalid, but is not sufficient defense to take 
legal action.

There are so many loopholes and what-ifs, and I wish people weren't so good 
at finding them.

Meghan 


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