[nagdu] Do you ever get angry with our dogs and howtocontroleit?

Lyn Gwizdak linda.gwizdak at cox.net
Sun Mar 6 00:59:55 UTC 2011


Like me in my 20s.  I was quite the rabble rouser back then - but I can 
still hold my own when needed.

I'm glad Landon and Bernie are friends and have fun when they can.

Lyn and Landon
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lisa Irving" <lirving1234 at cox.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Do you ever get angry with our dogs and 
howtocontroleit?


> Our boys sure can be hellions, can't they? They're like their handlers, 
> huh?
>
> Lisa and Bernie
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Lyn Gwizdak" <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 12:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Do you ever get angry with our dogs and how 
> tocontroleit?
>
>
>> Hi Lisa,
>>>From literature I've read, they seem to feel dogs do not have the 
>>>capacity
>> to feel guilt - purely a human trait!  Usually when dogs display what we 
>> interpret as guilt, the dog is reacting to our anger at what they did and 
>> they are actually doing submissive behaviors.  They know they've pissed 
>> off the boss.  What has anyone else read about this?
>>
>> An example:  You left the dog home to do an activity and the dog gets 
>> upset at being left behind and he chews your favorite slippers - ahem! 
>> Landon and Bernies' bout with my slippers last week!  Then you come home 
>> to find all this fluffy stuff - the shredded slippers - and you get upset 
>> and LOOK upset. The dog starts to do appeasment behavior which we 
>> interpret as guilt.
>>
>> People do this as well only we feel the guilt because we know we did 
>> wrong. Dogs are masters at reading body language and eye contact very 
>> well. But they don't feel guilt - only "Oh sh*t, he or she's really mad 
>> at something and it's directed at me!!!"
>>
>> Bernie and Landon are incorrigable!!!  They destroyed my slippers when 
>> they no longer had the rope toy which they destroyed earlier.  LOL! No 
>> worries, I didn't like those slippers anyway and they didn't get the ones 
>> I do wear.  I should hire out Landon to test dog toys to see if they 
>> really are indestructable!  The only toys I have for Landon is his 
>> NylaKnot that he got at Seeing Eye. He does chew it down so he's had 
>> three since we left Seeing Eye and I bought new ones for him.
>>
>> Lyn and Landon
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Lisa Irving" <lirving1234 at cox.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 4:45 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Do you ever get angry with our dogs and how to 
>> controleit?
>>
>>
>>> Wow! You really sound very genuine and quite loving. You're doing just 
>>> fine. Our dog guides are, at times, just like precocious children. Even 
>>> reasonable and caring parents blow a gasket  occasionally.
>>>
>>> I get irritated, and sometimes, quite riled at Bernie's behavior. The 
>>> door swings both ways. I'm guessing he gets annoyed and vexed at me too. 
>>> We get over things pretty quickly. I don't know if Bernie is able to 
>>> experience what guilt feels like. I do guilty quite well for the both of 
>>> us. Really, BREATH slowly and evenly, and do what you're doing.
>>>
>>> Lisa and Bernie
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Ioana Gandrabur" <igandrabur at gmx.de>
>>> To: "NFBnet NAGDU Mailing List" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 12:41 PM
>>> Subject: [nagdu] Do you ever get angry with our dogs and how to controle 
>>> it?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I just had a frustrating incident with Loyal exactly repeated 2 days in 
>>>> a row. First time I was annoyed, next time I got upset but tried to not 
>>>> act angry.
>>>> He just did his nr 2 and I was trying to position myself to mark the 
>>>> place when this small barky dog comes along. Loyal who basically never 
>>>> lurches towards other dogs in harness decides to dash towards it and I 
>>>> fell on my butt luckily not in the stuff I was supposed to pick up. I 
>>>> made him sit and accepted that I would not be picking up that time.
>>>>
>>>> Today the exact same thing happens except I did not fall. I did 
>>>> obedience and tried to act calm but I was really angry for some minutes 
>>>> and also being upset at myself for being angry because Loyal is really 
>>>> so willing to please and easily affected by my mood.
>>>> How do you deal with being irritated with your dog?
>>>>
>>>> Take care and thanks for listening to my rambling.
>>>>
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