[nagdu] commands

Mon Nov 7 03:39:43 UTC 2011

The story about the boy reminds me of one that involved a pet.  The pets 
name was Black Boy.  He was a jet black chihuahua.  He had a habit of 
sneaking outside and going anywhere he chose!  One night, it was a warm, 
dark night in Northeast Kalamazoo.  My Mom was a strawberry blonde with 
really light, freckly skin.  She was helping our friend who owned the dog 
look for him.  The friend was African-American and why she named her dog 
Black Boy I'll never know!  Anyway, My Mom was going down the street 
hollering, Black Boy!! at the top of her lungs!  This really dark pigment 
black man turned around.  My Mom said he was really tall and muscular!  He 
asked if Mom was calling him!  He then laughed as my Mom's face turned as 
red as one of those big red heat bulbs!!  Sometimes I do apologize and 
sometimes I don't.  I used to feel funny about saying, "good girl!: or 
saying that and using her name sence I've ran into a couple of hollys, but 
now, not so much.  If they can't see that I'm talking to the dog and they 
just say something first, well they get embarrassed.  Also, some trainers 
don't believe in using the dogs name in public if you don't have to because 
other folks will use it.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marsha Drenth" <marsha.drenth at gmail.com>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
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Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 10:09 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] commands


> List,
>
> We are focusing on the fact that people do or do not apologize way too 
> much.
> I stated what I did, because that is who I am. So I apologize, so what?
> Others make a funny joke out of it, so what? It is how we deal with
> different situations that make us all different.
>
> My original question was more of a inquiry to see if the situation happens
> to others, and how they deal with it. Lets be a bit more understanding and
> tolerant in the way people deal with different situations. This does not
> just apply to this subject, but many that come up on this list.
>
> Marsha
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Cindy Ray
> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 7:38 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] commands
>
> I don't think that makes the other person feel foolish, nor do I think 
> they
> feel any need to apologize for their own assumptions.
>
> Today someone asked me my dog's name. I said it was Fisher, and they asked
> me if he likes fish. Hmph, I don't know. LOL.
> Cindy
>
> On Nov 6, 2011, at 6:20 PM, Julie Phillipson wrote:
>
>> well this is an interesting topic.  It leaves some room for a humorous
> exchange between you and the other person involved and opens the door for
> some interaction and education.  How about instead of apologizing you just
> say *"Oh know I was talking to my dog*."I would think it would nudge the
> person into feeling pretty foolish and owing you, an apology.  What I find
> curious is why do we feel like we are always the one's that are some how 
> at
> fault and need to do the apologizing?  Just my thoughts.  I've had this
> happen before but its not been a big deal and no I don't apologize for
> talking to my dog.  It would be like someone talking to their child and me
> thinking they were talking to me.  Just a simple mistake.  .
>>
>> Julie Phillipson
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marsha Drenth"
> <marsha.drenth at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 9:58 AM
>> Subject: [nagdu] commands
>>
>>
>>> Hi List,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> There was something mentioned on another list that sparked a very
>>> interesting subject for me. Here is a situation for example. I am at
> school,
>>> or out in the city or just traveling. Emma is sniffing something, and I
> tell
>>> her to leave it, not in a loud voice but in a firm voice. I try to tell
> her
>>> in a voice that she can only hear and that will not draw attention to 
>>> me.
>>> But to my surprise there is someone around. And they think I am speaking
> to
>>> them, to leave me and my dog alone. I am not speaking to them, but they
>>> become offended. Then I have to apologize.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Does anyone else have this happen? Or am I the only one?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Emma comes from the Seeing Eye, I use commands like: Leave it, Hop up,
>>> Fouie, Right, left, inside and outside are just some of the commands I
> use.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If the above situation happens to you? How do you handle this? And if it
>>> does not how do you give your pup commands?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I think the next dog I receive I will be teaching and then using 
>>> commands
> in
>>> another language. My reasons for this, that if I tell my dog a command, 
>>> I
>>> also do not want others to know what I am telling her to do. As some of
> the
>>> sighted people around me have said, "No, no don't correct your dog, she
> is
>>> being good." Or "no, no you need to go here or there, you should go to
> the
>>> elevator."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Interesting topic for discussion,
>>>
>>> Marsha
>>>
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