[nagdu] some advice

Tami Kinney tamara.8024 at comcast.net
Sat Sep 10 15:07:24 UTC 2011


You got more space on that soapbox? I'll gladly jump onto it with you.
Good grief! 

Tami

On Fri, 2011-09-09 at 21:01 -0400, Larry D. Keeler wrote: 
> I am of the opinion these days that some parents don't train the kids half 
> as well as the dogs are trained!  When I grew up, I learned to respect dogs. 
> I learned not to hurt them or mess with there food.  If I did that, well, I 
> might get bitten.  If I did, it was almost always my fault.  Lately however, 
> if anything can bite nobody wants it or the responsibility of it.  Perfect 
> example is the humane society.  Those people purposely annoy dogs to see if 
> they'll bite!  If they do then its off to be euthanized.  For some of those 
> dogs they would just need to make sure they went to folks who would respect 
> them and work with them.  I guess they don't want to get sued or anything 
> because some stupid kid anoys the dog to make it bite!  I'm not saying that 
> all of those humane society dogs can be trained or aught to be with people 
> but I have observed that most probblems that those dogs have are 
> psychological and caused by us humans who are supposed to be there frinds 
> and protectors.  It seems to me to be unfair that if a kid pokes, hits or 
> steals a dogs food he usually gets off the hook and if the dog defends 
> himself against it well he gets scrapped!  I'll jump off the soap box for 
> now but the point is that kids should be taught to respect dogs and dogs 
> should be taught to respect us.  It isn't that difficault!
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Chantel Cuddemi" <jawsgirl87 at gmail.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 8:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] some advice
> 
> 
> Shannon,
> Sean came to visit me with Archie not too long ago and they saw first-hand
> what living with a guide dog would be like.
> They told me every time Archie barked it would scare Lola my friend's
> grandchild.
> 
> 
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> aim: scholarmistress
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Shannon Dyer
> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 8:23 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] some advice
> 
> Have they had bad experiences with other people's guide dogs? I know some
> people are just generally worried about these things, but I'm wondering why
> they're so convinced this will happen.
> 
> I hope you're able to find a place to live so that you can have your dog. I
> wish you the best of luck.
> 
> Shannon and Caroline
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> On Sep 9, 2011, at 6:37 PM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote:
> 
> > Shannon,
> > I have tried to convince the people here that the dog wouldn't snap at
> their
> > child but it's not working. They're not saying I can't have a guide dog,
> > they just don't want me living here with one.
> > Moving, unfortunately, is something that I might have to do in this case.
> >
> > Email: jawsgirl87 at gmail.com
> >
> > facebook: jawsgirl87 at gmail.com
> >
> > Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jawsgirl87
> >
> > skype: leogirl48
> >
> > msn: jawsgirl87 at gmail.com
> >
> > aim: scholarmistress
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> > Of Shannon Dyer
> > Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 6:32 PM
> > To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] some advice
> >
> > People asking questions doesn't mean they don't want a dog. Not everyone
> > knows everything for certain without seeking advice from others. Often,
> it's
> > helpful to gain insight from other people who may have been in a similar
> > situation.
> >
> > Chantal, have you talked to those you live with, explaining to them
> exactly
> > why you think a dog is the right choice? If so, do they seem at all
> > receptive to the idea? I know, when i got my first dog, I was living at
> home
> > with my parents. My dad was a huge dog lover, but my mom, not so much. So,
> > it took some convincing. Once she met my dog, and saw that there weren't
> any
> > serious problems, she got used to the idea.
> >
> > If people are totally unreceptive to the idea of a dog in the house, how
> > easy would it be for you to move? Moving is not something to be done
> > lightly. It takes a lot of time and money, plus the resources to keep
> > yourself afloat once you've moved. Is this something that is possible for
> > you to do?
> >
> > I hope you can work things out. Don't stop asking questions. The majority
> of
> > people on this list are happy to help you without being judgmental.
> >
> > Shannon and Caroline
> > Are you a fan of women's music? If so, join me each Thursday from noon
> until
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> >
> > On Sep 9, 2011, at 5:42 PM, Nimer M. Jaber, IC³ wrote:
> >
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> Nope, you shouldn't. In fact, you shouldn't get a dog at all. ust my
> >> opinion. Now, I'll tell you why.
> >>
> >> First, your grandmother has every right to refuse access to any animal
> >> in her house while you're still living with her. So you won't be able
> >> to impose your will on them. I guess you could try explaining to them
> >> the use that a dog would be to you and that they are highly trained
> >> not to be aggressive and to be calm and all that, but I doubt it would
> >> work.
> >>
> >> Second point: You don't want a dog. If you did, you wouldn't be
> >> getting on this list asking a bunch of people you don't know for
> >> advice. If you want a dog bad enough, you would not deal with someone
> >> else imposing their will on you. Instead, you would save up the money,
> >> become independent, establish alternate living arrangements and then
> >> pursue getting a dog. The fact that you have to ask on this list means
> >> that you aren't certain about wanting a dog. A dog is a huge
> >> responsibility but it's one that I wouldn't trade for anything. It's
> >> up to you to do the research, however, to make absolutely certain that
> >> this is what you want to do if you want to do it. A dog is a living,
> >> breathing animal. A dog is not a pet, a stuffed animal or a lovey
> >> cuddly object that you can dress up in doll's clothes.
> >>
> >> Thanks, and I hope I didn't offend anyone too badly with my bluntness.
> >>
> >> Nimer J
> >>
> >> On 09.09.2011, Chantel Cuddemi <jawsgirl87 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> I need some advice. I am not sure what to do here. I am trying to
> > convince
> >>> my friend that I am staying with her grandchild won't get hurt by my
> > future
> >>> guide dog, but she and her kids have voted against me having one her at
> > this
> >>> house.
> >>>
> >>> Should I consider moving to another area then get a dog? Please help.
> >>>
> >>> Chantel.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Email: jawsgirl87 at gmail.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> facebook: jawsgirl87 at gmail.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jawsgirl87
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> skype: leogirl48
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> msn: jawsgirl87 at gmail.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> aim: scholarmistress
> >>>
> >>>
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