[nagdu] some advice

Cindy Ray cindyray at gmail.com
Tue Sep 13 17:35:36 UTC 2011 

Oh, Dan, you won't never be a mom. LOL. And it all does pass. It is a worry, but it is also beautiful.

CindΩy
On Sep 13, 2011, at 10:50 AM, Dan Weiner wrote:

> I tell you my friend, the more you describe what it's like to be a Mom the
> more I'm getting convinced I don't want kids.
> 
> Sorry about Mellie's cold.
> 
> Now, I suppose it's a question of people being able to understand and
> respect other peoples' needs, at this point, not having been around kids for
> quite some time, I find myself being annoyed every time I'm around one
> because I'm just not used to it.
> But, if I'm at my brother's house, for example, I realize it's his family
> and I deal with it as best I can just secretly congratulating myself on
> being able to go home with the dog and without the kids--smile
> 
> 
> Dan the man, Carter the nut
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [		] On Behalf Of Pickrell,
> Rebecca M (TASC)
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 11:07 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] some advice
> 
> To explain the other side a bit.
> My preschooler daughter loves dogs. So do I.  She also has a cold right now.
> A few things happen when she has a cold. The first is that she cries more,
> things that normally don't upset her do.  So I spend a lot of time calming
> her down.
> Second, she gets into coughing fits that sometimes make her throw up. She's
> getting better about getting to the potty to throw up, but she doesn't
> always make it.
> 
> Saturday night, she didn't sleep well.  I was okay with that as I was very
> excited about the events of the past day and had trouble settling down
> myself.
> Sunday night, she threw up at like 1 in the morning after a coughing fit,
> one that I had to listen to and figure out if I could stop it or if this one
> just had to run its course. So, she throws up, I put her in the tub while
> husband cleans the floor. I make the mistake of letting her have her bath
> toys and bubbles. She becomes obsessed with "washing ducky" a task that will
> *never* end. I finally convince her to get out of the tub by telling her
> I've never seen tv at two in the morning and wouldn't it be fun to go see
> what's on.  The tv time was needed because she needed a nebulizer treatment,
> a treatment that takes a good 20 minutes.  The machine is very loud, so I
> sit with her partly to provide comfort, partly to monitor that the little
> monster keeps the mask over her face and stays still.  She was very tired so
> while I was trying to help her get dressed after her bath, she cried and
> told me she was cold and wasn't very interested in helping the process go
> smoothly.
> When she gets colds, she needs at least two 20 treatments a day. She also
> usually gets an ear infection which means she's in pain.  I've been told by
> several nurses that the hours between midnight and 4 in the morning are the
> worst for ill people, they feel pain more and it takes more to comfort them.
> 
> So, I finally get my daughter and myself back to bed after giving her some
> milk. Needless to say, I barely functioned yesterday.
> Last night was a repeat version of Sunday night, though I was able to speed
> up the bath process.
> 
> 
> I say all this because if somebody asked me today "Can I get a guide dog and
> live with you" I'd spaz.  I just don't have it in me now.  The hours between
> five and eight a.m. were the best sleep we had. A dog barking at that time
> would have sent me over the edge. A mom doesn't get to go home at the end of
> the day or night and the past two nights have been long ones at my house.
> 
> Sounds like there are other issues then just the dog, but I say al this to
> explain that I love dogs, my daughter would love it if a dog came to live
> with us, and especially if the dog got to go hang out with us when we went
> out, but as the mom, I say no
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Dan Weiner
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 10:48 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] some advice
> 
> Well, oh my God, adog barking, never heard of such a thing--smile.
> 
> Well, if you need to live with them for whatever reason deal with it as best
> you can but if it were me and I could, I'd get out.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Chantel Cuddemi
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 10:02 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] some advice
> 
> I actually changed her diaper once with some verbal prompting since I hadn't
> done it before. The truth is, after Sean and Archie came to visit me just a
> few weeks ago, they told me afterwords that because of how Archie barked and
> scared Lola and because of the shedding, they don't want me living here with
> a guide dog.
> Sean, I'm sorry for bringing this up on list but I had to tell the others
> what was happening.
> Chantel.
> 
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> aim: scholarmistress
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 9:34 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] some advice
> 
> Because babies move around and so do dogs and you can't always predict what
> they will do.
> The baby is her responsibility yes, but it sounds like she's letting you
> live there. And let's say your dog pees on the floor. While she should tell
> you to get it cleaned up, let's say your in the shower. She's going to clean
> up the mess so baby won't get in it. It's just what we moms do.
> Actually, the model of "Your responsibility and my responsibility" is the
> problem. Everybody lives in the house, everybody takes care of each other.
> Maybe that's the problem? I'd hope that if the baby needed to be held or fed
> or a diaper change, you'd do that if mama was in the middle of something.
> If not, well, the dog is not really the issue here.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Cindy Ray
> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 3:42 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] some advice
> 
> Well, the baby is her responsibility, and how would the baby get hurt.
> Anyway, I think that's a good decision on your part.
> On Sep 12, 2011, at 1:05 PM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote:
> 
>> Lisa,
>> There is a baby in the house who is three months old.
>> She's going to start crawling soon and my friend doesn't want her to 
>> get hurt. Plus, they don't want to deal with the shedding.
>> I've tried to explain that the dog would be my responsibility and that 
>> I'd make sure nothing happened to the baby but I am not going to 
>> bother trying anymore. She knows where I stand I know where she stnds 
>> so
> I'll move.
>> 
>> Email: jawsgirl87 at gmail.com
>> 
>> facebook: jawsgirl87 at gmail.com
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>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jawsgirl87
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>> skype: leogirl48
>> 
>> msn: jawsgirl87 at gmail.com
>> 
>> aim: scholarmistress
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Lisa belville
>> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 10:07 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] some advice
>> 
>> Hi, chantel.
>> 
>> This sounds like a no win situation for you and the future dog.  It 
>> sounds like they're not open to learning about dogs, let alone coming 
>> to a compromise, so yes, as everyone else has said, it's time to find 
>> another place to live and try to move on.  If this person is a good 
>> friend,
> forcing
>> the issue might strain the situation further.
>> 
>> How old are the "kids" who also voted to not have the dog in their house?
>> Are these adult children with children of their own who will be at the
> house
>> 
>> with you and your dog or are they minor children?  I guess this is 
>> just a difference in parenting, but I wouldn't have been given the 
>> option to have someone who was already living with us voted out of the 
>> house because I didn't like something.  It sounds like your friend is 
>> a bit apprehensive, and her children are just adding to the fears by 
>> putting pressure on her about the thought of a nasty vicious dog in 
>> her house.  And yes, that last sentence was sarcasm.
>> 
>> Most of the schools are happy to educate friends and family about a 
>> dog,
> but
>> 
>> even in the best of circumstances, coming home with a new dog is 
>> stressful enough without having to worry about how others in the house 
>> will react to the dog.  And then there's the whole aspect of a new dog 
>> learning the
> rules
>> with a new handler, and this can sometimes give people on the outside 
>> the wrong ideas about how guide dogs should behave.
>> 
>> I hope you can find a living situation that's more receptive to life 
>> with
> a
>> dog.
>> 
>> Lisa
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> It seems I have 3 personalities. One that has a plan, one that 
>> completely screws up the plan, and one that says "what the hell 
>> happened to the
> plan?"
>> Lisa Belville
>> missktlab1217 at frontier.com
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Chantel Cuddemi" <jawsgirl87 at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 4:34 PM
>> Subject: [nagdu] some advice
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I need some advice. I am not sure what to do here. I am trying to
> convince
>>> my friend that I am staying with her grandchild won't get hurt by my 
>>> future guide dog, but she and her kids have voted against me having 
>>> one her at this house.
>>> 
>>> Should I consider moving to another area then get a dog? Please help.
>>> 
>>> Chantel.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Email: jawsgirl87 at gmail.com
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