[nagdu] some advice

Tue Sep 13 21:35:22 UTC 2011

I don't know!  I still get Mothers day calls!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] some advice


> Oh, Dan, you won't never be a mom. LOL. And it all does pass. It is a 
> worry, but it is also beautiful.
>
> CindΩy
> On Sep 13, 2011, at 10:50 AM, Dan Weiner wrote:
>
>> I tell you my friend, the more you describe what it's like to be a Mom 
>> the
>> more I'm getting convinced I don't want kids.
>>
>> Sorry about Mellie's cold.
>>
>> Now, I suppose it's a question of people being able to understand and
>> respect other peoples' needs, at this point, not having been around kids 
>> for
>> quite some time, I find myself being annoyed every time I'm around one
>> because I'm just not used to it.
>> But, if I'm at my brother's house, for example, I realize it's his family
>> and I deal with it as best I can just secretly congratulating myself on
>> being able to go home with the dog and without the kids--smile
>>
>>
>> Dan the man, Carter the nut
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [ ] On Behalf Of Pickrell,
>> Rebecca M (TASC)
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 11:07 AM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] some advice
>>
>> To explain the other side a bit.
>> My preschooler daughter loves dogs. So do I.  She also has a cold right 
>> now.
>> A few things happen when she has a cold. The first is that she cries 
>> more,
>> things that normally don't upset her do.  So I spend a lot of time 
>> calming
>> her down.
>> Second, she gets into coughing fits that sometimes make her throw up. 
>> She's
>> getting better about getting to the potty to throw up, but she doesn't
>> always make it.
>>
>> Saturday night, she didn't sleep well.  I was okay with that as I was 
>> very
>> excited about the events of the past day and had trouble settling down
>> myself.
>> Sunday night, she threw up at like 1 in the morning after a coughing fit,
>> one that I had to listen to and figure out if I could stop it or if this 
>> one
>> just had to run its course. So, she throws up, I put her in the tub while
>> husband cleans the floor. I make the mistake of letting her have her bath
>> toys and bubbles. She becomes obsessed with "washing ducky" a task that 
>> will
>> *never* end. I finally convince her to get out of the tub by telling her
>> I've never seen tv at two in the morning and wouldn't it be fun to go see
>> what's on.  The tv time was needed because she needed a nebulizer 
>> treatment,
>> a treatment that takes a good 20 minutes.  The machine is very loud, so I
>> sit with her partly to provide comfort, partly to monitor that the little
>> monster keeps the mask over her face and stays still.  She was very tired 
>> so
>> while I was trying to help her get dressed after her bath, she cried and
>> told me she was cold and wasn't very interested in helping the process go
>> smoothly.
>> When she gets colds, she needs at least two 20 treatments a day. She also
>> usually gets an ear infection which means she's in pain.  I've been told 
>> by
>> several nurses that the hours between midnight and 4 in the morning are 
>> the
>> worst for ill people, they feel pain more and it takes more to comfort 
>> them.
>>
>> So, I finally get my daughter and myself back to bed after giving her 
>> some
>> milk. Needless to say, I barely functioned yesterday.
>> Last night was a repeat version of Sunday night, though I was able to 
>> speed
>> up the bath process.
>>
>>
>> I say all this because if somebody asked me today "Can I get a guide dog 
>> and
>> live with you" I'd spaz.  I just don't have it in me now.  The hours 
>> between
>> five and eight a.m. were the best sleep we had. A dog barking at that 
>> time
>> would have sent me over the edge. A mom doesn't get to go home at the end 
>> of
>> the day or night and the past two nights have been long ones at my house.
>>
>> Sounds like there are other issues then just the dog, but I say al this 
>> to
>> explain that I love dogs, my daughter would love it if a dog came to live
>> with us, and especially if the dog got to go hang out with us when we 
>> went
>> out, but as the mom, I say no
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Dan Weiner
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 10:48 AM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] some advice
>>
>> Well, oh my God, adog barking, never heard of such a thing--smile.
>>
>> Well, if you need to live with them for whatever reason deal with it as 
>> best
>> you can but if it were me and I could, I'd get out.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Chantel Cuddemi
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 10:02 AM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] some advice
>>
>> I actually changed her diaper once with some verbal prompting since I 
>> hadn't
>> done it before. The truth is, after Sean and Archie came to visit me just 
>> a
>> few weeks ago, they told me afterwords that because of how Archie barked 
>> and
>> scared Lola and because of the shedding, they don't want me living here 
>> with
>> a guide dog.
>> Sean, I'm sorry for bringing this up on list but I had to tell the others
>> what was happening.
>> Chantel.
>>
>> Email: jawsgirl87 at gmail.com
>>
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>>
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>>
>> aim: scholarmistress
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 9:34 AM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] some advice
>>
>> Because babies move around and so do dogs and you can't always predict 
>> what
>> they will do.
>> The baby is her responsibility yes, but it sounds like she's letting you
>> live there. And let's say your dog pees on the floor. While she should 
>> tell
>> you to get it cleaned up, let's say your in the shower. She's going to 
>> clean
>> up the mess so baby won't get in it. It's just what we moms do.
>> Actually, the model of "Your responsibility and my responsibility" is the
>> problem. Everybody lives in the house, everybody takes care of each 
>> other.
>> Maybe that's the problem? I'd hope that if the baby needed to be held or 
>> fed
>> or a diaper change, you'd do that if mama was in the middle of something.
>> If not, well, the dog is not really the issue here.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Cindy Ray
>> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 3:42 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] some advice
>>
>> Well, the baby is her responsibility, and how would the baby get hurt.
>> Anyway, I think that's a good decision on your part.
>> On Sep 12, 2011, at 1:05 PM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote:
>>
>>> Lisa,
>>> There is a baby in the house who is three months old.
>>> She's going to start crawling soon and my friend doesn't want her to
>>> get hurt. Plus, they don't want to deal with the shedding.
>>> I've tried to explain that the dog would be my responsibility and that
>>> I'd make sure nothing happened to the baby but I am not going to
>>> bother trying anymore. She knows where I stand I know where she stnds
>>> so
>> I'll move.
>>>
>>> Email: jawsgirl87 at gmail.com
>>>
>>> facebook: jawsgirl87 at gmail.com
>>>
>>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jawsgirl87
>>>
>>> skype: leogirl48
>>>
>>> msn: jawsgirl87 at gmail.com
>>>
>>> aim: scholarmistress
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Lisa belville
>>> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 10:07 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] some advice
>>>
>>> Hi, chantel.
>>>
>>> This sounds like a no win situation for you and the future dog.  It
>>> sounds like they're not open to learning about dogs, let alone coming
>>> to a compromise, so yes, as everyone else has said, it's time to find
>>> another place to live and try to move on.  If this person is a good
>>> friend,
>> forcing
>>> the issue might strain the situation further.
>>>
>>> How old are the "kids" who also voted to not have the dog in their 
>>> house?
>>> Are these adult children with children of their own who will be at the
>> house
>>>
>>> with you and your dog or are they minor children?  I guess this is
>>> just a difference in parenting, but I wouldn't have been given the
>>> option to have someone who was already living with us voted out of the
>>> house because I didn't like something.  It sounds like your friend is
>>> a bit apprehensive, and her children are just adding to the fears by
>>> putting pressure on her about the thought of a nasty vicious dog in
>>> her house.  And yes, that last sentence was sarcasm.
>>>
>>> Most of the schools are happy to educate friends and family about a
>>> dog,
>> but
>>>
>>> even in the best of circumstances, coming home with a new dog is
>>> stressful enough without having to worry about how others in the house
>>> will react to the dog.  And then there's the whole aspect of a new dog
>>> learning the
>> rules
>>> with a new handler, and this can sometimes give people on the outside
>>> the wrong ideas about how guide dogs should behave.
>>>
>>> I hope you can find a living situation that's more receptive to life
>>> with
>> a
>>> dog.
>>>
>>> Lisa
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It seems I have 3 personalities. One that has a plan, one that
>>> completely screws up the plan, and one that says "what the hell
>>> happened to the
>> plan?"
>>> Lisa Belville
>>> missktlab1217 at frontier.com
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Chantel Cuddemi" <jawsgirl87 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 4:34 PM
>>> Subject: [nagdu] some advice
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I need some advice. I am not sure what to do here. I am trying to
>> convince
>>>> my friend that I am staying with her grandchild won't get hurt by my
>>>> future guide dog, but she and her kids have voted against me having
>>>> one her at this house.
>>>>
>>>> Should I consider moving to another area then get a dog? Please help.
>>>>
>>>> Chantel.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Email: jawsgirl87 at gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> facebook: jawsgirl87 at gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jawsgirl87
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> skype: leogirl48
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> msn: jawsgirl87 at gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> aim: scholarmistress
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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