[nagdu] Sport vs standard harness

Buddy Brannan buddy at brannan.name
Fri Sep 23 17:51:17 UTC 2011


I have thatone, and I really like it a lot. 
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Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
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On Sep 23, 2011, at 1:38 PM, Margo and Arrow wrote:

> Okay, now I'm not confused.  thanks.  I think I like the Laveau style with the y configuration.
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> Margo and Arrow
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>> The standard harness is configured like our American style harness, just as you're used to seeing. The sport and Laveau styles have two straps that come down from the back strap, over the shoulders, meeting in the middle of the chest with the martingale like a print letter Y.
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>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
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>> On Sep 23, 2011, at 1:00 PM, Margo and Arrow wrote:
>> 
>>> Wht is the difference between the martingale standard and sport martingale?
>>> 
>>> Margo and Arrow
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>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Sport vs standard harness
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>>>> They will make offset handles, and the martingale is an integral part of the sport and Laveau designs. Also, the standard harness comes with a martingale standard.
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>>>> Buddy "I don't work for these guys" Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>>>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
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>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 23, 2011, at 12:32 PM, Margo and Arrow wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Can you get a martingale strap?
>>>>> 
>>>>> also, wonder if they will make offset harnesses.
>>>>> 
>>>>> margo and Arrow
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Buddy Brannan" <buddy at brannan.name>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 11:46 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Sport vs standard harness
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hey Tracy,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You're right: the total freedom of movement in the sport style harness handle does require some care, as you can, if not careful, over walk your dog. It seems unlikely that the handle would flip up in the way you indicate, although I suppose that is a possibility, albeit a slim one. However, the handle does move far enough that it could literally go up over your dog's nose, but the backward pressure as your dog moves and as you move would probably preclude this. Though it would be very possible to over walk if you're not careful. The advantage is that you can make extremely tight turns.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It's not on the sight, but order the sport harness, and in the comments, ask Bob to make you the Laveau style. This is a sport style with stabilizer loops. I have one for Leno and absolutely love it. The loops keep the handle at  a natural angle, the handle can't go up over your dog's head, but you still feel all the movement through the shoulders the way the straps are configured. Truly, I think the Laveau style gives the best of both styles. It definitely has a different feel from the standard American harness as you'd get from school. You really feel, not only the pull into the front of the harness, but also the shoulder movement to some extent. I quite like it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> To tell you the truth, the only real reason I wanted another harness was the removable handle. It's the one feature of Seeing Eye's harnesses that I wish we had but don't. I don't have any issue with their name on the back strap or anything of that nature. So, yes, the harness with loops still has a removable handle. Just thread the handle through the loops, then snap it together. The plastic backpack type fasteners that Bob and Rox'e use are surprisingly sturdy; I think you'd have to try pretty hard to damage one. Now having said that, beyond the removable handle, I really enjoy using my Paw Power harness. It's lightweight, gives great feedback, and looks sharp. Definitely count me as satisfied. And I got mine with all the options: reflective tape and padding, I mean. Bob assures me the reflective tape is sewn on, not glued, so it will hold up just fine in the laundry.
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>>>>>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>>>>>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 23, 2011, at 10:56 AM, Tracy Carcione wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'm thinking about getting a Pawpower harness.  It would be nice to have
>>>>>>> something I can throw in the wash, especially with winter crud coming
>>>>>>> along.  I'd also like something where I could detach the handle.
>>>>>>> What I'm not sure about is which to get, sport or standard.  I need to be
>>>>>>> able to tell instantly when Ben is stopping for traffic or dodging a
>>>>>>> pedestrian.
>>>>>>> I'm a little worried that, with the sport, the handle might flip over his
>>>>>>> head.  I'm a little worried that, with the standard, it would be harder to
>>>>>>> take the handle off and on because of the stabilizer loops.
>>>>>>> What do those of you with Pawpower harnesses have to say?
>>>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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