[nagdu] Churches

[Larry D. Keeler]

Thats really harsh!  Nou the church congregration!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alan Wheeler" <awheeler65 at windstream.net>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
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Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Churches


> Well, I lived in Chicago for a while, and let me tell you, I had an
> experience I don't wish on anyone. Granted, it was indirect, but it's 
> still
> very telling.
>
> My ex-wife and I found a good Lutheran church. The pastor was really
> accepting of me, and I even got to be an elder. As it happened the pastor
> was on some local ecuminical committee. I had told him about a church or 
> two
> that had made me feel less than welcome, and looked at my ex like they
> pitied her for having to "care" for me.
>
> So, this Lutheran pastor asked the other clergy in this ecuminical group
> what they did for the blind, and he was told, to use his words, "We don't
> want that kind of person (meaning blind) in our church. That's not who we
> want to minister to."
>
> This is why, on some levels, churches rejecting her doesn't surprise me. 
> It
> may not be the dog, but what the dog represents...her blindness and their
> inability to accept her and know how to deal with her.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Cindy Ray
> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 8:17 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Churches
>
> Yeah, but most Catholic or Assemblies wouldn't either. That is just weird.
>
>
> On Apr 4, 2012, at 7:17 PM, Alan Wheeler wrote:
>
>> Hmmm, about the best thing I can suggest is going to
>> www.calvarychapel.org and seeing if you can find one of their churches
>> nearby. I don't think they'd turn away a dog.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Bertha Avila Guerrero
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 6:34 PM
>> To: NAGDU NFB
>> Subject: [nagdu] Churches
>>
>> Hello All,
>> I know churches are the only places that can deny us access. I don't
>> understand this since they have to follow ADA regulations for building
>> accessibility.
>> Anyway, I have been in Colorado a year and a half and have not yet
>> found a home church. This has been difficult for me because I am used
>> to be active in church. Well I decided Godiva and I needed to find an
>> Easter service and the two churches I called were friendly enough and
>> would not come out and say we would be denied access.
>> But one told me we would have to sit in the foyer and the security
>> guard would decide if we would be allowed in the sanctuary. Another
>> church told me we would have to sit in the back pew. Needless to say I
>> am very disappointed, and my heart hurts . I had no trouble attending
>> church in Texas when I go back.
>>
>> Well I guess we won't be attending an Easter service.
>>
>> B A Guerrero and Seeing Eye Dog Godiva guerrero.avila at sbcglobal.net
>>
>>
>>
>>
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