[nagdu] Churches

[Lyn Gwizdak]

Don't call them!!!  Just show up!

When we call people and ask if we can bring our dogs in, I think we open 
ourselves to discrimination because we give them the opportunity to do so. 
When you just show up, they have to deal with you - right then - and in 
front of everyone else and they are going to be less likely to do this or 
risk looking bad.  Just pick a church and go!  After all, how many sighted 
people call ahead - they look in the papers and show up to church at the 
appointed time of the services.  Wheelchair users need to call so they'll 
know if they'll be able to get into the building but wwe blind folks don't 
have that issue - we walk just like all able-bodied folks.

Lyn and Landon
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bertha Avila Guerrero" <guerrero.avila at sbcglobal.net>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Churches


> Assemblies of God. But I called a non-denominational and even a catholic
> church even though I am not Catholic because I really wanted for us to
> attend an Easter Service.
>
> B A Guerrero and Seeing Eye Dog Godiva
> guerrero.avila at sbcglobal.net
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Alan Wheeler
> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 5:39 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Churches
>
> What denomination church are you looking for? I'm sorry, but ADA or not,
> considering the mission/purpose of the church, not accepting you because 
> of
> your guide dog is just flat wrong, no matter the denomination.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Bertha Avila Guerrero
> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 6:34 PM
> To: NAGDU NFB
> Subject: [nagdu] Churches
>
> Hello All,
> I know churches are the only places that can deny us access. I don't
> understand this since they have to follow ADA regulations for building
> accessibility.
> Anyway, I have been in Colorado a year and a half and have not yet found a
> home church. This has been difficult for me because I am used to be active
> in church. Well I decided Godiva and I needed to find an Easter service 
> and
> the two churches I called were friendly enough and would not come out and
> say we would be denied access.
> But one told me we would have to sit in the foyer and the security guard
> would decide if we would be allowed in the sanctuary. Another church told 
> me
> we would have to sit in the back pew. Needless to say I am very
> disappointed, and my heart hurts . I had no trouble attending church in
> Texas when I go back.
>
> Well I guess we won't be attending an Easter service.
>
> B A Guerrero and Seeing Eye Dog Godiva
> guerrero.avila at sbcglobal.net
>
>
>
>
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