[nagdu] Not all equal

[d m gina]

Who came out and did your walk with you?
I had Drew.
have you been to seeing eye yet, or is this your first time?

Original message:
> I think it is important they see your home area. Not necessarily each inch
> of your apt, house etc, but your area. some areas are dangerous for the dogs
> and yourself to be in.
> I myself will be attending Seeing eye
> keri

> "Sometimes your nearness takes my breath away; and all the things I want to
> say can find no voice. Then, in silence, I can only hope my eyes will speak
> my heart."
> --Robert Sexton

> "For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every truth there
> is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a heart somewhere to
> receive it."
> --Ivan Panin

> Find that guy that will pick up every piece of your shattered heart & put it
> back together; Replacing it with a piece of his.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 3:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Not all equal


>> I think the schools that have been around the longest have built there
>> reputations.  The schools have slightly different gimmicks and ways of
>> opporating that appeal to some and not necessarily others.  For example, I
>> went to Pilot for 2 major reasons.  1. Because they breed poodles and 2.
>> Because I felt there application process was less invassive than other
>> schools.  I felt for instance, I didn't really feel it was there buisness
>> to inspect my home.  Obviously these are my own quirks but they are what
>> they are!  Folks got mad at me because my decission was to go to Pilot but
>> I found it mostly a good school.  If we choose to get picky, we can pick
>> any school apart and some, who have major issues maybe we should!  But,
>> good and bad dogs, administrators, and students all exist.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 1:12 PM
>> Subject: [nagdu] Not all equal


>>> Hannah said the other day that she was starting to wonder if all the
>>> schools were equal, or something to that effect.
>>> I don't think they are all equal.  One can get a great dog from all of
>>> them, and one can get a rotten dog from all of them, but I am convinced
>>> that one has a better probability of getting a great dog at some more
>>> than
>>> others.  We can disagree on which are best, of course.  Me, I feel
>>> confident that I have a high probability of success with GDB or TSE.
>>> Steve
>>> would say Leader, and Jeanine would say GDF.  Everyone has an opinion.
>>> Further, different schools offer different things.  I want a dog who does
>>> excellent traffic work.  I wouldn't accept a dog if we hadn't had at
>>> least
>>> 2 or 3 traffic checks in class.  My dogs have saved my butt too many
>>> times
>>> from cars I didn't hear until the dog had already done his or her stuff.
>>> And some schools have a more robust follow-up.  Some of the small ones
>>> can
>>> only do phone follow-up for people outside their area.  Some people are
>>> fine with that, and some want the option of having a trainer come in
>>> person to help with serious problems.  I'm in the latter category.  I
>>> remember a time when it was hard to get GDB out to New York to help me,
>>> and I've always wondered if it might have made a difference with the dog
>>> I
>>> had to retire early.  Probably not, but I was glad when something changed
>>> and they were able to send someone out more quickly.
>>> I just wanted to say this, for the benefit of people considering getting
>>> a
>>> dog, and for first-timers having a hard time.  We have to be inclusive
>>> and
>>> accepting of everyone.  An arrogant, "my school is the only good one"
>>> attitude is extremely annoying.  I know that firsthand--quite a few TSE
>>> graduates have that attitude, and it annoys the heck out of me.
>>> But I'm still convinced that some schools are better than others.  I
>>> don't
>>> know how to measure it, and I may even be wrong, since others' opinions
>>> as
>>> to which is best differ from mine, and that's fine.  Maybe the only way
>>> to
>>> choose is to ask a lot of questions, and talk to people, and read the
>>> list. But choosing a school by whichever one accepts the application
>>> first, or by which one has the rare breed one fancies, or by which one is
>>> located in an area one would like to visit, might not always be the best
>>> method, though of course dumb chance sometimes works out fine. I chose
>>> GDB
>>> my first time because a friend and I visited it, and I liked the vibe.  I
>>> liked the campus, and the people we talked to.  Not much to go on, but it
>>> worked out. But we didn't have the internet then, for better or worse.
>>> Tracy



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