[nagdu] New Guide Dog Usser
Juanita Herrera
juanitaherrera1991 at gmail.com
Thu Feb 23 08:22:49 UTC 2012
William,
I got my dog at GDB in Oregon. I'll check out the Leader Dog Website though.
Thanks
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> 1. Re: Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems (William Vandervest)
> 2. Re: guide dog cargo while on the go. (William Vandervest)
> 3. Re: guide dog cargo while on the go. (William Vandervest)
> 4. Re: guide dog cargo while on the go. (William Vandervest)
> 5. Re: Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems (Criminal Justice Major)
> 6. Re: New Guide Dog Usser (William Vandervest)
> 7. Re: meating the puppy raisers (Sheila Leigland)
> 8. Re: has this happened to anyone else? (frandi.galindo at gmail.com)
> 9. Re: meating the puppy raisers (Lea williams)
> 10. Re: has this happened to anyone else? (Juanita Herrera)
> 11. Re: meating the puppy raisers (Juanita Herrera)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 22:48:22 -0500
> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
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> i'll have him call her with some suggestions tomorrow lol
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> If Life Hands You A Lemon, Make Lemonaid
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> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 22:57:08 -0500
> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
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> at Leader, it was recommended thet we carry poop bags, paper towels and
> treats while working our dogs, but for long trips add colapsable bowls and
> food as well as a tie-down in case its needed
>
> If Life Hands You A Lemon, Make Lemonaid
> William And LD Lynard
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> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 23:00:51 -0500
> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
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> try www.leaderdog.org they have collapsable bowls in their online store
> and i don't think you need to be a Leader grad to buy there
> If Life Hands You A Lemon, Make Lemonaid
> William And LD Lynard
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> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 23:02:27 -0500
> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
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> btw the bowls are plastic or some kind of rubber
> If Life Hands You A Lemon, Make Lemonaid
> William And LD Lynard
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> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 21:05:13 -0700
> From: "Criminal Justice Major" <orleans24 at comcast.net>
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> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems
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> Ouch!!!
> I know the feeling as Odie has left toys all over the bedroom on occasions.
> Bibi
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> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
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> where did you get your dog?
> i know thet Leader sells both the sign and sleeve as a single unit at the
> school
> If Life Hands You A Lemon, Make Lemonaid
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> From: Sheila Leigland <sleigland at bresnan.net>
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> Oh, that great. I didn't know they had changed that. Thanks.
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> Sheila Leigland
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> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 00:03:36 -0500
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> My soon to be wife and I have found the perfect undistructable toys a dog
> can have. Go and check out
> westpaue designs. They are totally pup safe, and enviornmentally friendly.
> You also get a life time warenty just incase your furry son or daughter
> figure out how to murder their toy. They have many brands, but the one you
> want is the zokaflex, wich is the undistructable one. We have hald these
> toys for more than a half a year. My fianc?
> has a Newfy/german shephard mix, and he is known for terrorizing his toys,
> making them last ab a couple hours to a day. My guide dog who is a yellow
> lab is also known for doing his share of terrorism on his and his giant
> friends toys. Hope this helps. Go to
> www.westpawdesign.com/
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> -----Original Message-----
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> I've tried regular nyla bones with Odie and forget it.
> He shows no interest in them.
> One time, I made the mistake of giving him a soft flexible nyla bone which
> he destroyed that less than ten days and unfortunately, he accidentally
> swallowed a few pieces of it.
> Thankfully when he threw up, the pieces came back up with the vomit.
> Only bones he really enjoys are organtic ones which I buy from Dog Savvy, a
> bone with peanutbutter, sweet potatoe or Youghurt filling on the inside.
> He prefers the edible nyla bones over the regular ones and despite that he
> ends up eating it all, it doesn't impact him nor has he gotten sick from
> them either.
> I don't buy the flavored edible nyla bones continuously as they are
> expensive.
> He likes the turkey and rice, chicken and rice along with the peanubutter
> flavor.
> Next time, I'll have to see if he'll enjoy the ham and cheese one.
> The organtic bones from Dog savvy run approximately from $5.00 up to $15.00,
> depending on the size and what you plan to purchase.
> The organtic bones have bicen filling on the inside that is good for dogs
> who may have a sensitive stomach which Odie does.
> Bibi
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> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 00:32:51 -0500
> From: Lea williams <leanicole1988 at gmail.com>
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> Oh that would be horrible if my puppy raisers for the dog I get tried
> to take mine back.
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> On 2/22/12, Sheila Leigland <sleigland at bresnan.net> wrote:
>> Oh, that great. I didn't know they had changed that. Thanks.
>>
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> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 23:34:52 -0800
> From: Juanita Herrera <juanitaherrera1991 at gmail.com>
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> Hi Hannnah,
> GDB gave us toys for our dogs before graduating. We got to test them
> out to see what our dogs liked best, and Honestly, Anise never liked
> the goughnut. However, she does love all the kong toys, and nylabones.
> All the Kong toys have stayed in great shape. As for the nylabone,
> Anise is on her second one since I got her. Those do get in bad shape
> quickly. I have learned not to give her the nylabones when she is
> unsupervised, and once the bone seems to have splintery ends I throw
> it away. How big was the bone you bought her? It might have been too
> small. I have learned to buy Anise toys that are bigger than what is
> recommended. Hope Princess is doing well. Please give her a hug for
> me.
> Juanita And Anise
>
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>> 1. Re: Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems (Cindy Ray)
>> 2. Re: has this happened to anyone else? (Mark J. Cadigan)
>> 3. Re: has this happened to anyone else? (Mark J. Cadigan)
>> 4. Re: Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems (Tracy Carcione)
>> 5. Re: Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems (Cindy Ray)
>> 6. Re: has this happened to anyone else? (Tracy Carcione)
>> 7. Re: has this happened to anyone else? (Cindy Ray)
>> 8. Re: Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems (Cindy Ray)
>> 9. Re: Returning to List (Shanna Stichler)
>> 10. Re: another update (Cindy Ray)
>> 11. Re: has this happened to anyone else? (Julie J.)
>> 12. Re: nail trimming was Worlds best pet store + dog grooming =
>> wicked amazing! (Julie J.)
>> 13. Re: has this happened to anyone else? (Hannah Chadwick)
>> 14. Re: has this happened to anyone else? (Hannah Chadwick)
>> 15. Re: has this happened to anyone else? (Hannah Chadwick)
>> 16. Re: another update (Tracy Carcione)
>> 17. Re: Returning to List (Hannah Chadwick)
>> 18. Re: has this happened to anyone else? (Hannah Chadwick)
>> 19. Re: has this happened to anyone else? (Cindy Ray)
>> 20. Re: Returning to List (Cindy Ray)
>> 21. Re: Returning to List (Hannah Chadwick)
>> 22. Re: nail trimming was Worlds best pet store + dog grooming =
>> wicked amazing! (Tracy Carcione)
>> 23. Re: has this happened to anyone else? (Hannah Chadwick)
>> 24. Re: has this happened to anyone else? (Cindy Ray)
>> 25. Re: Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems (Larry D. Keeler)
>> 26. Re: has this happened to anyone else? (Larry D. Keeler)
>> 27. Re: has this happened to anyone else? (Larry D. Keeler)
>> 28. Re: has this happened to anyone else? (Larry D. Keeler)
>> 29. Re: has this happened to anyone else? (Hannah Chadwick)
>> 30. Re: Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems (Hannah Chadwick)
>> 31. Re: has this happened to anyone else? (Hannah Chadwick)
>> 32. Re: has this happened to anyone else?
>> (Nicole B. Torcolini at Home)
>> 33. Re: another update (Rachel Krieg)
>> 34. Re: has this happened to anyone else? (Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC))
>> 35. Re: Returning to List (Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC))
>> 36. Aftershokz Headphones Review Posted (Buddy Brannan)
>> 37. Re: Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems (loriandleo)
>> 38. Re: Aftershokz Headphones Review Posted
>> (Nicole B. Torcolini at Home)
>> 39. Re: Returning to List (Shanna Stichler)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 06:19:39 -0600
>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems
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>> Well what is it?
>> Cindy
>>
>> On Feb 22, 2012, at 12:21 AM, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home wrote:
>>
>>> A few times now, people have mentioned their dogs tearing up toys or
>>> chewing through bones at an alarming and potentially unsafe rate. My
>>> recommendation to remedy the problem is to get a goughnut. I am not
>>> trying
>>> to make a sales pitch. It has just been my experience that even the best
>>> chewers take months to finally damage the toy enough to be replaced.
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 07:23:52 -0500
>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
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>> My dog also maniges to destroy most anything. There is a type of nyolobone
>> that is edible; perhaps you got these by mistake? My dog takes chunks out
>> of the nonedible bones, so I have to watch them, and throw them out after
>> a
>> wile.
>>
>>
>>
>> When selecting toys for your dog, verify they are for a dog your dog's
>> size
>> or larger.
>>
>>
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 12:56 AM
>> Subject: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>>
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> I purchased a couple of chicken flavored nila bones for Princess from
>>> Amazon, and they arrived today. I gave her one, and she chewed it up in
>>> no
>>> time. She swallowed most of it, and I'm just wondering if this will
>>> damage
>>> her stomach? The bones itself seemed very hard to me, but she somehow
>>> managed...
>>> The other bone was given to a friend who plans to show it to the vet
>>> because
>>> she works at a vet clinic...
>>> Any thoughts?
>>> All the best, Hannah and Princess
>>>
>>>
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 07:50:31 -0500
>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
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>> Hi,
>>
>>
>>
>> A company called west paw design makes toys out of a material they call
>> "Zogoflex" I have several of them, and so far, they are not showing any
>> damage.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.westpawdesign.com/catalog/dogs/dog-toys
>>
>>
>>
>> I haven't ordered anything from the website; however, the local pet store
>> carries these toys. The company that makes them will replace the toy if
>> your
>> dog does damage it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:01:39 -0500
>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems
>> Message-ID: <e984afd60e782bca97b62976ad755a37.squirrel at mail.panix.com>
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>> I bought a goughnut. To me, it looks like a big rubber pickle. It's
>> maybe 6-8 inches long and maybe 2.5 inches across, solid rubber.
>> Ben does not care about it at all. The golden who sometimes comes to
>> visit hasn't picked it up either, although it's gotten kicked out of the
>> way, so maybe she didn't see it. Maybe Ben's successor will like it, or
>> else it will be an indestructible toy just because no one will ever play
>> with it.
>> Tracy
>>
>>> Well what is it?
>>> Cindy
>>>
>>> On Feb 22, 2012, at 12:21 AM, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home wrote:
>>>
>>>> A few times now, people have mentioned their dogs tearing up toys or
>>>> chewing through bones at an alarming and potentially unsafe rate. My
>>>> recommendation to remedy the problem is to get a goughnut. I am not
>>>> trying to make a sales pitch. It has just been my experience that
>>>> even the best chewers take months to finally damage the toy enough to
>>>> be replaced.
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 07:08:16 -0600
>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems
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>> I just ordered the things. They have rings, balls, and sticks. I bought
>> the
>> Extreme Stick, which is 9 inches. They have a red and green indicator in
>> them. Red means stop and if someone told you it was red, then you can send
>> it back and get it replaced. Lifetime guarantee. Can't wait to see this
>> thing.
>>
>> Cindy
>>
>> On Feb 22, 2012, at 7:01 AM, Tracy Carcione wrote:
>>
>>> I bought a goughnut. To me, it looks like a big rubber pickle. It's
>>> maybe 6-8 inches long and maybe 2.5 inches across, solid rubber.
>>> Ben does not care about it at all. The golden who sometimes comes to
>>> visit hasn't picked it up either, although it's gotten kicked out of the
>>> way, so maybe she didn't see it. Maybe Ben's successor will like it, or
>>> else it will be an indestructible toy just because no one will ever play
>>> with it.
>>> Tracy
>>>
>>>> Well what is it?
>>>> Cindy
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 22, 2012, at 12:21 AM, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> A few times now, people have mentioned their dogs tearing up toys or
>>>>> chewing through bones at an alarming and potentially unsafe rate. My
>>>>> recommendation to remedy the problem is to get a goughnut. I am not
>>>>> trying to make a sales pitch. It has just been my experience that
>>>>> even the best chewers take months to finally damage the toy enough to
>>>>> be replaced.
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>> Message: 6
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:54:38 -0500
>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>> Message-ID: <3ed60eb5e25da8404bae1a965254e3dd.squirrel at mail.panix.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
>>
>> There are 2 kinds of Nylabone, ordinary and "for hard chewers". I made
>> the mistake once of getting the ordinary, and Echo tore pieces off it in
>> about 5 minutes, so I had to throw it out. What you want is "for hard
>> chewers". I like the Wolf size, or bigger.
>> Princess will probably throw up the indigestible pieces, (probably at the
>> most inconvenient time.) But that's OK. I always worry, if the dog eats
>> a toy, that a piece will get stuck and cause an obstruction, which is very
>> serious. Sorry if that makes you panic.
>> Which is why, whenever I get a new toy, it's a "with supervision" toy
>> until I see that the dog is not tearing it to bits.
>> Tracy
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> I purchased a couple of chicken flavored nila bones for Princess from
>>> Amazon, and they arrived today. I gave her one, and she chewed it up in
>>> no
>>> time. She swallowed most of it, and I'm just wondering if this will
>>> damage
>>> her stomach? The bones itself seemed very hard to me, but she somehow
>>> managed...
>>> The other bone was given to a friend who plans to show it to the vet
>>> because
>>> she works at a vet clinic...
>>> Any thoughts?
>>> All the best, Hannah and Princess
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:02:57 -0600
>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>> Message-ID: <72B06781-7AD4-46C3-BFF5-40800ED7182D at gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>> I wouldn't get flavored ones myself. I get the really thick ones and when
>> they start to show missing pieces, they're history. Sounds as if that one
>> was maybe an edible one. Anyway, I'd watch her just to be sure she's OK.
>>
>> Cindy
>>
>> On Feb 22, 2012, at 6:23 AM, Mark J. Cadigan wrote:
>>
>>> My dog also maniges to destroy most anything. There is a type of
>>> nyolobone
>>> that is edible; perhaps you got these by mistake? My dog takes chunks
>>> out
>>> of the nonedible bones, so I have to watch them, and throw them out after
>>> a wile.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> When selecting toys for your dog, verify they are for a dog your dog's
>>> size or larger.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Good luck,
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hannah Chadwick"
>>> <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 12:56 AM
>>> Subject: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> I purchased a couple of chicken flavored nila bones for Princess from
>>>> Amazon, and they arrived today. I gave her one, and she chewed it up in
>>>> no
>>>> time. She swallowed most of it, and I'm just wondering if this will
>>>> damage
>>>> her stomach? The bones itself seemed very hard to me, but she somehow
>>>> managed...
>>>> The other bone was given to a friend who plans to show it to the vet
>>>> because
>>>> she works at a vet clinic...
>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>> All the best, Hannah and Princess
>>>>
>>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 8
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:05:06 -0600
>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems
>> Message-ID: <2A928AB9-9129-49ED-9E68-C656D36707E3 at gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>> BTW, these toys sound interesting, Nicole, and I'm looking forward to
>> getting them to see why they would be like. Where did you get them and
>> what
>> did you pay for them?
>>
>> Cindy
>>
>> On Feb 22, 2012, at 12:21 AM, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home wrote:
>>
>>> A few times now, people have mentioned their dogs tearing up toys or
>>> chewing through bones at an alarming and potentially unsafe rate. My
>>> recommendation to remedy the problem is to get a goughnut. I am not
>>> trying
>>> to make a sales pitch. It has just been my experience that even the best
>>> chewers take months to finally damage the toy enough to be replaced.
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>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 9
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:10:55 -0600
>> From: "Shanna Stichler" <slstich at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Returning to List
>> Message-ID: <3C1E3AFC51284CAB9522A577A0CEDB51 at ShannaPC>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8";
>> reply-type=original
>>
>> Hi Hannah,
>>
>> Bestt of luck with Princess. I have a friend who owns a black Poodle, and
>> he
>> is a wonderful dog!
>>
>> Take care,
>>
>> Shanna
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Hannah Chadwick
>> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 9:47 AM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Returning to List
>>
>> Welcome to the list Shanna. My name is Hannah and I recently got my first
>> dog, Princess. She is from Pilot dogs and she's a black poodle. I hope you
>> enjoy the list and I look forwaed to your posts.
>> Best, Hannah and Princess
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Shanna Stichler
>> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 6:54 AM
>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [nagdu] Returning to List
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> My name is Shanna, and I used to post on this list a few years ago. I
>> stopped doing the listserv thing due to time constraints, but have a bit
>> more time to participate again.
>>
>> Anyway, I?m currently working Nestl?, a female black Labrador trained at
>> GDB?s
>> San Rafael campus. Up until a couple months ago, I worked for that
>> organization in their Training Department, but left in order to further
>> pursue a PHD.
>>
>> My current dog is about to turn 8, so I am beginning the process of
>> planning
>> for her retirement, whenever that may be. I am seriously considering
>> owner-training my next dog, hence the advance preparation. I think there
>> are
>> some owner-trainers on list, so I?m hoping to use this forum as a
>> resource.
>>
>> I look forward to meeting all of you and contributing where I can.
>>
>> Best,
>> Shanna
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>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 10
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:15:41 -0600
>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] another update
>> Message-ID: <DD0484A2-99FD-4209-A6B9-0AC2AD4B233B at gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>> I think it is really a good idea to work on the things the schools want us
>> to work on, and I'm glad they are being a little more proactive about this
>> than they once were. It gives us something to work toward, and often it
>> doesn't take too long to get to a place where we will be accepted. Of
>> course
>> I could be way off base here as I don't know the whole history.
>>
>> Cindy
>>
>> On Feb 21, 2012, at 7:41 PM, Rachel Krieg wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, all.
>>>
>>> My interview with GDA went okay. I haven't been accepted or denied. They
>>> need me to work on my street crossings and increasing my stamina. I am
>>> disappointed, but will do whatever it takes as I desperately want another
>>> dog.
>>> Rachel
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>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 11
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:19:34 -0600
>> From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>> Message-ID: <4F44F976.20705 at neb.rr.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>> Hannah,
>>
>> Were the bones intended to be eaten or were they the sort to only be
>> chewed? There are bones or hard chews that are made to actually be
>> eaten. Greenies and these things made with corn starch come to mind.
>> then there are bones intended to only be chewed that don't or shouldn't
>> go to pieces.
>>
>> If you bought the first type Princess should be fine unless she
>> swallowed a huge chunk or the ingredients don't agree with her. Given
>> your difficulties with her digestion, I think I'd stay away from this
>> sort of thing. If the bone was the variety that isn't supposed to be
>> eaten and she swallowed big pieces, you could have a problem. Sorry, I
>> don't mean to worry you.
>>
>> I think if it were me, I'd find out what the friend finds out from the
>> vet who looks at the other uneaten bone and do whatever the vet
>> suggests. I think I'd also stay far away from edible bones in the future.
>>
>> Let us know how it turns out,
>> Julie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 12
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:31:59 -0600
>> From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] nail trimming was Worlds best pet store + dog
>> grooming = wicked amazing!
>> Message-ID: <4F44FC5F.20304 at neb.rr.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>> John,
>>
>> Welcome to the list! I'm thinking you are new. If my memory is
>> incorrect please excuse my error.
>>
>> Nails...how to leave them is a bit of an art. If you've had them
>> clipped at a vet or a groomer or from the guide dog school, you can use
>> that as a reference for how long they should be. Generally speaking the
>> nails should not touch the floor when the dog is standing in a relaxed
>> posture on a flat surface. If you hear a lot of nails clicking on the
>> floor when the dog walks, that is probably also an indication that they
>> are too long. Some dogs though will click their nails on the floor just
>> because of the way they move their feet when walking.
>>
>> I generally take off a very small amount and trim more frequently. The
>> exact amount is difficult to say...I'll take a guess and say 2 or 3
>> millimeters maybe? It also depends on the particular dog. My current
>> working guide Monty doesn't need his nails clipped very often. I could
>> probably get away with trimming them two or three times a year. He's
>> very active and is probably wearing them down himself. I do run the
>> PediPaws over his nails every few weeks, just so he remembers to behave
>> himself. I'm taking off a miniscule amount though.
>>
>> With my older dog, I trim maybe every 2 to 4 weeks. More in the winter
>> because snow doesn't wear down the nails as much as cement does! Her
>> nails also seem to grow faster than my younger dog. I used to trim her
>> nails weekly when she was younger.
>>
>> HTH
>> Julie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/21/2012 6:33 PM, John Vickers wrote:
>>> I was wanting to know how long do you leav them; and how do you know when
>>> to stop cutting. John Vickers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 10:50 AM PST Hannah Chadwick wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank you Julie. I'll definitely look in to it :)
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of Julie J.
>>>> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 9:45 AM
>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] nail trimming was Worlds best pet store + dog
>>>> grooming
>>>> = wicked amazing!
>>>>
>>>> Hannah,
>>>>
>>>> I use two different tools, a traditional nail trimmer and the PediPaws
>>>> nail
>>>> grinder.
>>>>
>>>> First the traditional nail clippers. I've tried several
>>>> brands/quality/styles. I'd highly recommend spending the money for some
>>>> really good clippers. The cheap ones either won't work at all or will
>>>> crush and splinter the nail. I think the kind I'm using right now cost
>>>> around $15 and should last at least for the next 10 years. You can
>>>> usually
>>>> buy replacement blades for the more high quality clippers, but by the
>>>> time I
>>>> need a replacement blade, I've forgotten what brand I have or where I
>>>> got
>>>> them.
>>>>
>>>> Anyhow, the way I trim nails is to position the nail in the hole made by
>>>> the
>>>> open clipper blades. I use a finger on the tip of the nail to check how
>>>> much is poking through, which is how much will be trimmed off. I
>>>> generally
>>>> go a tiny bit at a time, preferring to make repeat cuts if necessary
>>>> rather
>>>> than risking taking off too much. I have trimmed too short before.
>>>>
>>>> The second method is some sort of grinder. Several people on this list
>>>> use
>>>> grinders. Tracy comes to mind. she has a much more powerful grinder
>>>> and
>>>> can get the job done very quickly. I have the PediPaws. It
>>>> does eventually get the job done, but you have to be patient. With a
>>>> grinder you basically rub or swipe the end of the nail to take off the
>>>> desired amount of material.
>>>>
>>>> Different people prefer different methods as do the dogs. the nail
>>>> grinder
>>>> makes a bit of noise and will vibrate the nail. I used a bit of hot dog
>>>> to
>>>> get both of my dogs used to this. I don't think it's their
>>>> favorite thing in the world, but they don't fuss either. I find the
>>>> traditional clippers faster, but they require more skill and they leave
>>>> a sharp edge. Belle doesn't mind the regular clippers so much. I tend
>>>> to use them more when I can immediately take her for a walk on cement,
>>>> which
>>>> wears off the sharp edges.
>>>>
>>>> HTH
>>>> Julie
>>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 13
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 07:31:13 -0800
>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>> Message-ID: <000601ccf177$039c9f20$0ad5dd60$@gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Mark,
>> I think I did get the edible ones... oops
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Mark J. Cadigan
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 4:24 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>>
>> My dog also maniges to destroy most anything. There is a type of nyolobone
>> that is edible; perhaps you got these by mistake? My dog takes chunks out
>> of the nonedible bones, so I have to watch them, and throw them out after
>> a
>> wile.
>>
>>
>>
>> When selecting toys for your dog, verify they are for a dog your dog's
>> size
>> or larger.
>>
>>
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 12:56 AM
>> Subject: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>>
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> I purchased a couple of chicken flavored nila bones for Princess from
>>> Amazon, and they arrived today. I gave her one, and she chewed it up in
>>> no
>>> time. She swallowed most of it, and I'm just wondering if this will
>>> damage
>>> her stomach? The bones itself seemed very hard to me, but she somehow
>>> managed...
>>> The other bone was given to a friend who plans to show it to the vet
>>> because
>>> she works at a vet clinic...
>>> Any thoughts?
>>> All the best, Hannah and Princess
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>>
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>> m
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 14
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 07:37:16 -0800
>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>> Message-ID: <000801ccf177$dbd7ffb0$9387ff10$@gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Tracy,
>> I don't think she'll throw it up since she hasn't and she ate it about
>> midday yesterday.
>> However, she hasn't really been eating since. I think I'll just let her do
>> her thing and I'm sure the bone will get out of her system soon.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Tracy Carcione
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 5:55 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>>
>> There are 2 kinds of Nylabone, ordinary and "for hard chewers". I made
>> the
>> mistake once of getting the ordinary, and Echo tore pieces off it in about
>> 5
>> minutes, so I had to throw it out. What you want is "for hard chewers".
>> I
>> like the Wolf size, or bigger.
>> Princess will probably throw up the indigestible pieces, (probably at the
>> most inconvenient time.) But that's OK. I always worry, if the dog eats
>> a
>> toy, that a piece will get stuck and cause an obstruction, which is very
>> serious. Sorry if that makes you panic.
>> Which is why, whenever I get a new toy, it's a "with supervision" toy
>> until
>> I see that the dog is not tearing it to bits.
>> Tracy
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> I purchased a couple of chicken flavored nila bones for Princess from
>>> Amazon, and they arrived today. I gave her one, and she chewed it up
>>> in no time. She swallowed most of it, and I'm just wondering if this
>>> will damage her stomach? The bones itself seemed very hard to me, but
>>> she somehow managed...
>>> The other bone was given to a friend who plans to show it to the vet
>>> because she works at a vet clinic...
>>> Any thoughts?
>>> All the best, Hannah and Princess
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> et
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 15
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 07:47:17 -0800
>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>> Message-ID: <001701ccf179$41ed4f70$c5c7ee50$@gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Cindy,
>> I got a flavored ones because she doesn't seem to like toys and I thought
>> getting her the chicken bones will give her something to do...
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Cindy Ray
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:03 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>>
>> I wouldn't get flavored ones myself. I get the really thick ones and when
>> they start to show missing pieces, they're history. Sounds as if that one
>> was maybe an edible one. Anyway, I'd watch her just to be sure she's OK.
>>
>> Cindy
>>
>> On Feb 22, 2012, at 6:23 AM, Mark J. Cadigan wrote:
>>
>>> My dog also maniges to destroy most anything. There is a type of
>>> nyolobone
>> that is edible; perhaps you got these by mistake? My dog takes chunks out
>> of the nonedible bones, so I have to watch them, and throw them out after
>> a
>> wile.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> When selecting toys for your dog, verify they are for a dog your dog's
>> size or larger.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Good luck,
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hannah Chadwick"
>>> <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 12:56 AM
>>> Subject: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> I purchased a couple of chicken flavored nila bones for Princess from
>>>> Amazon, and they arrived today. I gave her one, and she chewed it up
>>>> in no time. She swallowed most of it, and I'm just wondering if this
>>>> will damage her stomach? The bones itself seemed very hard to me, but
>>>> she somehow managed...
>>>> The other bone was given to a friend who plans to show it to the vet
>>>> because she works at a vet clinic...
>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>> All the best, Hannah and Princess
>>>>
>>>>
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>> Message: 16
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:47:06 -0500
>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] another update
>> Message-ID: <740b166d62b15b20091b81945199a00b.squirrel at mail.panix.com>
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>>
>> Hi Rachel.
>> It is disappointing, but they gave you concrete goals, and you know what
>> to do to reach them. They're trying to set you up to succeed, and that's
>> a good thing. Much better than going to class and having to return
>> empty-handed because you weren't quite ready. And better than an outright
>> rejection.
>> Wishing you all success in reaching your goals.
>> Tracy
>>
>>> Hi, all.
>>>
>>> My interview with GDA went okay. I haven't been accepted or denied. They
>>> need me to work on my street crossings and increasing my stamina. I am
>>> disappointed, but will do whatever it takes as I desperately want another
>>> dog.
>>> Rachel
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>> Message: 17
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 07:48:39 -0800
>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Returning to List
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>>
>> Thank you Shanna. Princess is a great dog too but the adjustment period is
>> probably difficult on her.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Shanna Stichler
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:11 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Returning to List
>>
>> Hi Hannah,
>>
>> Bestt of luck with Princess. I have a friend who owns a black Poodle, and
>> he
>> is a wonderful dog!
>>
>> Take care,
>>
>> Shanna
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Hannah Chadwick
>> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 9:47 AM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Returning to List
>>
>> Welcome to the list Shanna. My name is Hannah and I recently got my first
>> dog, Princess. She is from Pilot dogs and she's a black poodle. I hope you
>> enjoy the list and I look forwaed to your posts.
>> Best, Hannah and Princess
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Shanna Stichler
>> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 6:54 AM
>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [nagdu] Returning to List
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> My name is Shanna, and I used to post on this list a few years ago. I
>> stopped doing the listserv thing due to time constraints, but have a bit
>> more time to participate again.
>>
>> Anyway, I?m currently working Nestl?, a female black Labrador trained at
>> GDB?s San Rafael campus. Up until a couple months ago, I worked for that
>> organization in their Training Department, but left in order to further
>> pursue a PHD.
>>
>> My current dog is about to turn 8, so I am beginning the process of
>> planning
>> for her retirement, whenever that may be. I am seriously considering
>> owner-training my next dog, hence the advance preparation. I think there
>> are
>> some owner-trainers on list, so I?m hoping to use this forum as a
>> resource.
>>
>> I look forward to meeting all of you and contributing where I can.
>>
>> Best,
>> Shanna
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>> Message: 18
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 07:50:09 -0800
>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>> Message-ID: <001b01ccf179$a9d2c0c0$fd784240$@gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Julie,
>> I believe they were the edible bones but I didn't know that when I ordered
>> it. I'm definitely staying away from them now /smile/.
>> Thank you
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Julie J.
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:20 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>>
>> Hannah,
>>
>> Were the bones intended to be eaten or were they the sort to only be
>> chewed?
>> There are bones or hard chews that are made to actually be eaten.
>> Greenies
>> and these things made with corn starch come to mind.
>> then there are bones intended to only be chewed that don't or shouldn't go
>> to pieces.
>>
>> If you bought the first type Princess should be fine unless she swallowed
>> a
>> huge chunk or the ingredients don't agree with her. Given your
>> difficulties
>> with her digestion, I think I'd stay away from this sort of thing. If the
>> bone was the variety that isn't supposed to be eaten and she swallowed big
>> pieces, you could have a problem. Sorry, I don't mean to worry you.
>>
>> I think if it were me, I'd find out what the friend finds out from the vet
>> who looks at the other uneaten bone and do whatever the vet suggests. I
>> think I'd also stay far away from edible bones in the future.
>>
>> Let us know how it turns out,
>> Julie
>>
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>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 19
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:57:12 -0600
>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>> Message-ID: <D77647E3-339F-49B4-BCE1-543B69527545 at gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>> I am not sure that you have to worry about her if she doesn't like toys,
>> she
>> just doesn't. That's her personality. That's how it feels to me. I have
>> had
>> lots of dogs who don't. Eventually, they come to something they love
>> sometimes, but they don't all love toys, I think.
>> Cindy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 20
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:58:08 -0600
>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Returning to List
>> Message-ID: <5FD4C738-6C4A-4C3A-A715-BB4044934739 at gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>> I suspect that the adjustment period is a little more difficult for you
>> even
>> than Princess. Just keep loving and praising and you'll both get through.
>>
>> xo
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 21
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:01:12 -0800
>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Returning to List
>> Message-ID: <001d01ccf17b$336f5ef0$9a4e1cd0$@gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Thank you. That's what I'm doing.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Cindy Ray
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 7:58 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Returning to List
>>
>> I suspect that the adjustment period is a little more difficult for you
>> even
>> than Princess. Just keep loving and praising and you'll both get through.
>>
>> xo
>>
>>
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>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 22
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:01:00 -0500
>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] nail trimming was Worlds best pet store + dog
>> grooming = wicked amazing!
>> Message-ID: <16a1c0ce56a5c396312bfd1829c04312.squirrel at mail.panix.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
>>
>> I trim my working dog's nails about even with the fur between his toes. I
>> use escalators quite a bit, and my first training with escalators
>> impressed on me the importance of keeping the dog's nails short so they
>> don't get caught, which would be horrible.
>> I use a Dremel Pet Nail Grinder. I do Ben's nails every week, so it's a
>> routine and I don't forget to do it. It also makes it fairly quick, since
>> there's not far to go to get the length I want. It takes 10-15 minutes.
>> I don't do the retired dog's nails very often, just occasionally if I
>> really think she needs it.
>> Tracy
>>
>>>
>>> I was wanting to know how long do you leav them; and how do you know when
>>> to stop cutting. John Vickers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 10:50 AM PST Hannah Chadwick wrote:
>>>
>>>>Thank you Julie. I'll definitely look in to it :)
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>>Of Julie J.
>>>>Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 9:45 AM
>>>>To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>Subject: Re: [nagdu] nail trimming was Worlds best pet store + dog
>>>> grooming
>>>>= wicked amazing!
>>>>
>>>>Hannah,
>>>>
>>>>I use two different tools, a traditional nail trimmer and the PediPaws
>>>> nail
>>>>grinder.
>>>>
>>>>First the traditional nail clippers. I've tried several
>>>>brands/quality/styles. I'd highly recommend spending the money for some
>>>>really good clippers. The cheap ones either won't work at all or will
>>>>crush and splinter the nail. I think the kind I'm using right now cost
>>>>around $15 and should last at least for the next 10 years. You can
>>>> usually
>>>>buy replacement blades for the more high quality clippers, but by the
>>>> time I
>>>>need a replacement blade, I've forgotten what brand I have or where I got
>>>>them.
>>>>
>>>>Anyhow, the way I trim nails is to position the nail in the hole made by
>>>> the
>>>>open clipper blades. I use a finger on the tip of the nail to check how
>>>>much is poking through, which is how much will be trimmed off. I
>>>> generally
>>>>go a tiny bit at a time, preferring to make repeat cuts if necessary
>>>> rather
>>>>than risking taking off too much. I have trimmed too short before.
>>>>
>>>>The second method is some sort of grinder. Several people on this list
>>>> use
>>>>grinders. Tracy comes to mind. she has a much more powerful grinder and
>>>>can get the job done very quickly. I have the PediPaws. It
>>>>does eventually get the job done, but you have to be patient. With a
>>>>grinder you basically rub or swipe the end of the nail to take off the
>>>>desired amount of material.
>>>>
>>>>Different people prefer different methods as do the dogs. the nail
>>>> grinder
>>>>makes a bit of noise and will vibrate the nail. I used a bit of hot dog
>>>> to
>>>>get both of my dogs used to this. I don't think it's their
>>>>favorite thing in the world, but they don't fuss either. I find the
>>>>traditional clippers faster, but they require more skill and they leave
>>>>a sharp edge. Belle doesn't mind the regular clippers so much. I tend
>>>>to use them more when I can immediately take her for a walk on cement,
>>>> which
>>>>wears off the sharp edges.
>>>>
>>>>HTH
>>>>Julie
>>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 23
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:02:17 -0800
>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>> Message-ID: <001f01ccf17b$5ab6e9b0$1024bd10$@gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Idk, but it seems like they would get bored just sitting around when I'm
>> doing homework or something. I guess Princess loves sleeping lol
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Cindy Ray
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 7:57 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>>
>> I am not sure that you have to worry about her if she doesn't like toys,
>> she
>> just doesn't. That's her personality. That's how it feels to me. I have
>> had
>> lots of dogs who don't. Eventually, they come to something they love
>> sometimes, but they don't all love toys, I think.
>> Cindy
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 24
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:03:50 -0600
>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>> Message-ID: <5D189E26-0B03-4A32-8522-BD6BB8E6F856 at gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>> Sometimes they do. That's why they want us to make sure they get
>> exercised.
>> They often sleep when there isn't activity, and they do a lot of watching
>> of
>> things going on around them. I had one that used to track flies on
>> windows.
>> They don't really think quite the same as we do, or at least that's how it
>> seems to me.
>>
>> Cindy
>>
>> On Feb 22, 2012, at 10:02 AM, Hannah Chadwick wrote:
>>
>>> Idk, but it seems like they would get bored just sitting around when I'm
>>> doing homework or something. I guess Princess loves sleeping lol
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Cindy Ray
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 7:57 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>>>
>>> I am not sure that you have to worry about her if she doesn't like toys,
>>> she
>>> just doesn't. That's her personality. That's how it feels to me. I have
>>> had
>>> lots of dogs who don't. Eventually, they come to something they love
>>> sometimes, but they don't all love toys, I think.
>>> Cindy
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 25
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:10:14 -0500
>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems
>> Message-ID: <BC340625291646E88C83C6F4F539A11A at yourec0540d030>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=original
>>
>> I just buy mine at the dollar stor or get them out of the sale bin. I
>> figure that they'll eventualy get torn up and spit soaked so I would
>> rather
>> buy them cheap! Exception, Kongs. They seem to be indestructible!
>> Fortunately, both of my dogs usually take a few months to tear them up.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 9:05 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems
>>
>>
>>> BTW, these toys sound interesting, Nicole, and I'm looking forward to
>>> getting them to see why they would be like. Where did you get them and
>>> what did you pay for them?
>>>
>>> Cindy
>>>
>>> On Feb 22, 2012, at 12:21 AM, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home wrote:
>>>
>>>> A few times now, people have mentioned their dogs tearing up toys or
>>>> chewing through bones at an alarming and potentially unsafe rate. My
>>>> recommendation to remedy the problem is to get a goughnut. I am not
>>>> trying to make a sales pitch. It has just been my experience that even
>>>> the best chewers take months to finally damage the toy enough to be
>>>> replaced.
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>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 26
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:13:25 -0500
>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>> Message-ID: <B0EBC845903B4496B53D1B8261464EFC at yourec0540d030>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=original
>>
>> They must have been. My dogs tear those things up but the nyla bones just
>> get chewed and become rough. Wonderful things to step on! So far, I've
>> never worried about those edible things. My dogs haven't gotten sick from
>> them yet, even though they wolf them down!
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:50 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>>
>>
>>> Julie,
>>> I believe they were the edible bones but I didn't know that when I
>>> ordered
>>> it. I'm definitely staying away from them now /smile/.
>>> Thank you
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Julie J.
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:20 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>>>
>>> Hannah,
>>>
>>> Were the bones intended to be eaten or were they the sort to only be
>>> chewed?
>>> There are bones or hard chews that are made to actually be eaten.
>>> Greenies
>>> and these things made with corn starch come to mind.
>>> then there are bones intended to only be chewed that don't or shouldn't
>>> go
>>> to pieces.
>>>
>>> If you bought the first type Princess should be fine unless she swallowed
>>> a
>>> huge chunk or the ingredients don't agree with her. Given your
>>> difficulties
>>> with her digestion, I think I'd stay away from this sort of thing. If
>>> the
>>> bone was the variety that isn't supposed to be eaten and she swallowed
>>> big
>>> pieces, you could have a problem. Sorry, I don't mean to worry you.
>>>
>>> I think if it were me, I'd find out what the friend finds out from the
>>> vet
>>> who looks at the other uneaten bone and do whatever the vet suggests. I
>>> think I'd also stay far away from edible bones in the future.
>>>
>>> Let us know how it turns out,
>>> Julie
>>>
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>> Message: 27
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:15:54 -0500
>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
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>> My little dog Pez never played with toys all that much. Holly plays some,
>> but not a great deal. Now that Pez is getting older hes content to be the
>> first one to sniff and play with a new toy for a minute before he turns it
>> over to Holly.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:57 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>>
>>
>>>I am not sure that you have to worry about her if she doesn't like toys,
>>>she just doesn't. That's her personality. That's how it feels to me. I
>>> have
>>>
>>>had lots of dogs who don't. Eventually, they come to something they love
>>>sometimes, but they don't all love toys, I think.
>>> Cindy
>>>
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>> Message: 28
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:17:10 -0500
>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
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>>
>> They'll always find something to do!
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:02 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>>
>>
>>> Idk, but it seems like they would get bored just sitting around when I'm
>>> doing homework or something. I guess Princess loves sleeping lol
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Cindy Ray
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 7:57 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>>>
>>> I am not sure that you have to worry about her if she doesn't like toys,
>>> she
>>> just doesn't. That's her personality. That's how it feels to me. I have
>>> had
>>> lots of dogs who don't. Eventually, they come to something they love
>>> sometimes, but they don't all love toys, I think.
>>> Cindy
>>>
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>> Message: 29
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:27:35 -0800
>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
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>>
>> oh yes, Princess gets a lot of walks every day :).
>> Tracking flies? That's pretty amusing :)
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Cindy Ray
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 8:04 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>>
>> Sometimes they do. That's why they want us to make sure they get
>> exercised.
>> They often sleep when there isn't activity, and they do a lot of watching
>> of
>> things going on around them. I had one that used to track flies on
>> windows.
>> They don't really think quite the same as we do, or at least that's how it
>> seems to me.
>>
>> Cindy
>>
>> On Feb 22, 2012, at 10:02 AM, Hannah Chadwick wrote:
>>
>>> Idk, but it seems like they would get bored just sitting around when
>>> I'm doing homework or something. I guess Princess loves sleeping lol
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Cindy Ray
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 7:57 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>>>
>>> I am not sure that you have to worry about her if she doesn't like
>>> toys, she just doesn't. That's her personality. That's how it feels to
>>> me. I have had lots of dogs who don't. Eventually, they come to
>>> something they love sometimes, but they don't all love toys, I think.
>>> Cindy
>>>
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>> Message: 30
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:29:25 -0800
>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems
>> Message-ID: <003201ccf17f$250b7430$6f225c90$@gmail.com>
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>>
>> Hmmmmm I don't think my dog likes kongs. I put peanut butter in it and she
>> went for it the first time, but not after that. I guess she doesn't like
>> toys lol
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Larry D. Keeler
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 8:10 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems
>>
>> I just buy mine at the dollar stor or get them out of the sale bin. I
>> figure that they'll eventualy get torn up and spit soaked so I would
>> rather
>> buy them cheap! Exception, Kongs. They seem to be indestructible!
>> Fortunately, both of my dogs usually take a few months to tear them up.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 9:05 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems
>>
>>
>>> BTW, these toys sound interesting, Nicole, and I'm looking forward to
>>> getting them to see why they would be like. Where did you get them and
>>> what did you pay for them?
>>>
>>> Cindy
>>>
>>> On Feb 22, 2012, at 12:21 AM, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home wrote:
>>>
>>>> A few times now, people have mentioned their dogs tearing up toys
>>>> or chewing through bones at an alarming and potentially unsafe rate.
>>>> My recommendation to remedy the problem is to get a goughnut. I am
>>>> not trying to make a sales pitch. It has just been my experience that
>>>> even the best chewers take months to finally damage the toy enough to
>>>> be replaced.
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>> Message: 31
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:32:11 -0800
>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
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>>
>> Yeah she's reacting to something right now, but I'm not sure what so far.
>> I
>> also ordered greenies and got a bag of dental chews. She had a dental chew
>> the day before yesterday and she ate a couple of greenies yesterday plus
>> the
>> bone she managed to eat. I'm not saying I give her a ton of treats because
>> I
>> don't but I'm figuring out what she can handle and what she can't since
>> she
>> has a very sensitive stomach it seems...
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Larry D. Keeler
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 8:13 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>>
>> They must have been. My dogs tear those things up but the nyla bones just
>> get chewed and become rough. Wonderful things to step on! So far, I've
>> never worried about those edible things. My dogs haven't gotten sick from
>> them yet, even though they wolf them down!
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:50 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>>
>>
>>> Julie,
>>> I believe they were the edible bones but I didn't know that when I
>>> ordered it. I'm definitely staying away from them now /smile/.
>>> Thank you
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Julie J.
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:20 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>>>
>>> Hannah,
>>>
>>> Were the bones intended to be eaten or were they the sort to only be
>>> chewed?
>>> There are bones or hard chews that are made to actually be eaten.
>>> Greenies
>>> and these things made with corn starch come to mind.
>>> then there are bones intended to only be chewed that don't or
>>> shouldn't go to pieces.
>>>
>>> If you bought the first type Princess should be fine unless she
>>> swallowed a huge chunk or the ingredients don't agree with her. Given
>>> your difficulties with her digestion, I think I'd stay away from this
>>> sort of thing. If the bone was the variety that isn't supposed to be
>>> eaten and she swallowed big pieces, you could have a problem. Sorry,
>>> I don't mean to worry you.
>>>
>>> I think if it were me, I'd find out what the friend finds out from the
>>> vet who looks at the other uneaten bone and do whatever the vet
>>> suggests. I think I'd also stay far away from edible bones in the
>>> future.
>>>
>>> Let us know how it turns out,
>>> Julie
>>>
>>>
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>> Message: 32
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:36:03 -0800
>> From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>> Message-ID: <8F54E183EAA44B8E90A84BD00E3EF3DB at stanford.edu>
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>>
>> You don't need to give your dog more than one greenie at a time. If you
>> are
>> talking about the toothbrush shaped treats, you only need to give those
>> about twice a week.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 8:32 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>>
>>
>>> Yeah she's reacting to something right now, but I'm not sure what so far.
>>> I
>>> also ordered greenies and got a bag of dental chews. She had a dental
>>> chew
>>> the day before yesterday and she ate a couple of greenies yesterday plus
>>> the
>>> bone she managed to eat. I'm not saying I give her a ton of treats
>>> because
>>>
>>> I
>>> don't but I'm figuring out what she can handle and what she can't since
>>> she
>>> has a very sensitive stomach it seems...
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Larry D. Keeler
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 8:13 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>>>
>>> They must have been. My dogs tear those things up but the nyla bones
>>> just
>>> get chewed and become rough. Wonderful things to step on! So far, I've
>>> never worried about those edible things. My dogs haven't gotten sick
>>> from
>>> them yet, even though they wolf them down!
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:50 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Julie,
>>>> I believe they were the edible bones but I didn't know that when I
>>>> ordered it. I'm definitely staying away from them now /smile/.
>>>> Thank you
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of Julie J.
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:20 AM
>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>>>>
>>>> Hannah,
>>>>
>>>> Were the bones intended to be eaten or were they the sort to only be
>>>> chewed?
>>>> There are bones or hard chews that are made to actually be eaten.
>>>> Greenies
>>>> and these things made with corn starch come to mind.
>>>> then there are bones intended to only be chewed that don't or
>>>> shouldn't go to pieces.
>>>>
>>>> If you bought the first type Princess should be fine unless she
>>>> swallowed a huge chunk or the ingredients don't agree with her. Given
>>>> your difficulties with her digestion, I think I'd stay away from this
>>>> sort of thing. If the bone was the variety that isn't supposed to be
>>>> eaten and she swallowed big pieces, you could have a problem. Sorry,
>>>> I don't mean to worry you.
>>>>
>>>> I think if it were me, I'd find out what the friend finds out from the
>>>> vet who looks at the other uneaten bone and do whatever the vet
>>>> suggests. I think I'd also stay far away from edible bones in the
>>>> future.
>>>>
>>>> Let us know how it turns out,
>>>> Julie
>>>>
>>>>
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>>
>>
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>>
>> Message: 33
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:45:48 -0700
>> From: "Rachel Krieg" <serenityangel1983 at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] another update
>> Message-ID: <18577153745E4B0A9FDFBDD8EDCF2552 at yourfsyly0jtwn>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=original
>>
>> Hi, Hannah.
>>
>> I am on the waiting list for Pilot, but when I talked to Jay earlier this
>> month, he said they had a shortage of dogs.
>> Rachel
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 9:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] another update
>>
>>
>>> Rachael,
>>> Aren't you on the waiting list for Pilot? Seems like you should get in
>>> soon
>>> if you're already a graduate from there...
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Rachel Krieg
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 5:42 PM
>>> To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;
>>> Subject: [nagdu] another update
>>>
>>> Hi, all.
>>>
>>> My interview with GDA went okay. I haven't been accepted or denied. They
>>> need me to work on my street crossings and increasing my stamina. I am
>>> disappointed, but will do whatever it takes as I desperately want another
>>> dog.
>>> Rachel
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>> Message: 34
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:56:42 +0000
>> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>> Message-ID: <AAE38548E198F64B8E345439B68CCC7832F7C94E at TSEAMB02>
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>>
>> I freaked out when my dog ate an edible bone that I didn't know was
>> edible.
>> So yes, it's scary when you don't know that that is the type you've
>> gotten.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Hannah Chadwick
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:50 AM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>>
>> Julie,
>> I believe they were the edible bones but I didn't know that when I ordered
>> it. I'm definitely staying away from them now /smile/.
>> Thank you
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Julie J.
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:20 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>>
>> Hannah,
>>
>> Were the bones intended to be eaten or were they the sort to only be
>> chewed?
>> There are bones or hard chews that are made to actually be eaten.
>> Greenies
>> and these things made with corn starch come to mind.
>> then there are bones intended to only be chewed that don't or shouldn't go
>> to pieces.
>>
>> If you bought the first type Princess should be fine unless she swallowed
>> a
>> huge chunk or the ingredients don't agree with her. Given your
>> difficulties
>> with her digestion, I think I'd stay away from this sort of thing. If the
>> bone was the variety that isn't supposed to be eaten and she swallowed big
>> pieces, you could have a problem. Sorry, I don't mean to worry you.
>>
>> I think if it were me, I'd find out what the friend finds out from the vet
>> who looks at the other uneaten bone and do whatever the vet suggests. I
>> think I'd also stay far away from edible bones in the future.
>>
>> Let us know how it turns out,
>> Julie
>>
>>
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>> Message: 35
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 17:07:03 +0000
>> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Returning to List
>> Message-ID: <AAE38548E198F64B8E345439B68CCC7832F7C9C8 at TSEAMB02>
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>>
>> And you.
>> I am not kidding when I say adjusting to being a mom was easier, a whole
>> lot
>> easier.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Hannah Chadwick
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:49 AM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Returning to List
>>
>> Thank you Shanna. Princess is a great dog too but the adjustment period is
>> probably difficult on her.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Shanna Stichler
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:11 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Returning to List
>>
>> Hi Hannah,
>>
>> Bestt of luck with Princess. I have a friend who owns a black Poodle, and
>> he
>> is a wonderful dog!
>>
>> Take care,
>>
>> Shanna
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Hannah Chadwick
>> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 9:47 AM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Returning to List
>>
>> Welcome to the list Shanna. My name is Hannah and I recently got my first
>> dog, Princess. She is from Pilot dogs and she's a black poodle. I hope you
>> enjoy the list and I look forwaed to your posts.
>> Best, Hannah and Princess
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Shanna Stichler
>> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 6:54 AM
>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [nagdu] Returning to List
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> My name is Shanna, and I used to post on this list a few years ago. I
>> stopped doing the listserv thing due to time constraints, but have a bit
>> more time to participate again.
>>
>> Anyway, I?m currently working Nestl?, a female black Labrador trained at
>> GDB?s San Rafael campus. Up until a couple months ago, I worked for that
>> organization in their Training Department, but left in order to further
>> pursue a PHD.
>>
>> My current dog is about to turn 8, so I am beginning the process of
>> planning
>> for her retirement, whenever that may be. I am seriously considering
>> owner-training my next dog, hence the advance preparation. I think there
>> are
>> some owner-trainers on list, so I?m hoping to use this forum as a
>> resource.
>>
>> I look forward to meeting all of you and contributing where I can.
>>
>> Best,
>> Shanna
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>> Message: 36
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:47:22 -0500
>> From: Buddy Brannan <buddy at brannan.name>
>> To: the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: [nagdu] Aftershokz Headphones Review Posted
>> Message-ID: <451EF8BA-ACB0-4DA4-A506-BBF371FEF9AF at brannan.name>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Last month, I posted about the Aftershokz bone conduction headphones.
>> Well,
>> I got mine, and I love them! Here is the review of the headphones by me
>> and
>> Mike Calvo:
>>
>> http://serotalk.com/2012/02/21/a-review-of-the-aftershockz-bone-conduction-headphones/
>>
>> Again, you will need an adapter to use these with the Kapten Plus. I have
>> not tried this yet, but I see no reason it would be a problem.
>>
>> --
>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 37
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:49:24 -0500
>> From: "loriandleo" <loriandleo at ohiohills.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems
>> Message-ID: <006a01ccf18a$acf63820$88dbe504 at o4r3f1>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> Hi Nicole,
>>
>> What is a goughnut? Thanks.
>>
>> Lori and the Gipper
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 38
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:55:27 -0800
>> From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Aftershokz Headphones Review Posted
>> Message-ID: <54F84340E3E843D7868AE37010D7D19A at stanford.edu>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=original
>>
>> Um, I think that you may have meant to send this to a different list???
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Buddy Brannan" <buddy at brannan.name>
>> To: "the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 9:47 AM
>> Subject: [nagdu] Aftershokz Headphones Review Posted
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Last month, I posted about the Aftershokz bone conduction headphones.
>>> Well, I got mine, and I love them! Here is the review of the headphones
>>> by
>>>
>>> me and Mike Calvo:
>>>
>>> http://serotalk.com/2012/02/21/a-review-of-the-aftershockz-bone-conduction-headphones/
>>>
>>> Again, you will need an adapter to use these with the Kapten Plus. I have
>>> not tried this yet, but I see no reason it would be a problem.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>> Message: 39
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:56:43 -0600
>> From: "Shanna Stichler" <slstich at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Returning to List
>> Message-ID: <50DF191198D24C899336EE124752365D at ShannaPC>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8";
>> reply-type=original
>>
>> I think the adjustment is hard for all involved, dog and handler. I
>> remember
>> feeling completely overwhelmed at times with my first guide. WE eventually
>> found our rhythm, but it definitely took more time than I expected it
>> would.
>>
>> Shanna
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:07 AM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Returning to List
>>
>> And you.
>> I am not kidding when I say adjusting to being a mom was easier, a whole
>> lot
>> easier.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Hannah Chadwick
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:49 AM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Returning to List
>>
>> Thank you Shanna. Princess is a great dog too but the adjustment period is
>> probably difficult on her.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Shanna Stichler
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:11 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Returning to List
>>
>> Hi Hannah,
>>
>> Bestt of luck with Princess. I have a friend who owns a black Poodle, and
>> he
>> is a wonderful dog!
>>
>> Take care,
>>
>> Shanna
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Hannah Chadwick
>> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 9:47 AM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Returning to List
>>
>> Welcome to the list Shanna. My name is Hannah and I recently got my first
>> dog, Princess. She is from Pilot dogs and she's a black poodle. I hope you
>> enjoy the list and I look forwaed to your posts.
>> Best, Hannah and Princess
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Shanna Stichler
>> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 6:54 AM
>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [nagdu] Returning to List
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> My name is Shanna, and I used to post on this list a few years ago. I
>> stopped doing the listserv thing due to time constraints, but have a bit
>> more time to participate again.
>>
>> Anyway, I?m currently working Nestl?, a female black Labrador trained at
>> GDB?s
>> San Rafael campus. Up until a couple months ago, I worked for that
>> organization in their Training Department, but left in order to further
>> pursue a PHD.
>>
>> My current dog is about to turn 8, so I am beginning the process of
>> planning
>> for her retirement, whenever that may be. I am seriously considering
>> owner-training my next dog, hence the advance preparation. I think there
>> are
>> some owner-trainers on list, so I?m hoping to use this forum as a
>> resource.
>>
>> I look forward to meeting all of you and contributing where I can.
>>
>> Best,
>> Shanna
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 23:58:32 -0800
> From: Juanita Herrera <juanitaherrera1991 at gmail.com>
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] meating the puppy raisers
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> Hi,
> I went to Guide Dogs For The Blind, and we get to meet the puppy
> raisers on the day of graduation as well. I keep in touch with Anise's
> puppy raisers on a regular basis, and they certainly have helped with
> recommendations as to what Anise does or doesn't like. For instance,
> they told me what toothpaste she prefers, and they even sent her home
> with some of the toys she had when she was with them. I really think
> that being able to stay in touch with the puppy raisers is an
> essential thing.
> Best Wishes,
> Juanita And Anise
>
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>> 1. Re: Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems (Cindy Ray)
>> 2. meating the puppy raisers (Lea williams)
>> 3. Re: Returning to List (Hannah Chadwick)
>> 4. Re: has this happened to anyone else? (Tracy Carcione)
>> 5. Re: meating the puppy raisers (Cindy Ray)
>> 6. Re: Aftershokz Headphones Review Posted (Buddy Brannan)
>> 7. Re: Aftershokz Headphones Review Posted (Margo and Arrow)
>> 8. Re: Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems (Nicole B. Torcolini at Home)
>> 9. Re: meating the puppy raisers (Hannah Chadwick)
>> 10. Re: Aftershokz Headphones Review Posted
>> (Nicole B. Torcolini at Home)
>> 11. Re: has this happened to anyone else? (Hannah Chadwick)
>> 12. Re: Aftershokz Headphones Review Posted (Buddy Brannan)
>> 13. Re: meeting the puppy raisers (Shanna Stichler)
>> 14. Re: has this happened to anyone else? (Mark J. Cadigan)
>> 15. Re: has this happened to anyone else? (Hannah Chadwick)
>> 16. Re: Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems (Cindy Ray)
>> 17. Re: Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems (Nicole B. Torcolini at Home)
>> 18. Re: Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems (Cindy Ray)
>> 19. Re: Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems (Larry D. Keeler)
>> 20. goughnut (Cindy Ray)
>> 21. Re: meeting the puppy raisers (Tracy Carcione)
>> 22. Re: meeting the puppy raisers (Cindy Ray)
>> 23. Re: Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems (Cindy Ray)
>> 24. Re: Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems (Nicole B. Torcolini at Home)
>> 25. Re: Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems (Tracy Carcione)
>> 26. Re: Canine flu vaccine (Tracy Carcione)
>> 27. Re: Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems (William Vandervest)
>> 28. Re: Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems (William Vandervest)
>> 29. Re: Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems (Larry D. Keeler)
>> 30. Re: Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems (Larry D. Keeler)
>> 31. Re: Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems (Larry D. Keeler)
>> 32. guide dog cargo while on the go. (Lea williams)
>> 33. Re: Fw: Article: From the Boston Globe (Natalie)
>> 34. Re: guide dog cargo while on the go. (Marsha Drenth)
>> 35. Re: guide dog cargo while on the go. (Larry D. Keeler)
>> 36. Re: has this happened to anyone else? (Sheila Leigland)
>> 37. Re: has this happened to anyone else? (Criminal Justice Major)
>> 38. Re: guide dog cargo while on the go. (Lea williams)
>> 39. Re: Fw: Article: From the Boston Globe (Mark J. Cadigan)
>> 40. Re: meating the puppy raisers (Sheila Leigland)
>> 41. Re: guide dog cargo while on the go. (Nicole B. Torcolini at Home)
>> 42. Re: meating the puppy raisers (Nicole B. Torcolini at Home)
>> 43. Re: meating the puppy raisers (Hannah Chadwick)
>> 44. Re: guide dog cargo while on the go. (Larry D. Keeler)
>> 45. Re: guide dog cargo while on the go. (Larry D. Keeler)
>> 46. Re: New Guide Dog Usser (Juanita Herrera)
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:08:20 -0600
>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems
>> Message-ID: <E1E87C82-4963-477F-BB27-F0CF4DF41CEF at gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>> A goughnut is a rubber toy--stick, ring, or ball--in a few sizes. You can
>> get them from doughnuts.com, which may not be quite right, and they may be
>> purchased other places, but that's where they seem to originate. They have
>> a
>> red/green indicator, red being stop, green being go. If it is freen, the
>> thing is in good shape; if it turns red, you want to not let the dog have
>> it
>> anymore because the toy has been compromised. They have a lifetime
>> guarantee. I bought a couple of the sticks.
>>
>>
>> On Feb 22, 2012, at 11:49 AM, loriandleo wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Nicole,
>>>
>>> What is a goughnut? Thanks.
>>>
>>> Lori and the Gipper
>>>
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 13:04:37 -0500
>> From: Lea williams <leanicole1988 at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: [nagdu] meating the puppy raisers
>> Message-ID:
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>>
>> Hey i am not sure how this works with all the schools, but when do you
>> normally get to meet the puppy raisers?
>>
>> I know how the school I am going to does it. I am going to guiding
>> eyes and we do on graduation day.
>>
>> After reading a few emails on here I got to wonder why people can't
>> asked the puppy raisers what kind of toys and things that their dog
>> might like rather than having to try to figure it out completely
>> themselves?
>> I asked one about it and was told that Pilot won't let you meet the
>> raisers until after six months.
>>
>> How do you feel about how your school does this? Do you mind or not?
>> Would you rather it different?
>> What were some benifits to meeting your puppy raisers? What kinds of
>> things did you learn about your dog when you did?
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:16:55 -0800
>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Returning to List
>> Message-ID: <004e01ccf18e$29406d80$7bc14880$@gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> Yes, I definitely will have to agree with that
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Shanna Stichler
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 9:57 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Returning to List
>>
>> I think the adjustment is hard for all involved, dog and handler. I
>> remember
>> feeling completely overwhelmed at times with my first guide. WE eventually
>> found our rhythm, but it definitely took more time than I expected it
>> would.
>>
>> Shanna
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:07 AM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Returning to List
>>
>> And you.
>> I am not kidding when I say adjusting to being a mom was easier, a whole
>> lot
>> easier.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Hannah Chadwick
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:49 AM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Returning to List
>>
>> Thank you Shanna. Princess is a great dog too but the adjustment period is
>> probably difficult on her.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Shanna Stichler
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:11 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Returning to List
>>
>> Hi Hannah,
>>
>> Bestt of luck with Princess. I have a friend who owns a black Poodle, and
>> he
>> is a wonderful dog!
>>
>> Take care,
>>
>> Shanna
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Hannah Chadwick
>> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 9:47 AM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Returning to List
>>
>> Welcome to the list Shanna. My name is Hannah and I recently got my first
>> dog, Princess. She is from Pilot dogs and she's a black poodle. I hope you
>> enjoy the list and I look forwaed to your posts.
>> Best, Hannah and Princess
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Shanna Stichler
>> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 6:54 AM
>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [nagdu] Returning to List
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> My name is Shanna, and I used to post on this list a few years ago. I
>> stopped doing the listserv thing due to time constraints, but have a bit
>> more time to participate again.
>>
>> Anyway, I?m currently working Nestl?, a female black Labrador trained at
>> GDB?s
>> San Rafael campus. Up until a couple months ago, I worked for that
>> organization in their Training Department, but left in order to further
>> pursue a PHD.
>>
>> My current dog is about to turn 8, so I am beginning the process of
>> planning
>> for her retirement, whenever that may be. I am seriously considering
>> owner-training my next dog, hence the advance preparation. I think there
>> are
>> some owner-trainers on list, so I?m hoping to use this forum as a
>> resource.
>>
>> I look forward to meeting all of you and contributing where I can.
>>
>> Best,
>> Shanna
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 13:17:32 -0500
>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
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>> Hi Hannah.
>> Isn't she just getting over a bout of the runs, requiring a bland diet?
>> I'd withhold any new food for at least a couple weeks, and then only give
>> a new food one at a time. Of course, you didn't know she'd snarf the
>> bone. Still, you know she has reactions to food, so go easy when you give
>> her something new. One new thing, like a greenie, rather than two.
>> Tracy
>>
>>
>>> Yeah she's reacting to something right now, but I'm not sure what so far.
>>> I
>>> also ordered greenies and got a bag of dental chews. She had a dental
>>> chew
>>> the day before yesterday and she ate a couple of greenies yesterday plus
>>> the
>>> bone she managed to eat. I'm not saying I give her a ton of treats
>>> because
>>> I
>>> don't but I'm figuring out what she can handle and what she can't since
>>> she
>>> has a very sensitive stomach it seems...
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Larry D. Keeler
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 8:13 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>>>
>>> They must have been. My dogs tear those things up but the nyla bones
>>> just
>>> get chewed and become rough. Wonderful things to step on! So far, I've
>>> never worried about those edible things. My dogs haven't gotten sick
>>> from
>>> them yet, even though they wolf them down!
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:50 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Julie,
>>>> I believe they were the edible bones but I didn't know that when I
>>>> ordered it. I'm definitely staying away from them now /smile/.
>>>> Thank you
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of Julie J.
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:20 AM
>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>>>>
>>>> Hannah,
>>>>
>>>> Were the bones intended to be eaten or were they the sort to only be
>>>> chewed?
>>>> There are bones or hard chews that are made to actually be eaten.
>>>> Greenies
>>>> and these things made with corn starch come to mind.
>>>> then there are bones intended to only be chewed that don't or
>>>> shouldn't go to pieces.
>>>>
>>>> If you bought the first type Princess should be fine unless she
>>>> swallowed a huge chunk or the ingredients don't agree with her. Given
>>>> your difficulties with her digestion, I think I'd stay away from this
>>>> sort of thing. If the bone was the variety that isn't supposed to be
>>>> eaten and she swallowed big pieces, you could have a problem. Sorry,
>>>> I don't mean to worry you.
>>>>
>>>> I think if it were me, I'd find out what the friend finds out from the
>>>> vet who looks at the other uneaten bone and do whatever the vet
>>>> suggests. I think I'd also stay far away from edible bones in the
>>>> future.
>>>>
>>>> Let us know how it turns out,
>>>> Julie
>>>>
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:22:36 -0600
>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] meating the puppy raisers
>> Message-ID: <260355C9-5D1B-4FAC-82A9-9556C4BE4A1F at gmail.com>
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>> At TSE we don't meet the puppy raisers. They sometimes give some good
>> puppy
>> profiles that tell what the pups like; all of them don't. I don't mind
>> this
>> so much, though I wish I could personally write the person and thank that
>> person. You can write, but it goes to TSE and they take out stuff that
>> might
>> let the raiser know who you are. I think they do that anyway, but that
>> isn't
>> official and I don't mean to say something that isn't true. The raiser
>> gets
>> a picture of the pup when it is joined with a handler and the information
>> that it went to a female/male and in what part of the country, but unless
>> things have changed, that's about it. I'm good with it. I don't feel I
>> have
>> to hold myself up to any puppy raiser's standards and the dog is mine all
>> mine, and I think it is some better for the raiser, too, though different
>> of
>> them may feel differently about it.
>> Cindy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 13:41:38 -0500
>> From: Buddy Brannan <buddy at brannan.name>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Aftershokz Headphones Review Posted
>> Message-ID: <6421F360-9108-4BE1-BBE4-F4D35928B802 at brannan.name>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>> Nope. I definitely meant to send it here. I may have not sent the original
>> post here mentioning these headphones, but it really is relevant. Think of
>> using a talking GPS. Speaker placement is very difficult, and putting
>> things
>> over or in your ears isn't exactly the safest option. The Aftershokz
>> headphones would plug into your GPS, and they actually fit in front of
>> your
>> ears, not over them, and use your cheekbones to conduct the sound into
>> your
>> ears. Thus, you have the GPS directions (or whatever), and also don't
>> compromise hearing sound in your environment that would alert you to
>> trouble. Since these could potentially make travel with navigational aids
>> much safer, I believe it's certainly relevant.
>> --
>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 22, 2012, at 12:55 PM, "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home"
>> <ntorcolini at wavecable.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Um, I think that you may have meant to send this to a different list???
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Buddy Brannan" <buddy at brannan.name>
>>> To: "the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 9:47 AM
>>> Subject: [nagdu] Aftershokz Headphones Review Posted
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Last month, I posted about the Aftershokz bone conduction headphones.
>>>> Well, I got mine, and I love them! Here is the review of the headphones
>>>> by me and Mike Calvo:
>>>>
>>>> http://serotalk.com/2012/02/21/a-review-of-the-aftershockz-bone-conduction-headphones/
>>>>
>>>> Again, you will need an adapter to use these with the Kapten Plus. I
>>>> have
>>>> not tried this yet, but I see no reason it would be a problem.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>>>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>> Message: 7
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 13:49:28 -0500
>> From: "Margo and Arrow" <margo.downey at verizon.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Aftershokz Headphones Review Posted
>> Message-ID: <BB0E8EA703E9485D8C03FF740142201A at margoda7a829ca>
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>> reply-type=original
>>
>> I think it's relevant, especially when your ears can be freed to listen
>> for
>> those things one's ears listen to.
>>
>> Buddy, let's see, how to ask this question. the Aftershokz are in front
>> of
>> your ears. What's it like, say, to hear something your gps is saying and
>> something you are listening for with your ears such as traffic. By the
>> headphones not being over or in your ears, do the sounds have the same
>> volume? Does your brain seem to process the two sounds as more separated
>> than, say, if the headphones were over or in your ears?
>>
>> Margo and Arrow
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Buddy Brannan" <buddy at brannan.name>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 1:41 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Aftershokz Headphones Review Posted
>>
>>
>>> Nope. I definitely meant to send it here. I may have not sent the
>>> original
>>>
>>> post here mentioning these headphones, but it really is relevant. Think
>>> of
>>>
>>> using a talking GPS. Speaker placement is very difficult, and putting
>>> things over or in your ears isn't exactly the safest option. The
>>> Aftershokz headphones would plug into your GPS, and they actually fit in
>>> front of your ears, not over them, and use your cheekbones to conduct the
>>> sound into your ears. Thus, you have the GPS directions (or whatever),
>>> and
>>>
>>> also don't compromise hearing sound in your environment that would alert
>>> you to trouble. Since these could potentially make travel with
>>> navigational aids much safer, I believe it's certainly relevant.
>>> --
>>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 22, 2012, at 12:55 PM, "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home"
>>> <ntorcolini at wavecable.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Um, I think that you may have meant to send this to a different list???
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Buddy Brannan" <buddy at brannan.name>
>>>> To: "the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 9:47 AM
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Aftershokz Headphones Review Posted
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Last month, I posted about the Aftershokz bone conduction headphones.
>>>>> Well, I got mine, and I love them! Here is the review of the headphones
>>>>> by me and Mike Calvo:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://serotalk.com/2012/02/21/a-review-of-the-aftershockz-bone-conduction-headphones/
>>>>>
>>>>> Again, you will need an adapter to use these with the Kapten Plus. I
>>>>> have not tried this yet, but I see no reason it would be a problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>>>>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>> Message: 8
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:53:38 -0800
>> From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems
>> Message-ID: <BB69557B15EA44E6BD61B4DCF1E16BDD at stanford.edu>
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>>
>> Oh, and be careful, not about the dog, but about yourself. Do not leave
>> them
>> laying around the house. I have stepped on one before and it almost rolled
>> out from under my foot and landed me on the floor.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:08 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems
>>
>>
>>>A goughnut is a rubber toy--stick, ring, or ball--in a few sizes. You can
>>>get them from doughnuts.com, which may not be quite right, and they may be
>>>purchased other places, but that's where they seem to originate. They have
>>>a red/green indicator, red being stop, green being go. If it is freen, the
>>>thing is in good shape; if it turns red, you want to not let the dog have
>>>it anymore because the toy has been compromised. They have a lifetime
>>>guarantee. I bought a couple of the sticks.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 22, 2012, at 11:49 AM, loriandleo wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Nicole,
>>>>
>>>> What is a goughnut? Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Lori and the Gipper
>>>>
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>> Message: 9
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:54:52 -0800
>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] meating the puppy raisers
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>> Yes, I would definitely love to thank Princess's raiser.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Cindy Ray
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:23 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] meating the puppy raisers
>>
>> At TSE we don't meet the puppy raisers. They sometimes give some good
>> puppy
>> profiles that tell what the pups like; all of them don't. I don't mind
>> this
>> so much, though I wish I could personally write the person and thank that
>> person. You can write, but it goes to TSE and they take out stuff that
>> might
>> let the raiser know who you are. I think they do that anyway, but that
>> isn't
>> official and I don't mean to say something that isn't true. The raiser
>> gets
>> a picture of the pup when it is joined with a handler and the information
>> that it went to a female/male and in what part of the country, but unless
>> things have changed, that's about it. I'm good with it. I don't feel I
>> have
>> to hold myself up to any puppy raiser's standards and the dog is mine all
>> mine, and I think it is some better for the raiser, too, though different
>> of
>> them may feel differently about it.
>> Cindy
>>
>>
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>> Message: 10
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:55:41 -0800
>> From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Aftershokz Headphones Review Posted
>> Message-ID: <EBA8F43ABD454A089ABD0FB7E38137B8 at stanford.edu>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=original
>>
>> Oh, sorry for the misunderstanding.
>>
>> Have a nice day,
>> Nicole
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Buddy Brannan" <buddy at brannan.name>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:41 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Aftershokz Headphones Review Posted
>>
>>
>>> Nope. I definitely meant to send it here. I may have not sent the
>>> original
>>>
>>> post here mentioning these headphones, but it really is relevant. Think
>>> of
>>>
>>> using a talking GPS. Speaker placement is very difficult, and putting
>>> things over or in your ears isn't exactly the safest option. The
>>> Aftershokz headphones would plug into your GPS, and they actually fit in
>>> front of your ears, not over them, and use your cheekbones to conduct the
>>> sound into your ears. Thus, you have the GPS directions (or whatever),
>>> and
>>>
>>> also don't compromise hearing sound in your environment that would alert
>>> you to trouble. Since these could potentially make travel with
>>> navigational aids much safer, I believe it's certainly relevant.
>>> --
>>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 22, 2012, at 12:55 PM, "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home"
>>> <ntorcolini at wavecable.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Um, I think that you may have meant to send this to a different list???
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Buddy Brannan" <buddy at brannan.name>
>>>> To: "the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 9:47 AM
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Aftershokz Headphones Review Posted
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Last month, I posted about the Aftershokz bone conduction headphones.
>>>>> Well, I got mine, and I love them! Here is the review of the headphones
>>>>> by me and Mike Calvo:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://serotalk.com/2012/02/21/a-review-of-the-aftershockz-bone-conduction-headphones/
>>>>>
>>>>> Again, you will need an adapter to use these with the Kapten Plus. I
>>>>> have not tried this yet, but I see no reason it would be a problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>>>>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>> Message: 11
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:57:32 -0800
>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>> Message-ID: <006d01ccf193$d5eac080$81c04180$@gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Tracy,
>> She is off her diet and has been since last week.
>> she's had greenies before, but only one from Petco which didn't affect
>> her.
>> I ordered some but they feel different; I'm sure they have the same
>> ingredience though so it might not be them...
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Tracy Carcione
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:18 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>>
>> Hi Hannah.
>> Isn't she just getting over a bout of the runs, requiring a bland diet?
>> I'd withhold any new food for at least a couple weeks, and then only give
>> a
>> new food one at a time. Of course, you didn't know she'd snarf the bone.
>> Still, you know she has reactions to food, so go easy when you give her
>> something new. One new thing, like a greenie, rather than two.
>> Tracy
>>
>>
>>> Yeah she's reacting to something right now, but I'm not sure what so far.
>>> I
>>> also ordered greenies and got a bag of dental chews. She had a dental
>>> chew the day before yesterday and she ate a couple of greenies
>>> yesterday plus the bone she managed to eat. I'm not saying I give her
>>> a ton of treats because I don't but I'm figuring out what she can
>>> handle and what she can't since she has a very sensitive stomach it
>>> seems...
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Larry D. Keeler
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 8:13 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>>>
>>> They must have been. My dogs tear those things up but the nyla bones
>>> just get chewed and become rough. Wonderful things to step on! So
>>> far, I've never worried about those edible things. My dogs haven't
>>> gotten sick from them yet, even though they wolf them down!
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:50 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Julie,
>>>> I believe they were the edible bones but I didn't know that when I
>>>> ordered it. I'm definitely staying away from them now /smile/.
>>>> Thank you
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of Julie J.
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:20 AM
>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>>>>
>>>> Hannah,
>>>>
>>>> Were the bones intended to be eaten or were they the sort to only be
>>>> chewed?
>>>> There are bones or hard chews that are made to actually be eaten.
>>>> Greenies
>>>> and these things made with corn starch come to mind.
>>>> then there are bones intended to only be chewed that don't or
>>>> shouldn't go to pieces.
>>>>
>>>> If you bought the first type Princess should be fine unless she
>>>> swallowed a huge chunk or the ingredients don't agree with her.
>>>> Given your difficulties with her digestion, I think I'd stay away
>>>> from this sort of thing. If the bone was the variety that isn't
>>>> supposed to be eaten and she swallowed big pieces, you could have a
>>>> problem. Sorry, I don't mean to worry you.
>>>>
>>>> I think if it were me, I'd find out what the friend finds out from
>>>> the vet who looks at the other uneaten bone and do whatever the vet
>>>> suggests. I think I'd also stay far away from edible bones in the
>>>> future.
>>>>
>>>> Let us know how it turns out,
>>>> Julie
>>>>
>>>>
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>> Message: 12
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:02:18 -0500
>> From: Buddy Brannan <buddy at brannan.name>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Aftershokz Headphones Review Posted
>> Message-ID: <71EA787E-2AC4-45FC-85BD-4B45E4F41E3C at brannan.name>
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>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> It's odd. The sound from the headphones is in your ears. It's a full
>> stereo
>> image. But the sound of the outside world is also in your ears. Outside
>> sound can still drown out your headphones, if it's loud enough, but sound
>> from the headphones, if it gets loud enough, tickles, so you probably
>> won't
>> have it too loud for too long. It's kind of hard to explain, but you
>> really
>> do get both whatever's in the headphones and an undiminished hearing of
>> your
>> immediate surroundings as well.
>> --
>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 22, 2012, at 1:49 PM, "Margo and Arrow" <margo.downey at verizon.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I think it's relevant, especially when your ears can be freed to listen
>>> for those things one's ears listen to.
>>>
>>> Buddy, let's see, how to ask this question. the Aftershokz are in front
>>> of your ears. What's it like, say, to hear something your gps is saying
>>> and something you are listening for with your ears such as traffic. By
>>> the headphones not being over or in your ears, do the sounds have the
>>> same
>>> volume? Does your brain seem to process the two sounds as more separated
>>> than, say, if the headphones were over or in your ears?
>>>
>>> Margo and Arrow
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Buddy Brannan" <buddy at brannan.name>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 1:41 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Aftershokz Headphones Review Posted
>>>
>>>
>>>> Nope. I definitely meant to send it here. I may have not sent the
>>>> original post here mentioning these headphones, but it really is
>>>> relevant. Think of using a talking GPS. Speaker placement is very
>>>> difficult, and putting things over or in your ears isn't exactly the
>>>> safest option. The Aftershokz headphones would plug into your GPS, and
>>>> they actually fit in front of your ears, not over them, and use your
>>>> cheekbones to conduct the sound into your ears. Thus, you have the GPS
>>>> directions (or whatever), and also don't compromise hearing sound in
>>>> your
>>>> environment that would alert you to trouble. Since these could
>>>> potentially make travel with navigational aids much safer, I believe
>>>> it's
>>>> certainly relevant.
>>>> --
>>>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>>>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 22, 2012, at 12:55 PM, "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home"
>>>> <ntorcolini at wavecable.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Um, I think that you may have meant to send this to a different list???
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Buddy Brannan" <buddy at brannan.name>
>>>>> To: "the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 9:47 AM
>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Aftershokz Headphones Review Posted
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Last month, I posted about the Aftershokz bone conduction headphones.
>>>>>> Well, I got mine, and I love them! Here is the review of the
>>>>>> headphones
>>>>>> by me and Mike Calvo:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://serotalk.com/2012/02/21/a-review-of-the-aftershockz-bone-conduction-headphones/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Again, you will need an adapter to use these with the Kapten Plus. I
>>>>>> have not tried this yet, but I see no reason it would be a problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>>>>>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>
>> Message: 13
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:30:08 -0600
>> From: "Shanna Stichler" <slstich at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] meeting the puppy raisers
>> Message-ID: <EF934457A03F4F899BEA6D15770A8A66 at ShannaPC>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=original
>>
>> At GDB, we also got to meet the puppy raisers on graduation day. My dog's
>> raiser family is wonderful, and we keep in regular contact. I don't recall
>> asking them about toys and such, but with my dog it's pretty obvious what
>> she likes, I.E. everything. :)
>>
>> Meeting the raiser families can vary though..last time was great, the time
>> before not so much. Over all, while I am personally not much interested in
>> a
>> public graduation blitz, I enjoy meeting my dog's raisers, and would do it
>> again if I got another program dog.
>>
>> Shanna
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Lea williams
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 12:04 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: [nagdu] meating the puppy raisers
>>
>> Hey i am not sure how this works with all the schools, but when do you
>> normally get to meet the puppy raisers?
>>
>> I know how the school I am going to does it. I am going to guiding
>> eyes and we do on graduation day.
>>
>> After reading a few emails on here I got to wonder why people can't
>> asked the puppy raisers what kind of toys and things that their dog
>> might like rather than having to try to figure it out completely
>> themselves?
>> I asked one about it and was told that Pilot won't let you meet the
>> raisers until after six months.
>>
>> How do you feel about how your school does this? Do you mind or not?
>> Would you rather it different?
>> What were some benifits to meeting your puppy raisers? What kinds of
>> things did you learn about your dog when you did?
>>
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>> Message: 14
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:02:56 -0500
>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>> Message-ID: <D03EE5C32B3548448B1239EAA4465909 at cadiganpc>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=original
>>
>> the greanys I got on Amazon were softer than the individual ones I get at
>> the pet store. I think they are fresher or moister or something.
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 1:57 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>>
>>
>>> Tracy,
>>> She is off her diet and has been since last week.
>>> she's had greenies before, but only one from Petco which didn't affect
>>> her.
>>> I ordered some but they feel different; I'm sure they have the same
>>> ingredience though so it might not be them...
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Tracy Carcione
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:18 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>>>
>>> Hi Hannah.
>>> Isn't she just getting over a bout of the runs, requiring a bland diet?
>>> I'd withhold any new food for at least a couple weeks, and then only give
>>> a
>>> new food one at a time. Of course, you didn't know she'd snarf the bone.
>>> Still, you know she has reactions to food, so go easy when you give her
>>> something new. One new thing, like a greenie, rather than two.
>>> Tracy
>>>
>>>
>>>> Yeah she's reacting to something right now, but I'm not sure what so
>>>> far.
>>>> I
>>>> also ordered greenies and got a bag of dental chews. She had a dental
>>>> chew the day before yesterday and she ate a couple of greenies
>>>> yesterday plus the bone she managed to eat. I'm not saying I give her
>>>> a ton of treats because I don't but I'm figuring out what she can
>>>> handle and what she can't since she has a very sensitive stomach it
>>>> seems...
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of Larry D. Keeler
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 8:13 AM
>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>>>>
>>>> They must have been. My dogs tear those things up but the nyla bones
>>>> just get chewed and become rough. Wonderful things to step on! So
>>>> far, I've never worried about those edible things. My dogs haven't
>>>> gotten sick from them yet, even though they wolf them down!
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:50 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Julie,
>>>>> I believe they were the edible bones but I didn't know that when I
>>>>> ordered it. I'm definitely staying away from them now /smile/.
>>>>> Thank you
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>> Behalf Of Julie J.
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:20 AM
>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hannah,
>>>>>
>>>>> Were the bones intended to be eaten or were they the sort to only be
>>>>> chewed?
>>>>> There are bones or hard chews that are made to actually be eaten.
>>>>> Greenies
>>>>> and these things made with corn starch come to mind.
>>>>> then there are bones intended to only be chewed that don't or
>>>>> shouldn't go to pieces.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you bought the first type Princess should be fine unless she
>>>>> swallowed a huge chunk or the ingredients don't agree with her.
>>>>> Given your difficulties with her digestion, I think I'd stay away
>>>>> from this sort of thing. If the bone was the variety that isn't
>>>>> supposed to be eaten and she swallowed big pieces, you could have a
>>>>> problem. Sorry, I don't mean to worry you.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think if it were me, I'd find out what the friend finds out from
>>>>> the vet who looks at the other uneaten bone and do whatever the vet
>>>>> suggests. I think I'd also stay far away from edible bones in the
>>>>> future.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let us know how it turns out,
>>>>> Julie
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>> Message: 15
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:06:34 -0800
>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>> Message-ID: <008301ccf195$19096910$4b1c3b30$@gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Yes, the ones I got off of Amazon are more in the shape of a toothbrush
>> lol
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Mark J. Cadigan
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:03 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>>
>> the greanys I got on Amazon were softer than the individual ones I get at
>> the pet store. I think they are fresher or moister or something.
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 1:57 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>>
>>
>>> Tracy,
>>> She is off her diet and has been since last week.
>>> she's had greenies before, but only one from Petco which didn't affect
>>> her.
>>> I ordered some but they feel different; I'm sure they have the same
>>> ingredience though so it might not be them...
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Tracy Carcione
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:18 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>>>
>>> Hi Hannah.
>>> Isn't she just getting over a bout of the runs, requiring a bland diet?
>>> I'd withhold any new food for at least a couple weeks, and then only give
>>> a
>>> new food one at a time. Of course, you didn't know she'd snarf the bone.
>>> Still, you know she has reactions to food, so go easy when you give her
>>> something new. One new thing, like a greenie, rather than two.
>>> Tracy
>>>
>>>
>>>> Yeah she's reacting to something right now, but I'm not sure what so
>>>> far.
>>>> I
>>>> also ordered greenies and got a bag of dental chews. She had a dental
>>>> chew the day before yesterday and she ate a couple of greenies
>>>> yesterday plus the bone she managed to eat. I'm not saying I give her
>>>> a ton of treats because I don't but I'm figuring out what she can
>>>> handle and what she can't since she has a very sensitive stomach it
>>>> seems...
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of Larry D. Keeler
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 8:13 AM
>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>>>>
>>>> They must have been. My dogs tear those things up but the nyla bones
>>>> just get chewed and become rough. Wonderful things to step on! So
>>>> far, I've never worried about those edible things. My dogs haven't
>>>> gotten sick from them yet, even though they wolf them down!
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:50 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Julie,
>>>>> I believe they were the edible bones but I didn't know that when I
>>>>> ordered it. I'm definitely staying away from them now /smile/.
>>>>> Thank you
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>> Behalf Of Julie J.
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:20 AM
>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hannah,
>>>>>
>>>>> Were the bones intended to be eaten or were they the sort to only be
>>>>> chewed?
>>>>> There are bones or hard chews that are made to actually be eaten.
>>>>> Greenies
>>>>> and these things made with corn starch come to mind.
>>>>> then there are bones intended to only be chewed that don't or
>>>>> shouldn't go to pieces.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you bought the first type Princess should be fine unless she
>>>>> swallowed a huge chunk or the ingredients don't agree with her.
>>>>> Given your difficulties with her digestion, I think I'd stay away
>>>>> from this sort of thing. If the bone was the variety that isn't
>>>>> supposed to be eaten and she swallowed big pieces, you could have a
>>>>> problem. Sorry, I don't mean to worry you.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think if it were me, I'd find out what the friend finds out from
>>>>> the vet who looks at the other uneaten bone and do whatever the vet
>>>>> suggests. I think I'd also stay far away from edible bones in the
>>>>> future.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let us know how it turns out,
>>>>> Julie
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> ail.co
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>> Message: 16
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 13:08:26 -0600
>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems
>> Message-ID: <8FB2DF51-FD68-4F89-89C7-9BCBC55F6780 at gmail.com>
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>>
>> OOO, that sounds like f u n!
>>
>> On Feb 22, 2012, at 12:53 PM, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home wrote:
>>
>>> Oh, and be careful, not about the dog, but about yourself. Do not leave
>>> them laying around the house. I have stepped on one before and it almost
>>> rolled out from under my foot and landed me on the floor.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:08 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems
>>>
>>>
>>>> A goughnut is a rubber toy--stick, ring, or ball--in a few sizes. You
>>>> can
>>>> get them from doughnuts.com, which may not be quite right, and they may
>>>> be purchased other places, but that's where they seem to originate. They
>>>> have a red/green indicator, red being stop, green being go. If it is
>>>> freen, the thing is in good shape; if it turns red, you want to not let
>>>> the dog have it anymore because the toy has been compromised. They have
>>>> a
>>>> lifetime guarantee. I bought a couple of the sticks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 22, 2012, at 11:49 AM, loriandleo wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Nicole,
>>>>>
>>>>> What is a goughnut? Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lori and the Gipper
>>>>>
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>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 17
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:10:42 -0800
>> From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems
>> Message-ID: <1070849E25024047A59FEAC34792095C at stanford.edu>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=original
>>
>> LOL, until you break your neck...
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:08 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems
>>
>>
>>> OOO, that sounds like f u n!
>>>
>>> On Feb 22, 2012, at 12:53 PM, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home wrote:
>>>
>>>> Oh, and be careful, not about the dog, but about yourself. Do not leave
>>>> them laying around the house. I have stepped on one before and it almost
>>>> rolled out from under my foot and landed me on the floor.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:08 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> A goughnut is a rubber toy--stick, ring, or ball--in a few sizes. You
>>>>> can get them from doughnuts.com, which may not be quite right, and they
>>>>> may be purchased other places, but that's where they seem to originate.
>>>>> They have a red/green indicator, red being stop, green being go. If it
>>>>> is freen, the thing is in good shape; if it turns red, you want to not
>>>>> let the dog have it anymore because the toy has been compromised. They
>>>>> have a lifetime guarantee. I bought a couple of the sticks.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 22, 2012, at 11:49 AM, loriandleo wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Nicole,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What is a goughnut? Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lori and the Gipper
>>>>>>
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>>
>> Message: 18
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 13:13:14 -0600
>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems
>> Message-ID: <C05D01BB-6823-4920-8F1B-7DFC52036720 at gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>> Mine feels broken already so not sure I'd notice.
>>
>>
>> On Feb 22, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home wrote:
>>
>>> LOL, until you break your neck...
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:08 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems
>>>
>>>
>>>> OOO, that sounds like f u n!
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 22, 2012, at 12:53 PM, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Oh, and be careful, not about the dog, but about yourself. Do not leave
>>>>> them laying around the house. I have stepped on one before and it
>>>>> almost
>>>>> rolled out from under my foot and landed me on the floor.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:08 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> A goughnut is a rubber toy--stick, ring, or ball--in a few sizes. You
>>>>>> can get them from doughnuts.com, which may not be quite right, and
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> may be purchased other places, but that's where they seem to
>>>>>> originate.
>>>>>> They have a red/green indicator, red being stop, green being go. If it
>>>>>> is freen, the thing is in good shape; if it turns red, you want to not
>>>>>> let the dog have it anymore because the toy has been compromised. They
>>>>>> have a lifetime guarantee. I bought a couple of the sticks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 22, 2012, at 11:49 AM, loriandleo wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Nicole,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What is a goughnut? Thanks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lori and the Gipper
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
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>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 19
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:19:17 -0500
>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems
>> Message-ID: <571BABAA87A34146BBA456D5EFAF800B at yourec0540d030>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=original
>>
>> Wigh me its squeaky toys at about 3 A.M. You know those that squeak
>> loudly
>> and stay slimy! Wakes you right up!
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 2:08 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems
>>
>>
>>> OOO, that sounds like f u n!
>>>
>>> On Feb 22, 2012, at 12:53 PM, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home wrote:
>>>
>>>> Oh, and be careful, not about the dog, but about yourself. Do not leave
>>>> them laying around the house. I have stepped on one before and it almost
>>>> rolled out from under my foot and landed me on the floor.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:08 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> A goughnut is a rubber toy--stick, ring, or ball--in a few sizes. You
>>>>> can get them from doughnuts.com, which may not be quite right, and they
>>>>> may be purchased other places, but that's where they seem to originate.
>>>>> They have a red/green indicator, red being stop, green being go. If it
>>>>> is freen, the thing is in good shape; if it turns red, you want to not
>>>>> let the dog have it anymore because the toy has been compromised. They
>>>>> have a lifetime guarantee. I bought a couple of the sticks.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 22, 2012, at 11:49 AM, loriandleo wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Nicole,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What is a goughnut? Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lori and the Gipper
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>
>> Message: 20
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 13:16:35 -0600
>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> To: the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: [nagdu] goughnut
>> Message-ID: <3860757C-7FC7-487D-967C-9EFC881B9730 at gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>> The place I ordered these things is
>> dogsgonuts.com.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 21
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:25:19 -0500
>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] meeting the puppy raisers
>> Message-ID: <4aec367e29d6f13b790097d188aad79c.squirrel at mail.panix.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
>>
>> I switched from GDB to TSE, so I've had both experiences. Meeting my
>> puppy raisers was OK. Some I kept in touch with a bit, on a Christmas
>> card level, and others not. It was nice to ask them about my dog as a
>> pup, but not a big thing. It was also nice to know, if for somereason I or
>> my family couldn't keep the dog after retirement, that there were people
>> who knew the dog, and whom I knew, who might take him and give him a good
>> home.
>>
>> My TSE raisers did put in Ben's puppy profile that he likes stuffed
>> squeaky toys, which I would never have thought of. I'd be happy to meet
>> them. I wrote to them, but they did not reply, which is fine, too.
>>
>> I really don't miss the graduation hoopla at all. I could happily live
>> the rest of my life without going through that circus again.
>> On the other hand, I think it's rather patronizing for TSE to censor what
>> I choose to write to my puppy raiser, if I choose to write at all.
>>
>> Tracy
>>
>>> At GDB, we also got to meet the puppy raisers on graduation day. My dog's
>>> raiser family is wonderful, and we keep in regular contact. I don't
>>> recall
>>> asking them about toys and such, but with my dog it's pretty obvious what
>>> she likes, I.E. everything. :)
>>>
>>> Meeting the raiser families can vary though..last time was great, the
>>> time
>>> before not so much. Over all, while I am personally not much interested
>>> in
>>> a
>>> public graduation blitz, I enjoy meeting my dog's raisers, and would do
>>> it
>>> again if I got another program dog.
>>>
>>> Shanna
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Lea williams
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 12:04 PM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: [nagdu] meating the puppy raisers
>>>
>>> Hey i am not sure how this works with all the schools, but when do you
>>> normally get to meet the puppy raisers?
>>>
>>> I know how the school I am going to does it. I am going to guiding
>>> eyes and we do on graduation day.
>>>
>>> After reading a few emails on here I got to wonder why people can't
>>> asked the puppy raisers what kind of toys and things that their dog
>>> might like rather than having to try to figure it out completely
>>> themselves?
>>> I asked one about it and was told that Pilot won't let you meet the
>>> raisers until after six months.
>>>
>>> How do you feel about how your school does this? Do you mind or not?
>>> Would you rather it different?
>>> What were some benifits to meeting your puppy raisers? What kinds of
>>> things did you learn about your dog when you did?
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 22
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 13:31:40 -0600
>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] meeting the puppy raisers
>> Message-ID: <54EA01DF-4C1F-4548-B168-8C64FDBBC47A at gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>> I think it is a little patronizing that TSE determines what I can say to
>> the
>> raisers or, for that matter, whether I can know who they are as well.
>> However, for me there are bigger battles currently, and it's not currently
>> a
>> deal breaker for me. I do wish they would revisit their policy on it
>> though,
>> and they are aware that many people wish that.
>> Cindy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 23
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 13:32:16 -0600
>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems
>> Message-ID: <A7CF5602-F385-4792-9512-7118B458D25D at gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>> Solution for that: keep the beast on tie down and the toys far, far away.
>> LOL.
>>
>> Cindy
>>
>> On Feb 22, 2012, at 1:19 PM, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
>>
>>> Wigh me its squeaky toys at about 3 A.M. You know those that squeak
>>> loudly and stay slimy! Wakes you right up!
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 2:08 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems
>>>
>>>
>>>> OOO, that sounds like f u n!
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 22, 2012, at 12:53 PM, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Oh, and be careful, not about the dog, but about yourself. Do not leave
>>>>> them laying around the house. I have stepped on one before and it
>>>>> almost
>>>>> rolled out from under my foot and landed me on the floor.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:08 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> A goughnut is a rubber toy--stick, ring, or ball--in a few sizes. You
>>>>>> can get them from doughnuts.com, which may not be quite right, and
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> may be purchased other places, but that's where they seem to
>>>>>> originate.
>>>>>> They have a red/green indicator, red being stop, green being go. If it
>>>>>> is freen, the thing is in good shape; if it turns red, you want to not
>>>>>> let the dog have it anymore because the toy has been compromised. They
>>>>>> have a lifetime guarantee. I bought a couple of the sticks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 22, 2012, at 11:49 AM, loriandleo wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Nicole,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What is a goughnut? Thanks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lori and the Gipper
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>> Message: 24
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:38:36 -0800
>> From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems
>> Message-ID: <6657C8A1D0FB429BBBCC76B32B188836 at stanford.edu>
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>>
>> Or just don't have squeaky toys *grin*. I am one of those people who errs
>> on
>> the side of caution and does not allow squeaky toys, balls, or stuffed
>> animals. There was one exception. One time last summer, one of the
>> employees
>> at Yahoo! brought a go ball to work (it was in the Accessibility Lab) and
>> Lexia was fascinated by it.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:32 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems
>>
>>
>>> Solution for that: keep the beast on tie down and the toys far, far away.
>>> LOL.
>>>
>>> Cindy
>>>
>>> On Feb 22, 2012, at 1:19 PM, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
>>>
>>>> Wigh me its squeaky toys at about 3 A.M. You know those that squeak
>>>> loudly and stay slimy! Wakes you right up!
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 2:08 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> OOO, that sounds like f u n!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 22, 2012, at 12:53 PM, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh, and be careful, not about the dog, but about yourself. Do not
>>>>>> leave
>>>>>>
>>>>>> them laying around the house. I have stepped on one before and it
>>>>>> almost rolled out from under my foot and landed me on the floor.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:08 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A goughnut is a rubber toy--stick, ring, or ball--in a few sizes. You
>>>>>>> can get them from doughnuts.com, which may not be quite right, and
>>>>>>> they may be purchased other places, but that's where they seem to
>>>>>>> originate. They have a red/green indicator, red being stop, green
>>>>>>> being go. If it is freen, the thing is in good shape; if it turns
>>>>>>> red,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> you want to not let the dog have it anymore because the toy has been
>>>>>>> compromised. They have a lifetime guarantee. I bought a couple of the
>>>>>>> sticks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 22, 2012, at 11:49 AM, loriandleo wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Nicole,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What is a goughnut? Thanks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Lori and the Gipper
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 25
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:09:48 -0500
>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems
>> Message-ID: <d190cd7ec6aea23f7a1b0cb04a80fcf4.squirrel at mail.panix.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
>>
>> I used to feel like that. All the dogs I'd ever known just totally
>> destroyed stuffed squeakies. But, when Ben's raisers said it was his
>> favorite, I got him one, with no bits sticking out to tear off, and
>> sturdily made, and he loved it! And he didn't destroy it! We still have
>> it, 5 years later.
>> It may be a problem, when Ben retires and New Dog comes along, but I'll
>> worry about that when it happens.
>> I'm glad his raiser wrote it in his profile, and I gave it a try, because
>> Ben gets a big kick out of his squeaky toys.
>> Sometimes it pays to try something new, with careful supervision, as with
>> any new toy.
>> Tracy
>>
>>> Or just don't have squeaky toys *grin*. I am one of those people who errs
>>> on
>>> the side of caution and does not allow squeaky toys, balls, or stuffed
>>> animals. There was one exception. One time last summer, one of the
>>> employees
>>> at Yahoo! brought a go ball to work (it was in the Accessibility Lab) and
>>> Lexia was fascinated by it.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:32 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems
>>>
>>>
>>>> Solution for that: keep the beast on tie down and the toys far, far
>>>> away.
>>>> LOL.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 22, 2012, at 1:19 PM, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Wigh me its squeaky toys at about 3 A.M. You know those that squeak
>>>>> loudly and stay slimy! Wakes you right up!
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 2:08 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> OOO, that sounds like f u n!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 22, 2012, at 12:53 PM, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh, and be careful, not about the dog, but about yourself. Do not
>>>>>>> leave
>>>>>>> them laying around the house. I have stepped on one before and it
>>>>>>> almost rolled out from under my foot and landed me on the floor.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:08 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A goughnut is a rubber toy--stick, ring, or ball--in a few sizes.
>>>>>>>> You
>>>>>>>> can get them from doughnuts.com, which may not be quite right, and
>>>>>>>> they may be purchased other places, but that's where they seem to
>>>>>>>> originate. They have a red/green indicator, red being stop, green
>>>>>>>> being go. If it is freen, the thing is in good shape; if it turns
>>>>>>>> red,
>>>>>>>> you want to not let the dog have it anymore because the toy has been
>>>>>>>> compromised. They have a lifetime guarantee. I bought a couple of
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> sticks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Feb 22, 2012, at 11:49 AM, loriandleo wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Nicole,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What is a goughnut? Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Lori and the Gipper
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 26
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:11:38 -0500
>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Canine flu vaccine
>> Message-ID: <d584171304d7a48b55d026b93a79fbee.squirrel at mail.panix.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
>>
>> Thanks Deanna. That makes sense, especially if you volunteer at the
>> animal shelter.
>> Tracy
>>
>>
>>> Hi Tracy,
>>> When I took Mr. Pascal to the vet in December, I got him the Canine Flu
>>> vaccine. I thought it would be beneficial as he is in contact with other
>>> dogs at NFB meetings, and conventions. And also, since we occasionally
>>> volunteer for the SPCA. Take care.
>>> Deanna and Pascal
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ben had his annual checkup yesterday. He's strong and healthy, which
>>>> confirmed my opinion.
>>>> The vet offered to give him a canine flu vaccine, which I declined. The
>>>> vet said dogs are most at risk when they congregate with large groups of
>>>> dogs, like in dog parks, the groomer's, or a kennel (or the dog track).
>>>> Ben doesn't go any of those places, and I want to keep the shots he gets
>>>> down to a minimum.
>>>> I wondered if others had gotten the vaccine for their dogs. I might
>>>> have,
>>>> if Ben went to the groomer.
>>>>
>>>> I did get him the lepto vaccine, which is kind of a pain, since he has
>>>> to
>>>> go in for a booster in 3 weeks. But the chances of him coming into
>>>> contact with squirrel urine seem pretty good. At least, there are lots
>>>> of
>>>> squirrels around here, and Ben's a curious guy. I had assumed that it
>>>> was
>>>> bundled with the distemper shot, DHLP, but this new vet likes it
>>>> separate.
>>>> Tracy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 27
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 17:24:58 -0500
>> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems
>> Message-ID: <61E5BBB5A1274BCD9224E09B30C20362 at Babylon5>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=original
>>
>> which would be worse, stepping on a well used nyla-bone or a rolley thing
>> i don't know about the rolley things, Lynard dosn't have any, but i really
>> know alot about well chewed nyla-bones ouch
>> If Life Hands You A Lemon, Make Lemonaid
>> William And LD Lynard
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 28
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 17:25:59 -0500
>> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems
>> Message-ID: <043970E5F2704821A333BCADBDC153D4 at Babylon5>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=response
>>
>> usually wakes the dog up too lol
>> If Life Hands You A Lemon, Make Lemonaid
>> William And LD Lynard
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 29
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 17:53:47 -0500
>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems
>> Message-ID: <77D210CAD80145D48E9CD300928574EE at yourec0540d030>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=response
>>
>> Oh, I don't mind them! Its the nyla bones, deer antlers and occasional
>> uneaten greenies that really make me jump! Those nyla bones can really
>> get
>> scratchy!
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 2:38 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems
>>
>>
>>> Or just don't have squeaky toys *grin*. I am one of those people who errs
>>> on the side of caution and does not allow squeaky toys, balls, or stuffed
>>> animals. There was one exception. One time last summer, one of the
>>> employees at Yahoo! brought a go ball to work (it was in the
>>> Accessibility
>>>
>>> Lab) and Lexia was fascinated by it.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:32 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems
>>>
>>>
>>>> Solution for that: keep the beast on tie down and the toys far, far
>>>> away.
>>>>
>>>> LOL.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 22, 2012, at 1:19 PM, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Wigh me its squeaky toys at about 3 A.M. You know those that squeak
>>>>> loudly and stay slimy! Wakes you right up!
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 2:08 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> OOO, that sounds like f u n!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 22, 2012, at 12:53 PM, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh, and be careful, not about the dog, but about yourself. Do not
>>>>>>> leave them laying around the house. I have stepped on one before and
>>>>>>> it almost rolled out from under my foot and landed me on the floor.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:08 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A goughnut is a rubber toy--stick, ring, or ball--in a few sizes.
>>>>>>>> You
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> can get them from doughnuts.com, which may not be quite right, and
>>>>>>>> they may be purchased other places, but that's where they seem to
>>>>>>>> originate. They have a red/green indicator, red being stop, green
>>>>>>>> being go. If it is freen, the thing is in good shape; if it turns
>>>>>>>> red, you want to not let the dog have it anymore because the toy has
>>>>>>>> been compromised. They have a lifetime guarantee. I bought a couple
>>>>>>>> of the sticks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Feb 22, 2012, at 11:49 AM, loriandleo wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Nicole,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What is a goughnut? Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Lori and the Gipper
>>>>>>>>>
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>> ------------------------------
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>> Message: 30
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:02:52 -0500
>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems
>> Message-ID: <7026120C9508452A991B4052A5032798 at yourec0540d030>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=response
>>
>> I walk carefuly in iether case. If its a rolly thing, I usually kick it
>> before stepping on it. If its a nyla bone, I say ouch and then kick it.
>> If
>> its a squeaky thing I usually jump up and land on it again! This usually
>> causes Carol to bust out laughing! I'm sure both dogs know this because
>> they place the squeadies in strategic places such as the entrance to the
>> bathroom or laundry room.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 5:24 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems
>>
>>
>>> which would be worse, stepping on a well used nyla-bone or a rolley thing
>>> i don't know about the rolley things, Lynard dosn't have any, but i
>>> really
>>>
>>> know alot about well chewed nyla-bones ouch
>>> If Life Hands You A Lemon, Make Lemonaid
>>> William And LD Lynard
>>>
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>>
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>> Message: 31
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:04:16 -0500
>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems
>> Message-ID: <9C9762BC227546CC9364B60F22D943CB at yourec0540d030>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=response
>>
>> Your dog loves to boobby trap your place though! I'm glad he doesn't talk
>> to Holly! No ideas from Lynard please!
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 5:25 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems
>>
>>
>>> usually wakes the dog up too lol
>>> If Life Hands You A Lemon, Make Lemonaid
>>> William And LD Lynard
>>>
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>>
>> Message: 32
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 19:11:53 -0500
>> From: Lea williams <leanicole1988 at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: [nagdu] guide dog cargo while on the go.
>> Message-ID:
>> <CAD0KW=atvaROs8ebzbwd4uMaaWKdqtiOQcFZ-=qU9K48-GAtdQ at mail.gmail.com>
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>>
>> Hey everyone
>>
>> I wanted to know if you and if so, how you carried the things you use
>> for your dog? From my understanding which is all hear say until I do
>> get my dog, aren't you suppose to carry things like bandaids etc...
>> for your dog just in case something happens while out and about? If so
>> what do you carry it in? Also what do you carry on you? I know I will
>> learn all about this in class but, a second oppinion is just fine too.
>> lol Thanks for your replies in advance.
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 33
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 17:34:40 -0700
>> From: "Natalie" <nrorrell at qwest.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fw: Article: From the Boston Globe
>> Message-ID: <730D9BAD662C4D89A208B57365C0B412 at sansb0623c4f07>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=original
>>
>> This is right on. It creates a better connection between all communities
>> that may not otherwise exist.
>> Best,
>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>> To: "NAGDU" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 9:59 AM
>> Subject: [nagdu] Fw: Article: From the Boston Globe
>>
>>
>>> At Perkins, applause for stamps honoring service dogs
>>> By Cindy Cantrell bar Globe Correspondent
>>> February 09, 2012
>>> Suzanne Kreiterst Globe Staff
>>>
>>> Anne DeFeo, 73, with "the love of my life," her guide dog, Viv. "She's
>>> the love of my life, and she loves me. We're joined at the hip," DeFeo
>>> said of her 4 1/2-year-old yellow Labrador
>>> retriever, Viv.
>>> On Valentine's Day, DeFeo and Viv will participate with other guide dogs
>>> and their owners in a ceremony at Perkins honoring the US Postal Service
>>> for its new 65-cent "Dogs at Work" series of stamps. The series depicts
>>> a
>>>
>>> guide dog, therapy dog, military tracking dog, and search-and-rescue dog,
>>> and celebrates the "enduring partnership between dogs and people."
>>> Designed by Postal Service art director Howard E.
>>> Paine, the four stamps feature original paintings by John M. Thompson,
>>> an illustration professor at Syracuse University.
>>> Television newscaster Randy Price will emcee the 1:30 p.m. ceremony
>>> Tuesday in the historic Howe Building on the Perkins campus, 175 North
>>> Beacon St.
>>> The event will include speakers on the importance of guide and service
>>> dogs in their lives, and a presentation by Perkins Elder Book Club
>>> members
>>>
>>> on "Thunder Dog," a true story recounted by Michael Hingson about a guide
>>> dog's heroics on Sept. 11, 2001.
>>> There will be gift bags of dog biscuits made by Perkins students, and
>>> the
>>>
>>> presentation of a plaque to Boston's postmaster, James Holland, in honor
>>> of the Postal Service's longtime commitment to the blind and visually
>>> impaired.
>>> DeFeo will be there as a person with first-hand knowledge of the bond
>>> between guide dogs and their owners.
>>> "She's meant a whole new life of independence for me," said DeFeo,
>>> describing the confidence she feels from Vivbs presence, guiding her
>>> almost imperceptibly.
>>> "I'm a people person, and now I'm never alone. My pal is always right
>>> by
>>>
>>> my side. She's just the best."
>>> Watertown resident Kim Charlson, director of the Braille and Talking
>>> Book
>>>
>>> Library at Perkins, coordinated the event after learning about the
>>> stamps.
>>>
>>> Through the Postal Service's free delivery of reading material and sound
>>> recordings for the blind, the library serves 25,000 people across
>>> Massachusetts who cannot read ordinary printed material due to visual
>>> impairment, reading disability, or physical disability.
>>> "We wouldn't be able to do what we do without the post office," said
>>> Charlson, who will attend the event with her 3 1/2-year-old guide dog,
>>> Dolly, a 44-pound German shepherd who accompanies her to conferences
>>> nationwide.
>>> Charlson said she estimates that there are 100,000 residents who would
>>> qualify to use the library's free services and materials such as large
>>> print, Braille, and digital audio books and magazines, but aren't aware
>>> of
>>>
>>> its existence.
>>> "Events like this help get the word outbb that the library is here and
>>> we
>>>
>>> can help," she added. "So many borrowers say they don't know what they'd
>>> do without access to books and reading. It makes such a difference to
>>> their quality of life."
>>> Canton resident Dave Lynn, the Blinded Veterans Association
>>> representative to the Braille and Talking Book Library, will be
>>> accompanied Tuesday by his 6-year-old guide dog, Blazer, a red Doberman
>>> pinscher.
>>> Lynn, whose degenerative retinitis pigmentosa forced him to medically
>>> retire from his 14-year Air Force career in 2003, will share the steps
>>> involved in being matched in need and personality with a service animal,
>>> and how Blazer has improved his life. While he previously used a white
>>> cane to navigate public transportation, Lynn said, Blazer helps him find
>>> doors, escalators, and elevators more quickly.
>>> At times, however, Blazer has become too smart for his own good, Lynn
>>> said. He emphasizes the importance of dog handling and directional
>>> skills, particularly when long-practiced routes suddenly change -- such
>>> as
>>>
>>> when he gets a new class schedule at the University of Massachusetts
>>> Boston, where he is majoring in history.
>>> "Blazer gives me the ability to navigate the world much more
>>> efficiently," said Lynn, who describes the 94-pound canine as a
>>> "terrific"
>>>
>>> guide dog, but also "the biggest goof on the planet" who resumes his
>>> fun-loving, attention-seeking ways the second that his harness is
>>> removed.
>>> In addition to posting a sign on the harness alerting strangers that
>>> Blazer is working, Lynn said, he looks for opportunities to educate the
>>> public that guide dogs are service animals, not pets. As such, he is
>>> serious about his responsibility of properly controlling his dog in
>>> public
>>>
>>> places. In return, he wishes people would ask before petting Blazer -- a
>>> distraction that can be compared to pulling on a driver's steering wheel.
>>> "I understand people like dogs, but it's so nice when I walk into a
>>> place
>>>
>>> and they don't acknowledge the dog is there," he said. "They treat me
>>> like everybody else, which is what should happen."
>>> Brighton resident Carl Richardson, president of Guide Dog Users of
>>> Massachusetts, will speak about "these amazing dogs who dedicate their
>>> entire lives to uea"b and the assistance they provide for a wide range of
>>> disabilities: safely navigating around obstacles, retrieving items,
>>> helping with balance, alerting people to everything from a ringing
>>> doorbell to an oncoming seizure.
>>> Richardson, who is visually impaired and hard of hearing, emphasizes
>>> that
>>>
>>> the use of a service dog versus a white cane is strictly a personal
>>> choice. And while he agrees that people should ask permission before
>>> approaching guide dogs, he credits his first guide dog, Kiva, with
>>> helping
>>>
>>> to court his wife, Megan Sullivan, a Boston University associate
>>> professor.
>>> Richardson credits his current guide dog, Kinley, a 7
>>> 1/2-year-old black Lab, with reducing his reliance on his wife, and
>>> providing an extra set of eyes and ears throughout his daily commute on
>>> the bus and subway.
>>> "She doesn't have to worry about me because that's Kinleybs job," said
>>> Richardson, who is the Americans with Disabilities Act coordinator at the
>>> State House.
>>> Richardson said he is fortunate to still have Kiva, a
>>> 14-year-old yellow Lab whom he retired as his service dog due to her
>>> arthritis at age 9. Because 70 percent of the blind community are
>>> unemployed, he said, many guide-dog owners can't afford to care for
>>> multiple animals.
>>> "I'm so glad the US Postal Service is honoring these magnificent dogs,
>>> because I can't imagine my life without one," he added. "I also hope the
>>> stamps bring more recognition and awareness so when we bring our dogs
>>> into
>>>
>>> public places, people know it's not a big deal."
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>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 34
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 19:42:55 -0500
>> From: "Marsha Drenth" <marsha.drenth at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog cargo while on the go.
>> Message-ID: <697275315EC045A1B28342BB05EB71EC at Cptr233>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Lets see I always have on my person, bags for picking up, paper towels,
>> and
>> hand sanitizer. That is about it. Ok, well I do have a small first aid
>> kit,
>> but its not for the pup, but for me. As I am the one more likely to have
>> an
>> injury LOL
>>
>> Marsha
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Lea williams
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 7:12 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: [nagdu] guide dog cargo while on the go.
>>
>> Hey everyone
>>
>> I wanted to know if you and if so, how you carried the things you use
>> for your dog? From my understanding which is all hear say until I do
>> get my dog, aren't you suppose to carry things like bandaids etc...
>> for your dog just in case something happens while out and about? If so
>> what do you carry it in? Also what do you carry on you? I know I will
>> learn all about this in class but, a second oppinion is just fine too.
>> lol Thanks for your replies in advance.
>>
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>>
>> Message: 35
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 19:52:41 -0500
>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog cargo while on the go.
>> Message-ID: <A8DFBBDE5DC5408A8C261EA4BD21D7BA at yourec0540d030>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=original
>>
>> I carry a towel, poop bags and a collapsible water dish. Oh, I forgot, a
>> tie down. They all reside in my backpack. If I travel and stay
>> somewhere,
>> then I include food and other supplies such as treats.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Lea williams" <leanicole1988 at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 7:11 PM
>> Subject: [nagdu] guide dog cargo while on the go.
>>
>>
>>> Hey everyone
>>>
>>> I wanted to know if you and if so, how you carried the things you use
>>> for your dog? From my understanding which is all hear say until I do
>>> get my dog, aren't you suppose to carry things like bandaids etc...
>>> for your dog just in case something happens while out and about? If so
>>> what do you carry it in? Also what do you carry on you? I know I will
>>> learn all about this in class but, a second oppinion is just fine too.
>>> lol Thanks for your replies in advance.
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 36
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:09:45 -0700
>> From: Sheila Leigland <sleigland at bresnan.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>> Message-ID: <auto-000032864070 at fe-2.cluster1.bresnan.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> Hi, my black lab drake who was my first guide dog use to snap at flies and
>> eat them if he could catch them. One evening we were in our front yard and
>> he cleared the yard of mosquitos.
>>
>> Sheila Leigland
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 37
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:14:47 -0700
>> From: "Criminal Justice Major" <orleans24 at comcast.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>> Message-ID: <A135589ACBA745D0B8D7E37D46E3641F at bibi>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=original
>>
>> I've tried regular nyla bones with Odie and forget it.
>> He shows no interest in them.
>> One time, I made the mistake of giving him a soft flexible nyla bone which
>> he destroyed that less than ten days and unfortunately, he accidentally
>> swallowed a few pieces of it.
>> Thankfully when he threw up, the pieces came back up with the vomit.
>> Only bones he really enjoys are organtic ones which I buy from Dog Savvy,
>> a
>> bone with peanutbutter, sweet potatoe or Youghurt filling on the inside.
>> He prefers the edible nyla bones over the regular ones and despite that he
>> ends up eating it all, it doesn't impact him nor has he gotten sick from
>> them either.
>> I don't buy the flavored edible nyla bones continuously as they are
>> expensive.
>> He likes the turkey and rice, chicken and rice along with the peanubutter
>> flavor.
>> Next time, I'll have to see if he'll enjoy the ham and cheese one.
>> The organtic bones from Dog savvy run approximately from $5.00 up to
>> $15.00,
>> depending on the size and what you plan to purchase.
>> The organtic bones have bicen filling on the inside that is good for dogs
>> who may have a sensitive stomach which Odie does.
>> Bibi
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 38
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 20:43:14 -0500
>> From: Lea williams <leanicole1988 at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog cargo while on the go.
>> Message-ID:
>> <CAD0KW=YHzqQ0LhKxkxpaLSvy0J7iMO7qQJpOD0geujx3QvqeEQ at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>
>> thanks, i am not sure wear I heard all this from but I do remember
>> hearing it and remember my thoughts for it.
>>
>> On 2/22/12, Larry D. Keeler <lkeeler at comcast.net> wrote:
>>> I carry a towel, poop bags and a collapsible water dish. Oh, I forgot, a
>>> tie down. They all reside in my backpack. If I travel and stay
>>> somewhere,
>>> then I include food and other supplies such as treats.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Lea williams" <leanicole1988 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 7:11 PM
>>> Subject: [nagdu] guide dog cargo while on the go.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hey everyone
>>>>
>>>> I wanted to know if you and if so, how you carried the things you use
>>>> for your dog? From my understanding which is all hear say until I do
>>>> get my dog, aren't you suppose to carry things like bandaids etc...
>>>> for your dog just in case something happens while out and about? If so
>>>> what do you carry it in? Also what do you carry on you? I know I will
>>>> learn all about this in class but, a second oppinion is just fine too.
>>>> lol Thanks for your replies in advance.
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
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>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
>> Message: 39
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 21:02:06 -0500
>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fw: Article: From the Boston Globe
>> Message-ID: <4794A7E53100495AB82B7FFB6831E615 at cadiganpc>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=response
>>
>> I was there. The news article makes it sound far more interesting than it
>> was.
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Natalie" <nrorrell at qwest.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 7:34 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fw: Article: From the Boston Globe
>>
>>
>>> This is right on. It creates a better connection between all communities
>>> that may not otherwise exist.
>>> Best,
>>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 9:59 AM
>>> Subject: [nagdu] Fw: Article: From the Boston Globe
>>>
>>>
>>>> At Perkins, applause for stamps honoring service dogs
>>>> By Cindy Cantrell bar Globe Correspondent
>>>> February 09, 2012
>>>> Suzanne Kreiterst Globe Staff
>>>>
>>>> Anne DeFeo, 73, with "the love of my life," her guide dog, Viv. "She's
>>>> the love of my life, and she loves me. We're joined at the hip," DeFeo
>>>> said of her 4 1/2-year-old yellow Labrador
>>>> retriever, Viv.
>>>> On Valentine's Day, DeFeo and Viv will participate with other guide
>>>> dogs
>>>>
>>>> and their owners in a ceremony at Perkins honoring the US Postal Service
>>>> for its new 65-cent "Dogs at Work" series of stamps. The series depicts
>>>> a guide dog, therapy dog, military tracking dog, and search-and-rescue
>>>> dog, and celebrates the "enduring partnership between dogs and people."
>>>> Designed by Postal Service art director Howard E.
>>>> Paine, the four stamps feature original paintings by John M. Thompson,
>>>> an illustration professor at Syracuse University.
>>>> Television newscaster Randy Price will emcee the 1:30 p.m. ceremony
>>>> Tuesday in the historic Howe Building on the Perkins campus, 175 North
>>>> Beacon St.
>>>> The event will include speakers on the importance of guide and service
>>>> dogs in their lives, and a presentation by Perkins Elder Book Club
>>>> members on "Thunder Dog," a true story recounted by Michael Hingson
>>>> about
>>>>
>>>> a guide dog's heroics on Sept. 11, 2001.
>>>> There will be gift bags of dog biscuits made by Perkins students, and
>>>> the presentation of a plaque to Boston's postmaster, James Holland, in
>>>> honor of the Postal Service's longtime commitment to the blind and
>>>> visually impaired.
>>>> DeFeo will be there as a person with first-hand knowledge of the bond
>>>> between guide dogs and their owners.
>>>> "She's meant a whole new life of independence for me," said DeFeo,
>>>> describing the confidence she feels from Vivbs presence, guiding her
>>>> almost imperceptibly.
>>>> "I'm a people person, and now I'm never alone. My pal is always right
>>>> by my side. She's just the best."
>>>> Watertown resident Kim Charlson, director of the Braille and Talking
>>>> Book Library at Perkins, coordinated the event after learning about the
>>>> stamps. Through the Postal Service's free delivery of reading material
>>>> and sound recordings for the blind, the library serves 25,000 people
>>>> across Massachusetts who cannot read ordinary printed material due to
>>>> visual impairment, reading disability, or physical disability.
>>>> "We wouldn't be able to do what we do without the post office," said
>>>> Charlson, who will attend the event with her 3 1/2-year-old guide dog,
>>>> Dolly, a 44-pound German shepherd who accompanies her to conferences
>>>> nationwide.
>>>> Charlson said she estimates that there are 100,000 residents who would
>>>> qualify to use the library's free services and materials such as large
>>>> print, Braille, and digital audio books and magazines, but aren't aware
>>>> of its existence.
>>>> "Events like this help get the word outbb that the library is here and
>>>> we can help," she added. "So many borrowers say they don't know what
>>>> they'd do without access to books and reading. It makes such a
>>>> difference
>>>>
>>>> to their quality of life."
>>>> Canton resident Dave Lynn, the Blinded Veterans Association
>>>> representative to the Braille and Talking Book Library, will be
>>>> accompanied Tuesday by his 6-year-old guide dog, Blazer, a red Doberman
>>>> pinscher.
>>>> Lynn, whose degenerative retinitis pigmentosa forced him to medically
>>>> retire from his 14-year Air Force career in 2003, will share the steps
>>>> involved in being matched in need and personality with a service animal,
>>>> and how Blazer has improved his life. While he previously used a white
>>>> cane to navigate public transportation, Lynn said, Blazer helps him find
>>>> doors, escalators, and elevators more quickly.
>>>> At times, however, Blazer has become too smart for his own good, Lynn
>>>> said. He emphasizes the importance of dog handling and directional
>>>> skills, particularly when long-practiced routes suddenly change -- such
>>>> as when he gets a new class schedule at the University of Massachusetts
>>>> Boston, where he is majoring in history.
>>>> "Blazer gives me the ability to navigate the world much more
>>>> efficiently," said Lynn, who describes the 94-pound canine as a
>>>> "terrific" guide dog, but also "the biggest goof on the planet" who
>>>> resumes his fun-loving, attention-seeking ways the second that his
>>>> harness is removed.
>>>> In addition to posting a sign on the harness alerting strangers that
>>>> Blazer is working, Lynn said, he looks for opportunities to educate the
>>>> public that guide dogs are service animals, not pets. As such, he is
>>>> serious about his responsibility of properly controlling his dog in
>>>> public places. In return, he wishes people would ask before petting
>>>> Blazer -- a distraction that can be compared to pulling on a driver's
>>>> steering wheel.
>>>> "I understand people like dogs, but it's so nice when I walk into a
>>>> place and they don't acknowledge the dog is there," he said. "They
>>>> treat
>>>>
>>>> me like everybody else, which is what should happen."
>>>> Brighton resident Carl Richardson, president of Guide Dog Users of
>>>> Massachusetts, will speak about "these amazing dogs who dedicate their
>>>> entire lives to uea"b and the assistance they provide for a wide range
>>>> of
>>>>
>>>> disabilities: safely navigating around obstacles, retrieving items,
>>>> helping with balance, alerting people to everything from a ringing
>>>> doorbell to an oncoming seizure.
>>>> Richardson, who is visually impaired and hard of hearing, emphasizes
>>>> that the use of a service dog versus a white cane is strictly a personal
>>>> choice. And while he agrees that people should ask permission before
>>>> approaching guide dogs, he credits his first guide dog, Kiva, with
>>>> helping to court his wife, Megan Sullivan, a Boston University associate
>>>> professor.
>>>> Richardson credits his current guide dog, Kinley, a 7
>>>> 1/2-year-old black Lab, with reducing his reliance on his wife, and
>>>> providing an extra set of eyes and ears throughout his daily commute on
>>>> the bus and subway.
>>>> "She doesn't have to worry about me because that's Kinleybs job," said
>>>> Richardson, who is the Americans with Disabilities Act coordinator at
>>>> the
>>>>
>>>> State House.
>>>> Richardson said he is fortunate to still have Kiva, a
>>>> 14-year-old yellow Lab whom he retired as his service dog due to her
>>>> arthritis at age 9. Because 70 percent of the blind community are
>>>> unemployed, he said, many guide-dog owners can't afford to care for
>>>> multiple animals.
>>>> "I'm so glad the US Postal Service is honoring these magnificent dogs,
>>>> because I can't imagine my life without one," he added. "I also hope
>>>> the
>>>>
>>>> stamps bring more recognition and awareness so when we bring our dogs
>>>> into public places, people know it's not a big deal."
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>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 40
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:44:15 -0700
>> From: Sheila Leigland <sleigland at bresnan.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] meating the puppy raisers
>> Message-ID: <auto-000032869630 at fe-2.cluster1.bresnan.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> Pilot use to allow the raisers to know where the dog was but had some
>> problems with raisers wanting to reclaim the dogs and even trying to not
>> return the dogs for training so we can find out the background of the dog
>> after six months and we have to do that in writing.
>>
>> Sheila Leigland
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 41
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:53:16 -0800
>> From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog cargo while on the go.
>> Message-ID: <C23BD4F020924D4894B67678BC945110 at stanford.edu>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=original
>>
>> I've never heard of carrying bandaids for your dog. What I carry depends
>> on
>> where I am going and for how long. Lexia always has a leash luggage bag on
>> her leash which contains plastic bags, a fold up water dish (unfortunately
>> no longer sold by GDB), her card, her clicker, a bottle of hand sanitizer,
>> and a whistle. She also has a very small pouch on her harness sign. I
>> often
>> put regular plastic bags in there to use as disposable bowls. If I am
>> going
>> to be gone over lunch hour and for a while after, I carry her cloth
>> collapsible bowl and her lunch; these are carried in whatever bag I am
>> carrying.
>>
>> Nicole and Lexia who eats lunch
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Lea williams" <leanicole1988 at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 4:11 PM
>> Subject: [nagdu] guide dog cargo while on the go.
>>
>>
>>> Hey everyone
>>>
>>> I wanted to know if you and if so, how you carried the things you use
>>> for your dog? From my understanding which is all hear say until I do
>>> get my dog, aren't you suppose to carry things like bandaids etc...
>>> for your dog just in case something happens while out and about? If so
>>> what do you carry it in? Also what do you carry on you? I know I will
>>> learn all about this in class but, a second oppinion is just fine too.
>>> lol Thanks for your replies in advance.
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 42
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:55:55 -0800
>> From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] meating the puppy raisers
>> Message-ID: <BD8D2C7C388E436E8A8C03C04B7AA6BF at stanford.edu>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=original
>>
>> Oh dear. I guess that GDB has not had any problems because we are still
>> allowed to meet and correspond with the puppy raisers. I lost contact with
>> Lexia's raiser, but I was able to contact her puppy sitter recently.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Sheila Leigland" <sleigland at bresnan.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 5:44 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] meating the puppy raisers
>>
>>
>>> Pilot use to allow the raisers to know where the dog was but had some
>>> problems with raisers wanting to reclaim the dogs and even trying to not
>>> return the dogs for training so we can find out the background of the dog
>>> after six months and we have to do that in writing.
>>>
>>> Sheila Leigland
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 43
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:58:44 -0800
>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] meating the puppy raisers
>> Message-ID: <00e801ccf1d7$0ecb2a00$2c617e00$@gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Sheila,
>> I think I heard them say we could also do it by calling
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Sheila Leigland
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 5:44 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] meating the puppy raisers
>>
>> Pilot use to allow the raisers to know where the dog was but had some
>> problems with raisers wanting to reclaim the dogs and even trying to not
>> return the dogs for training so we can find out the background of the dog
>> after six months and we have to do that in writing.
>>
>> Sheila Leigland
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 44
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 22:10:45 -0500
>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog cargo while on the go.
>> Message-ID: <137825589EB74491A5240AD4B4E36E38 at yourec0540d030>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=original
>>
>> At least at Pilot, they didn't tell us we had to carry stuff. They did
>> however tell us to be fair to our dogs and to also be prepaired! Well,
>> that
>> made sense!
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Lea williams" <leanicole1988 at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 8:43 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog cargo while on the go.
>>
>>
>>> thanks, i am not sure wear I heard all this from but I do remember
>>> hearing it and remember my thoughts for it.
>>>
>>> On 2/22/12, Larry D. Keeler <lkeeler at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> I carry a towel, poop bags and a collapsible water dish. Oh, I forgot,
>>>> a
>>>> tie down. They all reside in my backpack. If I travel and stay
>>>> somewhere,
>>>> then I include food and other supplies such as treats.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Lea williams" <leanicole1988 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 7:11 PM
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] guide dog cargo while on the go.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hey everyone
>>>>>
>>>>> I wanted to know if you and if so, how you carried the things you use
>>>>> for your dog? From my understanding which is all hear say until I do
>>>>> get my dog, aren't you suppose to carry things like bandaids etc...
>>>>> for your dog just in case something happens while out and about? If so
>>>>> what do you carry it in? Also what do you carry on you? I know I will
>>>>> learn all about this in class but, a second oppinion is just fine too.
>>>>> lol Thanks for your replies in advance.
>>>>>
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>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 45
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 22:14:34 -0500
>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog cargo while on the go.
>> Message-ID: <9C5B5C5FF74F4C2B8AFD154EFEDBC9E5 at yourec0540d030>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=response
>>
>> I've never heard of carrying bandaids iether. But, if needed there are
>> probably some in my backpack. That thing is like Mr. Peabody's closet!!
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 9:53 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog cargo while on the go.
>>
>>
>>> I've never heard of carrying bandaids for your dog. What I carry depends
>>> on where I am going and for how long. Lexia always has a leash luggage
>>> bag
>>>
>>> on her leash which contains plastic bags, a fold up water dish
>>> (unfortunately no longer sold by GDB), her card, her clicker, a bottle of
>>> hand sanitizer, and a whistle. She also has a very small pouch on her
>>> harness sign. I often put regular plastic bags in there to use as
>>> disposable bowls. If I am going to be gone over lunch hour and for a
>>> while
>>>
>>> after, I carry her cloth collapsible bowl and her lunch; these are
>>> carried
>>>
>>> in whatever bag I am carrying.
>>>
>>> Nicole and Lexia who eats lunch
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Lea williams" <leanicole1988 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 4:11 PM
>>> Subject: [nagdu] guide dog cargo while on the go.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hey everyone
>>>>
>>>> I wanted to know if you and if so, how you carried the things you use
>>>> for your dog? From my understanding which is all hear say until I do
>>>> get my dog, aren't you suppose to carry things like bandaids etc...
>>>> for your dog just in case something happens while out and about? If so
>>>> what do you carry it in? Also what do you carry on you? I know I will
>>>> learn all about this in class but, a second oppinion is just fine too.
>>>> lol Thanks for your replies in advance.
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 46
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 19:31:12 -0800
>> From: Juanita Herrera <juanitaherrera1991 at gmail.com>
>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] New Guide Dog Usser
>> Message-ID:
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>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>
>> Hi Nat and Liam Joshua,
>> I actually purchased the sign from HandiWorks, but at the time of the
>> purchase I did not realize I left out the sleeve that holds the sign
>> in place. Later, I tried to go back to the website, and it says that
>> they no longer make the sleeves. So, I have a sign but no sleeve. Lol!
>> Thank you for your suggestion though.
>> Juanita And Anise
>>
>> On 2/22/12, nagdu-request at nfbnet.org <nagdu-request at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>>> 1. Re: Guide Dogs for the Mind (Nicole B. Torcolini at Home)
>>> 2. Re: Guide Dogs for the Mind (Sheila Leigland)
>>> 3. Re: Canine flu vaccine (Deanna Lewis)
>>> 4. Re: Guide Dogs for the Mind (Lea williams)
>>> 5. Re: Running (Natalie)
>>> 6. Re: New Guide Dog Usser (Natalie)
>>> 7. Re: Not eating (GARY STEEVES)
>>> 8. Re: update (John Vickers)
>>> 9. Re: nail trimming was Worlds best pet store + dog grooming =
>>> wicked amazing! (John Vickers)
>>> 10. Re: Guide Dogs for the Mind (Steven Johnson)
>>> 11. another update (Rachel Krieg)
>>> 12. Re: Not eating (rhonda cruz)
>>> 13. Re: another update (Hannah Chadwick)
>>> 14. Re: another update (rhonda cruz)
>>> 15. has this happened to anyone else? (Hannah Chadwick)
>>> 16. Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems (Nicole B. Torcolini at Home)
>>> 17. Re: has this happened to anyone else? (John Vickers)
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 11:23:32 -0800
>>> From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guide Dogs for the Mind
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>>>
>>> Interesting. I know that this is getting slightly off topic, but what do
>>> you
>>> do about the litter box? How much do the food dispensers cost, and where
>>> do
>>> you get them.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Meghan Whalen" <mewhalen at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 8:34 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guide Dogs for the Mind
>>>
>>>
>>>> They do make such devices already. I have one to feed my cat when I am
>>>> out of town for an extended period of time. You can select how much
>>>> food
>>>> you want it to dispense and how often. Pretty nifty little gadgets. As
>>>> for remembering to take the dog out etc, one could easily have an alarm
>>>> set...
>>>>
>>>> Meghan
>>>>
>>>> On 2/21/2012 8:47 AM, Mark J. Cadigan wrote:
>>>>> Cindy,
>>>>>
>>>>> Does something like that exist? It could possibly be a fun design
>>>>> project
>>>>>
>>>>> for one of my engineering classes.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 9:41 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guide Dogs for the Mind
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> YHou really can't technologize everything though. Sounds interesting
>>>>>> enough. Reminds me of the story, "There Will Come Soft Rains."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 21, 2012, at 8:12 AM, Mark J. Cadigan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Possibly, the dog food would be in an automatic dispensing device on
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> timer. The water boll could also have a reservoir it refills from.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To go out to releave it could have a doggy door.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 8:55 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guide Dogs for the Mind
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Okay, I'm all for any sort of service dog that can help with any
>>>>>>>> sort
>>>>>>>> of disabling condition. I think we've barely scratched the surface
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> what dogs can be taught to do.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But...there is one serious concern I have with this project. If the
>>>>>>>> individuals cannot remember to take their medications, how are they
>>>>>>>> going to remember to give their dog, food, water, let the dog out to
>>>>>>>> relieve or give the dog his medication if the need should arise?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Julie
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2/21/2012 7:37 AM, Steven Johnson wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Guide dogs for the mind: The retrievers being trained to give
>>>>>>>>> dementia sufferers a new life
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> By George Arbuthnott
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> First there were guide dogs for the blind, then hearing dogs for
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> deaf. Now man?s best friend could help to care for people suffering
>>>>>>>>> from dementia.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Golden retrievers and labradors are being taught to remind people
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> take their tablets, raise the alarm in an emergency, assist with
>>>>>>>>> undressing and help out around the home.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Under the ?Dementia Dog? project the animals are trained to respond
>>>>>>>>> to an alarm that goes off whenever a person who is struggling with
>>>>>>>>> memory loss needs to take medication.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The dogs will be taught to help people undress by gently pulling
>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>> gloves, socks and sleeves
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The dog then clenches its mouth around the medicine, stored in a
>>>>>>>>> bite-proof bag, and carries it to the sufferer.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Animals can also be taught to recognise a specific movement that
>>>>>>>>> their owner would make when in distress.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The dog would then either press an emergency button on a telephone
>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> bark loudly to raise the alarm.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And dogs can learn to open cupboards, drawers, fridges and washing
>>>>>>>>> machines, flick light switches, and even help people suffering from
>>>>>>>>> dementia to undress.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Experts say the animals can be trained to carry out any task that
>>>>>>>>> requires a pulling motion. So if a short rope is attached to a
>>>>>>>>> cupboard door, the dog can open it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When it comes to helping with undressing, the dogs are trained to
>>>>>>>>> pull at the sleeve of a coat or tug off socks.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So far the project has been given ?52,000 of Government funding,
>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>> needs to raise a further ?130,000 to launch a pilot scheme later
>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> year.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Eventually, it is hoped the initiative will allow many more of the
>>>>>>>>> 750,000 Britons who suffer from dementia to retain their
>>>>>>>>> independence
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> for longer.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The dogs will undergo a six-month training programme using
>>>>>>>>> ?positive
>>>>>>>>> reinforcement?, which means that whenever they complete a task
>>>>>>>>> correctly, they get a treat.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If the scheme, developed by voluntary organisation Alzheimer
>>>>>>>>> Scotland, gains funding, it will be the first time that dogs have
>>>>>>>>> been used to assist those with dementia.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A piece of string can be attached to handles so that doors and
>>>>>>>>> cupboards can be opened
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The organisation?s deputy director, Joyce Gray, said: ?We are
>>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>>> hopeful the dogs will not only be a huge practical help but also
>>>>>>>>> provide great emotional support.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ?People with the condition can easily become isolated and the dog
>>>>>>>>> will be a constant companion, which will help them to keep social.?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sufferers of early-stage dementia are now being urged to suggest
>>>>>>>>> other ways the dogs could improve their lives.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The feedback will be incorporated into the pilot scheme once the
>>>>>>>>> funding is raised.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Four students at Glasgow School of Art came up with the idea after
>>>>>>>>> Alzheimer Scotland challenged the college to suggest an innovative
>>>>>>>>> way to improve the lives of dementia sufferers.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The concept was pitched to the Design Council, which in partnership
>>>>>>>>> with the Department of Health was offering funding for projects
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> helped those with early-stage dementia.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The Dementia Dogs scheme has now gained the backing of charities
>>>>>>>>> Dogs
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For The Disabled and Guide Dogs, which already provide dogs with
>>>>>>>>> similar skills to help those with physical disabilities.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The number of people with dementia is set to hit one million by
>>>>>>>>> 2021
>>>>>>>>> and 1.7?million by 2050. It is believed that six out of ten of
>>>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>>>> with the condition are undiagnosed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sufferers of dementia and their relatives are urged to suggest ways
>>>>>>>>> that dogs could help them via the website dementiadog.org.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:32:20 -0700
>>> From: Sheila Leigland <sleigland at bresnan.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guide Dogs for the Mind
>>> Message-ID: <auto-000065374316 at fe-4.cluster1.bresnan.net>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>
>>> I wondered about that myself.
>>>
>>> Sheila Leigland
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 16:55:59 -0500
>>> From: Deanna Lewis <deannaandpascal at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Canine flu vaccine
>>> Message-ID:
>>> <CACV34nMDD4yONvhGJ=YPxXGfoNv8soBtU_p3DGUXTfDKsx78Yg at mail.gmail.com>
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>>>
>>> Hi Tracy,
>>> When I took Mr. Pascal to the vet in December, I got him the Canine Flu
>>> vaccine. I thought it would be beneficial as he is in contact with other
>>> dogs at NFB meetings, and conventions. And also, since we occasionally
>>> volunteer for the SPCA. Take care.
>>> Deanna and Pascal
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ben had his annual checkup yesterday. He's strong and healthy, which
>>>> confirmed my opinion.
>>>> The vet offered to give him a canine flu vaccine, which I declined. The
>>>> vet said dogs are most at risk when they congregate with large groups of
>>>> dogs, like in dog parks, the groomer's, or a kennel (or the dog track).
>>>> Ben doesn't go any of those places, and I want to keep the shots he gets
>>>> down to a minimum.
>>>> I wondered if others had gotten the vaccine for their dogs. I might
>>>> have,
>>>> if Ben went to the groomer.
>>>>
>>>> I did get him the lepto vaccine, which is kind of a pain, since he has
>>>> to
>>>> go in for a booster in 3 weeks. But the chances of him coming into
>>>> contact with squirrel urine seem pretty good. At least, there are lots
>>>> of
>>>> squirrels around here, and Ben's a curious guy. I had assumed that it
>>>> was
>>>> bundled with the distemper shot, DHLP, but this new vet likes it
>>>> separate.
>>>> Tracy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 4
>>> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 17:41:29 -0500
>>> From: Lea williams <leanicole1988 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guide Dogs for the Mind
>>> Message-ID:
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>>>
>>> I have the same thoughts about feeding them and all. My great grand
>>> mother had it really bad and there were many times that she did not
>>> even know her own family and would shove knives in the door jam to
>>> keep us from coming inside to cook her dinner and stuff. What if
>>> someone flips out over the dog being in the house and tries to run it
>>> off or something?
>>>
>>> i can see it working if they have family that comes everyday but I too
>>> think that there should be more thought to this. and yes you can
>>> despence food and water, but you can't do so with medicine so well.
>>>
>>> I hope there is a way to work it out because who knows how well it
>>> could work, maybe for someone who still lives with a husband or wife
>>> or other family members. And in most cases these people are not left
>>> alone all the time, they do have family and nurses coming in all the
>>> time to check on them.
>>>
>>> On 2/21/12, Sheila Leigland <sleigland at bresnan.net> wrote:
>>>> I wondered about that myself.
>>>>
>>>> Sheila Leigland
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Lea Williams
>>>
>>> Phone;
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 5
>>> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 16:49:23 -0700
>>> From: "Natalie" <nrorrell at qwest.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Running
>>> Message-ID: <5498B6C553034D1E9F5E6EF8763CC5FE at sansb0623c4f07>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>> reply-type=original
>>>
>>> Hi Tina,
>>> My boyfriend runs with his guide dog, and if it's okay with you, I'll
>>> forward your contact info to him. How are you and Dixie doing? He uses
>>> a
>>> nylon walk harness instead of the conventional one.
>>> Best,
>>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Tina Thomas" <tinadt at sbcglobal.net>
>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 11:57 AM
>>> Subject: [nagdu] Running
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hey folks, Has anyone had experience with running a 5K and or a half
>>>> marathon using a guide dog as a partner? Any tips and or and.
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 6
>>> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 16:55:33 -0700
>>> From: "Natalie" <nrorrell at qwest.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] New Guide Dog Usser
>>> Message-ID: <35F859A595784CD5920B45946217FBFB at sansb0623c4f07>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>> reply-type=original
>>>
>>> Hi Juanita and Anise,
>>> If no one has answered yet, as I'm behind on e-mail, Handiworks has an
>>> awesome sign. I have one, and most people have respected it. It's a
>>> fluorescent yellow with big letters. HTH.
>>> Best,
>>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Juanita Herrera" <juanita.herrera91 at gmail.com>
>>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 12:02 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] New Guide Dog Usser
>>>
>>>
>>>> Thank you all who have welcomed me to the list. Anise and I seem to be
>>>> doing well. I just wasn't too sure if her looking around was something
>>>> normal or not. Also, does anyone know where I could purchase the "Do
>>>> Not Pet Me" signs. I desperately need one. Once again thank you all.
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> Juanita And Anise
>>>>
>>>> On 2/8/12, nagdu-request at nfbnet.org <nagdu-request at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>>>>> Today's Topics:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Re: New Guide Dog User (loriandleo)
>>>>> 2. Re: New Guide Dog User (Sheila Leigland)
>>>>> 3. Re: flying, changes, and vet visit (Hannah Chadwick)
>>>>> 4. (no subject) (Sarah Williams)
>>>>> 5. Re: * important* was (no subject) (Julie J.)
>>>>> 6. The Room (Cindy Ray)
>>>>> 7. Re: New Guide Dog User (Marsha Drenth)
>>>>> 8. Re: The Room (Tracy Carcione)
>>>>> 9. Re: dog food and Re: flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>>> (Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC))
>>>>> 10. Re: dog food and Re: flying, changes, and vet visit (Cindy Ray)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 1
>>>>> Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 22:19:55 -0500
>>>>> From: "loriandleo" <loriandleo at ohiohills.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] New Guide Dog User
>>>>> Message-ID: <008301cce611$2f86d5e0$24dbe504 at o4r3f1>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Mathew,
>>>>>
>>>>> It's good to see you here. Also good luck with applyinga to Pilot Dogs.
>>>>> How
>>>>> do you like living in Columbus? Take care.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lori and the Gipper
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 2
>>>>> Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 22:57:07 -0700
>>>>> From: Sheila Leigland <sleigland at bresnan.net>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] New Guide Dog User
>>>>> Message-ID: <auto-000028135245 at fe-2.cluster1.bresnan.net>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi welcome to the list. I'm working with my second dog Tres a golden
>>>>> retriever. He is almost 30 or two and a half years old and is crazy
>>>>> about
>>>>> people. My first dog was a black lab and was very calm an obedient. My
>>>>> second dog has taken more work but it is worth the effort. He's doing
>>>>> better
>>>>> all the time.
>>>>>
>>>>> sheila leigland
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 3
>>>>> Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 22:07:36 -0800
>>>>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net>
>>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>>> Message-ID: <000d01cce627$f4980be0$ddc823a0$@suddenlink.net>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you Nat! she is doing much better now that she's on the food the
>>>>> vet
>>>>> recommended.
>>>>> Cheers, Hannah
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>> Behalf
>>>>> Of Natalie
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 5:58 PM
>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Hannah,
>>>>> I'm sorry to hear Ms. Princess isn't feeling too well, but I'm glad you
>>>>> had
>>>>> a safe flight back. I would do what your vet suggests. It may just be
>>>>> the
>>>>> changes of the new environment causing her to not feel well. I'll keep
>>>>> you
>>>>> guys in my thoughts and prayers and send her a wag from my best dog, no
>>>>> jest
>>>>> dog. Keep us posted, and if there's anything we can do, please don't
>>>>> hesitate to let us know.
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net>
>>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 4:30 PM
>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> Flying back to California with Princess was easy; she did a fantastic
>>>>>> job,
>>>>>> and you would have thought she's done that all her life *smile*.
>>>>>> Since we got back, Princess hasn't been eating much and I believe it's
>>>>>> due
>>>>>> to all the changes - time difference, new environment, etc. I gave her
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> couple of saltine crackers because my trainer asked me not to feed her
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> night prior to coming home, but she threw up on Friday night when we
>>>>>> got
>>>>>> back. I went to Petco on Saturday to get her milk bone treats and gave
>>>>>> her
>>>>>
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> couple on that day because we had been super busy and she did well
>>>>>> despite
>>>>>> all the changes. However, on Saturday night she started having very
>>>>>> soft
>>>>>> stool and by yesterday, she was having diarrhea. I took her to the vet
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> morning because I got very worried.
>>>>>> The vet said everything's ok, and that I should put her on white rice
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> boiled chicken mixed with low-fat cottage cheese for a few days
>>>>>> because
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> will help her stool go back to normal. I feel a little hesitant about
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> because my trainers mentioned again and again that we shouldn't feed
>>>>>> them
>>>>>> anything besides the food they are used to having. What do you all
>>>>>> think?
>>>>>> Should I go ahead and give her rice with boiled chicken and cottage
>>>>>> cheese
>>>>>> or should I keep her on science diet (which is the food they have been
>>>>>> eating)? I would love to hear feedback!
>>>>>> Cheers, Hannah
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 4
>>>>> Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 04:25:22 -0800 (PST)
>>>>> From: Sarah Williams <sarachan74 at yahoo.com>
>>>>> To: jenny26 at tds.net, lorafelty at windstream.net, nagdu at nfbnet.org,
>>>>> nbfk-subscribe at nfbnet.org
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>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 5
>>>>> Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2012 07:15:25 -0600
>>>>> From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] * important* was (no subject)
>>>>> Message-ID: <4F32756D.3040202 at neb.rr.com>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>>>>
>>>>> All,
>>>>>
>>>>> Do not click on the link in the below message. I have taken steps to
>>>>> address this problem. Please do not respond to this message.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>> Julie
>>>>> NAGDU list moderator
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/8/2012 6:25 AM, Sarah Williams wrote:
>>>>>> http://www.nadeemit.com/cgi-bin/wpeng.php?mia164.html
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 6
>>>>> Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 08:23:05 -0600
>>>>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] The Room
>>>>> Message-ID: <9110F592-A953-4D85-8F4A-4D285FDC1C97 at gmail.com>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>>>
>>>>> Yesterday was the first time I was subjected to the United Airlines
>>>>> warehouse for people with disabilities in Chicago. It was humiliating
>>>>> to
>>>>> say
>>>>> the least.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, I have a question for you. If your plane departure changes gates,
>>>>> do
>>>>> they flash it on a screen only or do they say it. Last time I was in
>>>>> Chicago, I went to my gate alone, but if there hadn't been a guy going
>>>>> to
>>>>> Des Moines on the same flight, I wouldn't have known they changed
>>>>> gates.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 7
>>>>> Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 10:03:26 -0500
>>>>> From: "Marsha Drenth" <marsha.drenth at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] New Guide Dog User
>>>>> Message-ID: <976276075F6D41DF82BE10BC37B3D683 at Cptr233>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>>>
>>>>> Juanita,
>>>>>
>>>>> Welcome to the list. I am Marsha, one of the moderators of the list. If
>>>>> you
>>>>> need anything please ask. A little about me, I'm working my second
>>>>> guide
>>>>> from Seeing Eye. Emma is a GSD who just turned 6 years old. We live in
>>>>> PA,
>>>>> just outside of Philadelphia. I am a full time student at Temple
>>>>> University.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope you like the list, it can be very busy but very slow too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Marsha
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>> Behalf
>>>>> Of Juanita Herrera
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 10:40 AM
>>>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] New Guide Dog User
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>>> My name is Juanita and I received my first guide dog a month ago from
>>>>> Guide Dogs For The Blind at the Oregon Campus. My guide dog's name is
>>>>> Anise and she is a black lab. She is very calm, but can have her
>>>>> random outbursts of energy. She is only 20 months old, and when we go
>>>>> places she loves to look at people. She gets distracted easily by just
>>>>> looking around. Is that normal due to her age? Also, how long does it
>>>>> take until a guide dog team feel completely in sink with each other?
>>>>> Hope some of you pro guide dog users can help. *smile*
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Juanita and Anise
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/6/12, nagdu-request at nfbnet.org <nagdu-request at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>> Send nagdu mailing list submissions to
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> Today's Topics:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Re: Update (Marsha Drenth)
>>>>>> 2. Re: Update (Cindy Ray)
>>>>>> 3. Re: Update (Larry D. Keeler)
>>>>>> 4. Getting a guide dog (RJ Sandefur)
>>>>>> 5. Re: Getting a guide dog (Cindy Ray)
>>>>>> 6. Re: Getting a guide dog (Tami Kinney)
>>>>>> 7. Re: Getting a guide dog (Margo and Arrow)
>>>>>> 8. Re: Getting a guide dog (Hannah Chadwick)
>>>>>> 9. Re: Getting a guide dog (Sheila Leigland)
>>>>>> 10. flying, changes, and vet visit (Hannah Chadwick)
>>>>>> 11. Re: Getting a guide dog (RJ Sandefur)
>>>>>> 12. Re: flying, changes, and vet visit (Jessica Pitzer)
>>>>>> 13. Re: flying, changes, and vet visit (Sheila Leigland)
>>>>>> 14. Re: flying, changes, and vet visit (Cindy Ray)
>>>>>> 15. Re: flying, changes, and vet visit (Hannah Chadwick)
>>>>>> 16. Re: Getting a guide dog (William Vandervest)
>>>>>> 17. Re: flying, changes, and vet visit (William Vandervest)
>>>>>> 18. Re: flying, changes, and vet visit (Cindy Ray)
>>>>>> 19. Re: Getting a guide dog (Larry D. Keeler)
>>>>>> 20. Re: Update (Jessica)
>>>>>> 21. Re: Getting a guide dog (Larry D. Keeler)
>>>>>> 22. Re: Getting a guide dog (Larry D. Keeler)
>>>>>> 23. Re: Getting a guide dog (Larry D. Keeler)
>>>>>> 24. Re: Getting a guide dog (Jessica)
>>>>>> 25. Re: flying, changes, and vet visit (Larry D. Keeler)
>>>>>> 26. Re: flying, changes, and vet visit (Hannah Chadwick)
>>>>>> 27. Re: Getting a guide dog (Larry D. Keeler)
>>>>>> 28. Re: flying, changes, and vet visit (Larry D. Keeler)
>>>>>> 29. Re: Getting a guide dog (Larry D. Keeler)
>>>>>> 30. Re: flying, changes, and vet visit (Hannah Chadwick)
>>>>>> 31. Re: flying, changes, and vet visit (Larry D. Keeler)
>>>>>> 32. Re: flying, changes, and vet visit (Hannah Chadwick)
>>>>>> 33. Re: Getting a guide dog (RJ Sandefur)
>>>>>> 34. Re: Getting a guide dog (Julie J.)
>>>>>> 35. Re: flying, changes, and vet visit (loriandleo)
>>>>>> 36. Re: flying, changes, and vet visit (t21114 at optonline.net)
>>>>>> 37. Re: Getting a guide dog (William Vandervest)
>>>>>> 38. Re: flying, changes, and vet visit (William Vandervest)
>>>>>> 39. Re: Getting a guide dog (William Vandervest)
>>>>>> 40. Re: flying, changes, and vet visit (William Vandervest)
>>>>>> 41. Re: Getting a guide dog (RJ Sandefur)
>>>>>> 42. Re: flying, changes, and vet visit (Larry D. Keeler)
>>>>>> 43. Re: Getting a guide dog (Larry D. Keeler)
>>>>>> 44. Re: flying, changes, and vet visit (Larry D. Keeler)
>>>>>> 45. Re: Getting a guide dog (Larry D. Keeler)
>>>>>> 46. Re: Getting a guide dog (William Vandervest)
>>>>>> 47. Re: Getting a guide dog (William Vandervest)
>>>>>> 48. Re: flying, changes, and vet visit (Criminal Justice Major)
>>>>>> 49. My Adventure and Odie's new bone (Criminal Justice Major)
>>>>>> 50. Re: Update (Cindy Ray)
>>>>>> 51. Re: Getting a guide dog (Cindy Ray)
>>>>>> 52. Re: Getting a guide dog (Cindy Ray)
>>>>>> 53. Re: flying, changes, and vet visit (Hannah Chadwick)
>>>>>> 54. Re: flying, changes, and vet visit (Hannah Chadwick)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 1
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 14:02:18 -0500
>>>>>> From: "Marsha Drenth" <marsha.drenth at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Update
>>>>>> Message-ID: <0E6A89967793464F954AA14EAF1E8F89 at Cptr233>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Jessica,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you for the update. Congrats on the upcoming wedding. Since both
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> you have guides, will you all be having the wedding with your pups
>>>>> involved?
>>>>>> More curious, sorry if its too personal. I am assuming your going to
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> moving to D.C., well welcome to the northeast!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am Marsha, working my 6 yo GSD from Seeing Eye. Emma and I, live in
>>>>>> PA,
>>>>> in
>>>>>> the greater Philadelphia area, with my husband and kitty, Gracie. Emma
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> I, are full time students at Temple University.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you need anything, please don't hesitate to ask.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Marsha, Co-Moderator
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>> Of Jessica
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 11:36 AM
>>>>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Update
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi All
>>>>>> As I was going through message it has been a while since I have
>>>>>> posted.
>>>>> I'm
>>>>>> Jessica and have Saunders. He is a yellow lab from GDB's Oregon
>>>>>> campus.
>>>>>> He
>>>>>> is a cuddle bunny but then can be totally hyper. Right now am planning
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> wedding. I am getting married in April and my fianc?'s dog came from
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> same place but is 4 years older than mine. I am nervous because am
>>>>>> moving
>>>>>> from a small town in Fl to Washington Dc's metro area but am excited
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> really put Mr. Saunders to work. He has done great on our visits and I
>>>>> even
>>>>>> think he works better when he is there. He just seems to be more
>>>>>> focused
>>>>> and
>>>>>> not as sniffy as when he walks down these roads at home. Hope everyone
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> doing well
>>>>>> Jessica
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>> nagdu:
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 2
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 13:07:07 -0600
>>>>>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Update
>>>>>> Message-ID: <71C7F990-86B9-4AB7-A438-B2AB3953278E at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jessica, congratulations on that upcoming area. That will be a change.
>>>>> Last
>>>>>> time I was married I moved from a university town in Kansas to a tiny
>>>>>> town
>>>>>> in Iowa, the opposite of you. Goodness, what a change. Now I'm in Des
>>>>>> Moines, quite a little busier. I know it will all go well for you
>>>>>> there.
>>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 6, 2012, at 10:35 AM, Jessica wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi All
>>>>>>> As I was going through message it has been a while since I have
>>>>>>> posted.
>>>>>>> I'm Jessica and have Saunders. He is a yellow lab from GDB's Oregon
>>>>>>> campus. He is a cuddle bunny but then can be totally hyper. Right now
>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>> planning my wedding. I am getting married in April and my fianc?'s
>>>>>>> dog
>>>>>>> came from the same place but is 4 years older than mine. I am nervous
>>>>>>> because am moving from a small town in Fl to Washington Dc's metro
>>>>>>> area
>>>>>>> but am excited to really put Mr. Saunders to work. He has done great
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> our visits and I even think he works better when he is there. He just
>>>>>>> seems to be more focused and not as sniffy as when he walks down
>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>> roads at home. Hope everyone is doing well
>>>>>>> Jessica
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/cindyray%40gmail.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 3
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 14:57:51 -0500
>>>>>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Update
>>>>>> Message-ID: <B3DC6F9B29ED442D9C529D99AC22BA5B at yourec0540d030>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>>> reply-type=original
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I here that DC is easy to get around/. My daughter attends Galludet
>>>>>> out
>>>>>> there. Are Y'all going to make the dogs dress up as well?
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Jessica" <anewheart0910groups at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 11:35 AM
>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Update
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi All
>>>>>> As I was going through message it has been a while since I have
>>>>>> posted.
>>>>> I'm
>>>>>> Jessica and have Saunders. He is a yellow lab from GDB's Oregon
>>>>>> campus.
>>>>>> He
>>>>>> is a cuddle bunny but then can be totally hyper. Right now am planning
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> wedding. I am getting married in April and my fianc?'s dog came from
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> same place but is 4 years older than mine. I am nervous because am
>>>>>> moving
>>>>>> from a small town in Fl to Washington Dc's metro area but am excited
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> really put Mr. Saunders to work. He has done great on our visits and I
>>>>> even
>>>>>> think he works better when he is there. He just seems to be more
>>>>>> focused
>>>>> and
>>>>>> not as sniffy as when he walks down these roads at home. Hope everyone
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> doing well
>>>>>> Jessica
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/lkeeler%40comcast.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 4
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 16:38:57 -0500
>>>>>> From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>>>> Message-ID: <E95496603EFF4CE28D50C5E2CB21D21C at hometwxakonvzn>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a questions for everyone on the list. What was it that made you
>>>>>> decide to get a guide dog? My Family and mobility instructor both tell
>>>>>> me
>>>>>> they do not see a need for me to have one. I live in Okeechobee
>>>>>> Florida.
>>>>> We
>>>>>> do not have any public transpertation. I practually have to be driven
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> church, the store etc. Others from people at church are telling me to
>>>>>> stop
>>>>>> making excuses, and get a dog, but when I tell them I am a cane
>>>>>> traveler,
>>>>>> they accuse me of not trying. I tell them it is a huge responcibility,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> they tell me that it is just me making excuses. Am I making excuses? I
>>>>>> do
>>>>>> not have the finational means in order to care for a guide dog. I'm
>>>>>> only
>>>>>> just making excuses. What do you as guide dog users think? I would
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> feed the dog, take it for check ups. It is an animal, and it is a
>>>>>> responcibility. RJ
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 5
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 16:38:10 -0600
>>>>>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>>>> Message-ID: <5135ADDB-153E-4DD0-938A-6933EE231630 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>>>>
>>>>>> First of all, I think it is your call if you want a dog or need one.
>>>>>> If
>>>>> you
>>>>>> are good with a cane, then you should continue using it. If you want a
>>>>> dog,
>>>>>> you should have one. I'm not sure how the dog would make
>>>>>> transportation
>>>>>> easier unless you would feel more confident walking if you had a dog.
>>>>>> If
>>>>> you
>>>>>> believe that's true, a dog is good. Dogs are a lot of responsibility,
>>>>>> but
>>>>> if
>>>>>> you love dogs and feel it is worth it to you, for me it would seem you
>>>>>> should consider getting a dog. I didn't catch how you really feel
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> yourself. A lot of people think the dog is the answer for all blind
>>>>> people.
>>>>>> The dog is not the answer for all blind people. My husband doesn't use
>>>>>> one
>>>>>> because he says he doesn't have the patience and would rather use a
>>>>>> cane.
>>>>>> What it really boils down to is you need to consider the pros and
>>>>>> cons;
>>>>>> if
>>>>>> you don't want a dog then don't get it. It's not an excuse and I don't
>>>>> know
>>>>>> what they mean when they say you aren't trying. You aren't trying to
>>>>>> do
>>>>>> what?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 6, 2012, at 3:38 PM, RJ Sandefur wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a questions for everyone on the list. What was it that made
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> decide to get a guide dog? My Family and mobility instructor both
>>>>>>> tell
>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>> they do not see a need for me to have one. I live in Okeechobee
>>>>>>> Florida.
>>>>>>> We do not have any public transpertation. I practually have to be
>>>>>>> driven
>>>>>>> to church, the store etc. Others from people at church are telling me
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> stop making excuses, and get a dog, but when I tell them I am a cane
>>>>>>> traveler, they accuse me of not trying. I tell them it is a huge
>>>>>>> responcibility, and they tell me that it is just me making excuses.
>>>>>>> Am
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> making excuses? I do not have the finational means in order to care
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> guide dog. I'm only just making excuses. What do you as guide dog
>>>>>>> users
>>>>>>> think? I would have to feed the dog, take it for check ups. It is an
>>>>>>> animal, and it is a responcibility. RJ
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/cindyray%40gmail.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 6
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2012 14:38:53 -0800
>>>>>> From: Tami Kinney <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>>>> Message-ID: <4F30567D.7020703 at comcast.net>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>>>>>
>>>>>> RJ,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good grief! What a nightmare people are making for you! I am so sorry
>>>>>> that you have to put up with it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In short, I chose guide dog because I just love dogs and knew I would
>>>>>> love that way of travel over cane. I'm a good cane traveler, but... I
>>>>>> prefer dog. Because I love dogs, I don't see all the hassles and all
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> hassles. /smile/ Also, my decision was made for me by physical abuse
>>>>>> from staff at the Oregon Commission for the Blind headquarters. Using
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> cane afterwards was making the original injuries worse by leaps and
>>>>>> bounds, and there was no way I could ever hope to start getting the
>>>>>> injuries healed while using a cane to go everywhere. Sigh. Because
>>>>>> those
>>>>>> injuries and other events at the time I was there brought my old
>>>>>> fibromyalgia out of remission -- or caused a whole new onset, as it
>>>>>> seems to me -- I needed to deal with the travel problem and became
>>>>>> physically unable to even *think* about the rigors of a guide dog
>>>>>> program. So I got me a poodle pup and when she proved to have "the
>>>>>> right
>>>>>> stuff," just up and trained her myself. /smile/ I had tons of training
>>>>>> experience since I was too young to remember, so I knew I had the
>>>>>> right
>>>>>> stuff, too, but it was a pretty daunting project. I still sometimes
>>>>>> find
>>>>>> myself going about with my super duper poodle guide and feel suddenly
>>>>>> shocked. How'd that happen? /lol/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As an owner-trainer, I know all about getting, um, strong-smelling
>>>>>> brown
>>>>>> stuff over every decision you make to do with dogs canes socks... Oh,
>>>>>> my! Who needs it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's my story.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your story is your story. Your decisions are your decisions.
>>>>>> Remembering
>>>>>> that when everybody else is telling you what your story is according
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> them and what you should do based on the life and times they have so
>>>>>> kindly invented for you is not easy. In fact, it is just plain
>>>>>> maddening!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your reasons are yours. They reflect your reality. And most of us on
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> list can easily remind you that you have been gathering information to
>>>>>> make the best decision for yourself for quite a while. If you wish to
>>>>>> stick with your cane at this point in your life -- or for all the rest
>>>>>> of it -- that is *no one's* choice but yours.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh, and when you live in a place with no sidewalks and no safe place
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> walk where traffic won't mow you down... Even with a guide dog, you
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> need a ride. Trust me, I go nuts over being in that position every
>>>>>> day.
>>>>>> /lol/ It's just a regular item on my to do list so that I can get it
>>>>>> out
>>>>>> of my system and get on with my day so I can give myself better
>>>>>> options.
>>>>>> /grin/ If people want to grump at me about my decisions about how to
>>>>>> deal with what exists in the real world, I just smile blandly and
>>>>>> shrug.
>>>>>> If they want to go risk their lives doing what they think I should do,
>>>>>> fine. People die out there, and they have sight and everything. I
>>>>>> don't
>>>>>> think anyone else's approval is worth dying over, and I'm sure not
>>>>>> going
>>>>>> to risk my dog. She's got great traffic training and is a total pro.
>>>>>> But
>>>>>> she can't do magic with a road full of crazy, inattentive
>>>>>> non-law-abiding drivers with no protection between us and them. Sooner
>>>>>> or later... So. That's my decision. If I make the wrong decision to
>>>>>> please someone else, they won't be haunted for the rest of their
>>>>>> broken,
>>>>>> crippled lives by what they let happen to a really great dog, will
>>>>>> they?
>>>>>> Nope!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't know if that attitude of mine is helpful for you, but I got it a
>>>>>> long time ago from someone very wise. If someone tells you to go play
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> the freeway, and you do it because they want you to and you want to
>>>>>> make
>>>>>> them happy... They don't get run over. You do. /smile/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best to you! Sooner or later, you can get to a point where you are
>>>>>> surrounded by people who respect and support you for who you are. It
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> not always easy, though, as I also know. And it's really tough when
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> pressure is so much and you hear the same thing over and over so often
>>>>>> and said so strongly and reinforced so heavily that you doubt
>>>>>> yourself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You're doing well!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tami
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 02/06/2012 01:38 PM, RJ Sandefur wrote:
>>>>>>> I have a questions for everyone on the list. What was it that made
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> decide to get a guide dog? My Family and mobility instructor both
>>>>>>> tell
>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>> they do not see a need for me to have one. I live in Okeechobee
>>>>>>> Florida.
>>>>>>> We do not have any public transpertation. I practually have to be
>>>>>>> driven
>>>>>>> to church, the store etc. Others from people at church are telling me
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> stop making excuses, and get a dog, but when I tell them I am a cane
>>>>>>> traveler, they accuse me of not trying. I tell them it is a huge
>>>>>>> responcibility, and they tell me that it is just me making excuses.
>>>>>>> Am
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> making excuses? I do not have the finational means in order to care
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> guide dog. I'm only just making excuses. What do you as guide dog
>>>>>>> users
>>>>>>> think? I would have to feed the dog, take it for check ups. It is an
>>>>>>> animal, and it is a responcibility. RJ
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>>>>
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/tamara.8024%40comcast.net
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 7
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2012 18:07:33 -0500
>>>>>> From: "Margo and Arrow" <margo.downey at verizon.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>>>> Message-ID: <64B360ED52734989A98711C938DF2AEF at margoda7a829ca>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
>>>>>> reply-type=original
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Even if you're good with a cane but prefer a dog, that's fine, too. I
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> always a good cane user but prefer a dog.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> margo and Arrow
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 5:38 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> First of all, I think it is your call if you want a dog or need one.
>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>> you are good with a cane, then you should continue using it. If you
>>>>>>> want
>>>>> a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> dog, you should have one. I'm not sure how the dog would make
>>>>>>> transportation easier unless you would feel more confident walking if
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> had a dog. If you believe that's true, a dog is good. Dogs are a lot
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> responsibility, but if you love dogs and feel it is worth it to you,
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> me it would seem you should consider getting a dog. I didn't catch
>>>>>>> how
>>>>> you
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> really feel about it yourself. A lot of people think the dog is the
>>>>> answer
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> for all blind people. The dog is not the answer for all blind people.
>>>>>>> My
>>>>>>> husband doesn't use one because he says he doesn't have the patience
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> would rather use a cane. What it really boils down to is you need to
>>>>>>> consider the pros and cons; if you don't want a dog then don't get
>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>> It's not an excuse and I don't know what they mean when they say you
>>>>>>> aren't trying. You aren't trying to do what?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 6, 2012, at 3:38 PM, RJ Sandefur wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have a questions for everyone on the list. What was it that made
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> decide to get a guide dog? My Family and mobility instructor both
>>>>>>>> tell
>>>>> me
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> they do not see a need for me to have one. I live in Okeechobee
>>>>>>>> Florida.
>>>>>>>> We do not have any public transpertation. I practually have to be
>>>>>>>> driven
>>>>>>>> to church, the store etc. Others from people at church are telling
>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> stop making excuses, and get a dog, but when I tell them I am a cane
>>>>>>>> traveler, they accuse me of not trying. I tell them it is a huge
>>>>>>>> responcibility, and they tell me that it is just me making excuses.
>>>>>>>> Am
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> making excuses? I do not have the finational means in order to care
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> guide dog. I'm only just making excuses. What do you as guide dog
>>>>>>>> users
>>>>>>>> think? I would have to feed the dog, take it for check ups. It is an
>>>>>>>> animal, and it is a responcibility. RJ
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 8
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 15:09:09 -0800
>>>>>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net>
>>>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>>>> Message-ID: <000001cce524$57246c90$056d45b0$@suddenlink.net>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> RJ,
>>>>>> I got a guide dog because I was ready to take on the responsibility
>>>>>> and
>>>>> yes
>>>>>> it is a huge one at that. I recently (three days ago) graduated from
>>>>>> Pilot
>>>>>> Dogs with my guide and already I've had to take her to the vet. It can
>>>>>> get
>>>>>> expensive and if you do not feel like you are ready, then I think you
>>>>> should
>>>>>> probably wait.
>>>>>> Best, Hannah
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>> Of RJ Sandefur
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 1:39 PM
>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a questions for everyone on the list. What was it that made you
>>>>>> decide to get a guide dog? My Family and mobility instructor both tell
>>>>>> me
>>>>>> they do not see a need for me to have one. I live in Okeechobee
>>>>>> Florida.
>>>>> We
>>>>>> do not have any public transpertation. I practually have to be driven
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> church, the store etc. Others from people at church are telling me to
>>>>>> stop
>>>>>> making excuses, and get a dog, but when I tell them I am a cane
>>>>>> traveler,
>>>>>> they accuse me of not trying. I tell them it is a huge responcibility,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> they tell me that it is just me making excuses. Am I making excuses? I
>>>>>> do
>>>>>> not have the finational means in order to care for a guide dog. I'm
>>>>>> only
>>>>>> just making excuses. What do you as guide dog users think? I would
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> feed the dog, take it for check ups. It is an animal, and it is a
>>>>>> responcibility. RJ _______________________________________________
>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>>>
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/sparklylicious%40suddenli
>>>>>> nk.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 9
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 16:24:13 -0700
>>>>>> From: Sheila Leigland <sleigland at bresnan.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>>>> Message-ID: <auto-000027687392 at fe-2.cluster1.bresnan.net>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi rj I got a dog partially because my husband thought it would be a
>>>>>> good
>>>>>> idea, but mostly I got one because we lived in a neighborhood where
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> corners aren't straight across from each other and I was having
>>>>>> trouble
>>>>>> crossing streets straight and people tended to park boats across their
>>>>>> driveways and my cane slipped underneath one and I hit it at chest
>>>>>> level.
>>>>> I
>>>>>> still knows how to use a cane but enjoy the companionship with a dog.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> sheila leigland
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 10
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 15:30:27 -0800
>>>>>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net>
>>>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>>>> Message-ID: <000201cce527$4f312d90$ed9388b0$@suddenlink.net>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> Flying back to California with Princess was easy; she did a fantastic
>>>>>> job,
>>>>>> and you would have thought she's done that all her life *smile*.
>>>>>> Since we got back, Princess hasn't been eating much and I believe it's
>>>>>> due
>>>>>> to all the changes - time difference, new environment, etc. I gave her
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> couple of saltine crackers because my trainer asked me not to feed her
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> night prior to coming home, but she threw up on Friday night when we
>>>>>> got
>>>>>> back. I went to Petco on Saturday to get her milk bone treats and gave
>>>>>> her
>>>>> a
>>>>>> couple on that day because we had been super busy and she did well
>>>>>> despite
>>>>>> all the changes. However, on Saturday night she started having very
>>>>>> soft
>>>>>> stool and by yesterday, she was having diarrhea. I took her to the vet
>>>>> this
>>>>>> morning because I got very worried.
>>>>>> The vet said everything's ok, and that I should put her on white rice
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> boiled chicken mixed with low-fat cottage cheese for a few days
>>>>>> because
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> will help her stool go back to normal. I feel a little hesitant about
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> because my trainers mentioned again and again that we shouldn't feed
>>>>>> them
>>>>>> anything besides the food they are used to having. What do you all
>>>>>> think?
>>>>>> Should I go ahead and give her rice with boiled chicken and cottage
>>>>>> cheese
>>>>>> or should I keep her on science diet (which is the food they have been
>>>>>> eating)? I would love to hear feedback!
>>>>>> Cheers, Hannah
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 11
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 18:35:12 -0500
>>>>>> From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>>>> Message-ID: <B09A299BFDD24E7BA307D57EAC1D3BE8 at hometwxakonvzn>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>>> reply-type=response
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here is what my mobility instructor said in his report.
>>>>>> Preparation for guide dog - Mr. Sandefur had training to simulate use
>>>>>> of
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> guide
>>>>>> within the context of residential travel and semi-commercial travel.
>>>>>> Mr.
>>>>>> Sandefur
>>>>>> found the orientation very challenging and after reflecting on his
>>>>>> experience, he
>>>>>> has since decided that he prefers the use of a long cane to guide dog
>>>>>> travel.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Recommendations: Mr. Sandefur will need additional training to
>>>>>> accomplish
>>>>>> his goal of
>>>>>> commercial travel. It should be noted that Mr. Sandefur has decided to
>>>>>> no
>>>>>> longer pursue
>>>>>> his goal of guide dog preparation. Some people at church feel I gave
>>>>>> up
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> soon, and that I didn't try heard enough. My family has told me not to
>>>>> apply
>>>>>> for a guide dog because I'd just be wasting my time, but how am I
>>>>>> supposed
>>>>>> to know if I'm really ready to repsue this again in the future? My
>>>>>> mentel
>>>>>> health said that I have trouble ajusting to new things. RJ
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Margo and Arrow" <margo.downey at verizon.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 6:07 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Even if you're good with a cane but prefer a dog, that's fine, too.
>>>>>>> I
>>>>> was
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> always a good cane user but prefer a dog.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> margo and Arrow
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 5:38 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> First of all, I think it is your call if you want a dog or need one.
>>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>>> you are good with a cane, then you should continue using it. If you
>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>> a dog, you should have one. I'm not sure how the dog would make
>>>>>>>> transportation easier unless you would feel more confident walking
>>>>>>>> if
>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> had a dog. If you believe that's true, a dog is good. Dogs are a lot
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> responsibility, but if you love dogs and feel it is worth it to you,
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> me it would seem you should consider getting a dog. I didn't catch
>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>> you really feel about it yourself. A lot of people think the dog is
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> answer for all blind people. The dog is not the answer for all blind
>>>>>>>> people. My husband doesn't use one because he says he doesn't have
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> patience and would rather use a cane. What it really boils down to
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> need to consider the pros and cons; if you don't want a dog then
>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>> get it. It's not an excuse and I don't know what they mean when they
>>>>>>>> say
>>>>>>>> you aren't trying. You aren't trying to do what?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Feb 6, 2012, at 3:38 PM, RJ Sandefur wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have a questions for everyone on the list. What was it that made
>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> decide to get a guide dog? My Family and mobility instructor both
>>>>>>>>> tell
>>>>>>>>> me they do not see a need for me to have one. I live in Okeechobee
>>>>>>>>> Florida. We do not have any public transpertation. I practually
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> be driven to church, the store etc. Others from people at church
>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>> telling me to stop making excuses, and get a dog, but when I tell
>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> am a cane traveler, they accuse me of not trying. I tell them it is
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> huge responcibility, and they tell me that it is just me making
>>>>> excuses.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Am I making excuses? I do not have the finational means in order to
>>>>> care
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> for a guide dog. I'm only just making excuses. What do you as guide
>>>>>>>>> dog
>>>>>>>>> users think? I would have to feed the dog, take it for check ups.
>>>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> an animal, and it is a responcibility. RJ
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
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>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> nagdu:
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>> t
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>> il.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 12
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 18:37:17 -0500
>>>>>> From: Jessica Pitzer <rolosgirl at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>>> <CAPyV18+rU1CmWVKONB9wHDdN9FmTgBm08BBnZkHAL6VBqQTLRA at mail.gmail.com>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would do the chicken, it will definitely help her tummy, and in 2 or
>>>>>> 3 days you can start slowly start mixing the science diet back in with
>>>>>> the rice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/6/12, Hannah Chadwick <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>> Flying back to California with Princess was easy; she did a fantastic
>>>>> job,
>>>>>>> and you would have thought she's done that all her life *smile*.
>>>>>>> Since we got back, Princess hasn't been eating much and I believe
>>>>>>> it's
>>>>> due
>>>>>>> to all the changes - time difference, new environment, etc. I gave
>>>>>>> her
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> couple of saltine crackers because my trainer asked me not to feed
>>>>>>> her
>>>>> the
>>>>>>> night prior to coming home, but she threw up on Friday night when we
>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>> back. I went to Petco on Saturday to get her milk bone treats and
>>>>>>> gave
>>>>> her
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> couple on that day because we had been super busy and she did well
>>>>> despite
>>>>>>> all the changes. However, on Saturday night she started having very
>>>>>>> soft
>>>>>>> stool and by yesterday, she was having diarrhea. I took her to the
>>>>>>> vet
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> morning because I got very worried.
>>>>>>> The vet said everything's ok, and that I should put her on white rice
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> boiled chicken mixed with low-fat cottage cheese for a few days
>>>>>>> because
>>>>> it
>>>>>>> will help her stool go back to normal. I feel a little hesitant about
>>>>> this
>>>>>>> because my trainers mentioned again and again that we shouldn't feed
>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>> anything besides the food they are used to having. What do you all
>>>>>>> think?
>>>>>>> Should I go ahead and give her rice with boiled chicken and cottage
>>>>> cheese
>>>>>>> or should I keep her on science diet (which is the food they have
>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>> eating)? I would love to hear feedback!
>>>>>>> Cheers, Hannah
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/rolosgirl%40gmail.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 13
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 16:40:20 -0700
>>>>>> From: Sheila Leigland <sleigland at bresnan.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>>>> Message-ID: <auto-000045192255 at fe-3.cluster1.bresnan.net>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Our vet recomends cutting way back on food and over a few days
>>>>>> gradually
>>>>>> increase to the amounts she is use to. Changes of water and routein
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> interfere with their systems for a while. Make sure she is drinking
>>>>>> water
>>>>>> though
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 14
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 17:39:57 -0600
>>>>>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>>>> Message-ID: <E35983A8-C9C1-4AEB-88BB-CAD4F4FE9CB2 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, first of all, your trainers are talking about normal times. I
>>>>>> would
>>>>> do
>>>>>> what the vet said. Not sure why boiled chicken and cottage cheese, but
>>>>> I've
>>>>>> used cottage cheese and I've used lean hamburger. You give them that
>>>>>> and,
>>>>> at
>>>>>> least what I did, was gradually rework in the regularly scheduled food
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> the dog seemed to be better.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 6, 2012, at 5:30 PM, Hannah Chadwick wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>> Flying back to California with Princess was easy; she did a fantastic
>>>>> job,
>>>>>>> and you would have thought she's done that all her life *smile*.
>>>>>>> Since we got back, Princess hasn't been eating much and I believe
>>>>>>> it's
>>>>> due
>>>>>>> to all the changes - time difference, new environment, etc. I gave
>>>>>>> her
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> couple of saltine crackers because my trainer asked me not to feed
>>>>>>> her
>>>>> the
>>>>>>> night prior to coming home, but she threw up on Friday night when we
>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>> back. I went to Petco on Saturday to get her milk bone treats and
>>>>>>> gave
>>>>> her
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> couple on that day because we had been super busy and she did well
>>>>> despite
>>>>>>> all the changes. However, on Saturday night she started having very
>>>>>>> soft
>>>>>>> stool and by yesterday, she was having diarrhea. I took her to the
>>>>>>> vet
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> morning because I got very worried.
>>>>>>> The vet said everything's ok, and that I should put her on white rice
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> boiled chicken mixed with low-fat cottage cheese for a few days
>>>>>>> because
>>>>> it
>>>>>>> will help her stool go back to normal. I feel a little hesitant about
>>>>> this
>>>>>>> because my trainers mentioned again and again that we shouldn't feed
>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>> anything besides the food they are used to having. What do you all
>>>>>>> think?
>>>>>>> Should I go ahead and give her rice with boiled chicken and cottage
>>>>> cheese
>>>>>>> or should I keep her on science diet (which is the food they have
>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>> eating)? I would love to hear feedback!
>>>>>>> Cheers, Hannah
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/cindyray%40gmail.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 15
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 15:48:56 -0800
>>>>>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net>
>>>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>>>> Message-ID: <000401cce529$e43af270$acb0d750$@suddenlink.net>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, she has been drinking lots and lots of water!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>> Of Cindy Ray
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 3:40 PM
>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, first of all, your trainers are talking about normal times. I
>>>>>> would
>>>>> do
>>>>>> what the vet said. Not sure why boiled chicken and cottage cheese, but
>>>>> I've
>>>>>> used cottage cheese and I've used lean hamburger. You give them that
>>>>>> and,
>>>>> at
>>>>>> least what I did, was gradually rework in the regularly scheduled food
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> the dog seemed to be better.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 6, 2012, at 5:30 PM, Hannah Chadwick wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>> Flying back to California with Princess was easy; she did a fantastic
>>>>>>> job, and you would have thought she's done that all her life *smile*.
>>>>>>> Since we got back, Princess hasn't been eating much and I believe
>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>> due to all the changes - time difference, new environment, etc. I
>>>>>>> gave
>>>>>>> her a couple of saltine crackers because my trainer asked me not to
>>>>>>> feed her the night prior to coming home, but she threw up on Friday
>>>>>>> night when we got back. I went to Petco on Saturday to get her milk
>>>>>>> bone treats and gave her a couple on that day because we had been
>>>>>>> super busy and she did well despite all the changes. However, on
>>>>>>> Saturday night she started having very soft stool and by yesterday,
>>>>>>> she was having diarrhea. I took her to the vet this morning because I
>>>>>>> got
>>>>>> very worried.
>>>>>>> The vet said everything's ok, and that I should put her on white rice
>>>>>>> and boiled chicken mixed with low-fat cottage cheese for a few days
>>>>>>> because it will help her stool go back to normal. I feel a little
>>>>>>> hesitant about this because my trainers mentioned again and again
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> we shouldn't feed them anything besides the food they are used to
>>>>>>> having.
>>>>>> What do you all think?
>>>>>>> Should I go ahead and give her rice with boiled chicken and cottage
>>>>>>> cheese or should I keep her on science diet (which is the food they
>>>>>>> have been eating)? I would love to hear feedback!
>>>>>>> Cheers, Hannah
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/cindyray%40gmail.co
>>>>>>> m
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>>>
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/sparklylicious%40suddenli
>>>>>> nk.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 16
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 19:04:15 -0500
>>>>>> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>>>> Message-ID: <25C969D157174B5FB1F6AFE8A9852A32 at Babylon5>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>>> reply-type=original
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hi, the only person i listened to when deciding to get a dog was me,
>>>>> because
>>>>>> i'm the only one who truely knows my abilities and limitations, and i
>>>>>> personaly have always loved all our 4 footed, feathered, finned and
>>>>>> scaled
>>>>>> friends (except for roaches, YUCK)
>>>>>> thats my story, and i'm stick'en to it lol
>>>>>> just make the decision on whats best for you and nobody else
>>>>>> William And LD Lynard
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 17
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 19:09:48 -0500
>>>>>> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>>>> Message-ID: <CF213EEF259748EBADCE6E31D96FAD54 at Babylon5>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>>> reply-type=original
>>>>>>
>>>>>> like they told me before i brought Lynard home from Leader, just trust
>>>>> your
>>>>>> vet, he/she iscloser to the situation then those at the school once
>>>>>> you
>>>>> take
>>>>>> the dog home
>>>>>> William And LD Lynard
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 18
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 18:10:50 -0600
>>>>>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>>>> Message-ID: <679B261F-B6F5-4B6A-8D9B-87E64C41D92D at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think what William has said here is good advice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 6, 2012, at 6:09 PM, William Vandervest wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> like they told me before i brought Lynard home from Leader, just
>>>>>>> trust
>>>>>>> your vet, he/she iscloser to the situation then those at the school
>>>>>>> once
>>>>>>> you take the dog home
>>>>>>> William And LD Lynard
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 19
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 19:36:00 -0500
>>>>>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>>>> Message-ID: <64281422A75447F0B6E91BDF5C5A34EC at yourec0540d030>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>>> reply-type=original
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In my case, I just like dogs! I find the responsibility no big deal.
>>>>> Well,
>>>>>> sometimes the money is squeezed a bit! I find that I can move much
>>>>>> faster
>>>>>> with a dog. I already move pretty good with a cane but I can run with
>>>>>> Holly! But, if you don't want the responsibility that could be a big
>>>>> deal!
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 4:38 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I have a questions for everyone on the list. What was it that made you
>>>>>>>decide to get a guide dog? My Family and mobility instructor both tell
>>>>>>>me
>>>>>>>they do not see a need for me to have one. I live in Okeechobee
>>>>>>> Florida.
>>>>> We
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>do not have any public transpertation. I practually have to be driven
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>church, the store etc. Others from people at church are telling me to
>>>>>>>stop
>>>>>>>making excuses, and get a dog, but when I tell them I am a cane
>>>>>>>traveler,
>>>>>>>they accuse me of not trying. I tell them it is a huge responcibility,
>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>they tell me that it is just me making excuses. Am I making excuses? I
>>>>>>>do
>>>>>>>not have the finational means in order to care for a guide dog. I'm
>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>just making excuses. What do you as guide dog users think? I would
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>feed the dog, take it for check ups. It is an animal, and it is a
>>>>>>>responcibility. RJ
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>>>> nagdu:
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 20
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 19:37:02 -0500
>>>>>> From: "Jessica" <anewheart0910groups at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Update
>>>>>> Message-ID: <11E4FC18C0FB4007B1B240B53FA7B1BE at jessicasearsPC>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>>> reply-type=original
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi All
>>>>>> The doggies will not be in the wedding as my dog sort of likes to hump
>>>>> other
>>>>>> doggies. Gdb is going to work on this when they come to work with me
>>>>>> after
>>>>> I
>>>>>> get settled there and have a bit of mobility haha. I lived in Orlando
>>>>>> for
>>>>> 3
>>>>>> years while I worked at a hotel but moved back to my home town before
>>>>>> getting my doggie. Thanks all for the responses.
>>>>>> Jess
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> From: "Marsha Drenth" <marsha.drenth at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 2:02 PM
>>>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Update
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Jessica,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you for the update. Congrats on the upcoming wedding. Since
>>>>>>> both
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> you have guides, will you all be having the wedding with your pups
>>>>>>> involved?
>>>>>>> More curious, sorry if its too personal. I am assuming your going to
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> moving to D.C., well welcome to the northeast!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am Marsha, working my 6 yo GSD from Seeing Eye. Emma and I, live in
>>>>>>> PA,
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> the greater Philadelphia area, with my husband and kitty, Gracie.
>>>>>>> Emma
>>>>> and
>>>>>>> I, are full time students at Temple University.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you need anything, please don't hesitate to ask.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Marsha, Co-Moderator
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>> Of Jessica
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 11:36 AM
>>>>>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Update
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi All
>>>>>>> As I was going through message it has been a while since I have
>>>>>>> posted.
>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>> Jessica and have Saunders. He is a yellow lab from GDB's Oregon
>>>>>>> campus.
>>>>> He
>>>>>>> is a cuddle bunny but then can be totally hyper. Right now am
>>>>>>> planning
>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>> wedding. I am getting married in April and my fianc?'s dog came from
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> same place but is 4 years older than mine. I am nervous because am
>>>>>>> moving
>>>>>>> from a small town in Fl to Washington Dc's metro area but am excited
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> really put Mr. Saunders to work. He has done great on our visits and
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>> think he works better when he is there. He just seems to be more
>>>>>>> focused
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> not as sniffy as when he walks down these roads at home. Hope
>>>>>>> everyone
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> doing well
>>>>>>> Jessica
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 21
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 19:38:42 -0500
>>>>>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>>>> Message-ID: <D8ACDFC3CB6F4865A2BBA15BE2AB3FA8 at yourec0540d030>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>>> reply-type=original
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cindy, before I got Holly, everyone would always ask me why I didn't
>>>>>> get
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> dog! I just didn't want one at the time and that was all there was to
>>>>>> it!
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 5:38 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> First of all, I think it is your call if you want a dog or need one.
>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>> you are good with a cane, then you should continue using it. If you
>>>>>>> want
>>>>> a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> dog, you should have one. I'm not sure how the dog would make
>>>>>>> transportation easier unless you would feel more confident walking if
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> had a dog. If you believe that's true, a dog is good. Dogs are a lot
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> responsibility, but if you love dogs and feel it is worth it to you,
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> me it would seem you should consider getting a dog. I didn't catch
>>>>>>> how
>>>>> you
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> really feel about it yourself. A lot of people think the dog is the
>>>>> answer
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> for all blind people. The dog is not the answer for all blind people.
>>>>>>> My
>>>>>>> husband doesn't use one because he says he doesn't have the patience
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> would rather use a cane. What it really boils down to is you need to
>>>>>>> consider the pros and cons; if you don't want a dog then don't get
>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>> It's not an excuse and I don't know what they mean when they say you
>>>>>>> aren't trying. You aren't trying to do what?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 6, 2012, at 3:38 PM, RJ Sandefur wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have a questions for everyone on the list. What was it that made
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> decide to get a guide dog? My Family and mobility instructor both
>>>>>>>> tell
>>>>> me
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> they do not see a need for me to have one. I live in Okeechobee
>>>>>>>> Florida.
>>>>>>>> We do not have any public transpertation. I practually have to be
>>>>>>>> driven
>>>>>>>> to church, the store etc. Others from people at church are telling
>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> stop making excuses, and get a dog, but when I tell them I am a cane
>>>>>>>> traveler, they accuse me of not trying. I tell them it is a huge
>>>>>>>> responcibility, and they tell me that it is just me making excuses.
>>>>>>>> Am
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> making excuses? I do not have the finational means in order to care
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> guide dog. I'm only just making excuses. What do you as guide dog
>>>>>>>> users
>>>>>>>> think? I would have to feed the dog, take it for check ups. It is an
>>>>>>>> animal, and it is a responcibility. RJ
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> nagdu:
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 22
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 19:41:09 -0500
>>>>>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>>>> Message-ID: <4C6554F919D0499BB17B523B03B4675E at yourec0540d030>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>>> reply-type=response
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tami, you just wanted to look like a poodle! RJ, at least you don't
>>>>>> have
>>>>> to
>>>>>> take the cane out to poop when its well below zero outside! Oh, I
>>>>>> forgot,
>>>>>> it never does that down in the everglades!
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Tami Kinney" <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 5:38 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RJ,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good grief! What a nightmare people are making for you! I am so sorry
>>>>> that
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> you have to put up with it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In short, I chose guide dog because I just love dogs and knew I would
>>>>> love
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> that way of travel over cane. I'm a good cane traveler, but... I
>>>>>>> prefer
>>>>>>> dog. Because I love dogs, I don't see all the hassles and all as
>>>>>>> hassles.
>>>>>>> /smile/ Also, my decision was made for me by physical abuse from
>>>>>>> staff
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> the Oregon Commission for the Blind headquarters. Using a cane
>>>>>>> afterwards
>>>>>>> was making the original injuries worse by leaps and bounds, and there
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>> no way I could ever hope to start getting the injuries healed while
>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>> a cane to go everywhere. Sigh. Because those injuries and other
>>>>>>> events
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> the time I was there brought my old fibromyalgia out of remission --
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>> caused a whole new onset, as it seems to me -- I needed to deal with
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> travel problem and became physically unable to even *think* about the
>>>>>>> rigors of a guide dog program. So I got me a poodle pup and when she
>>>>>>> proved to have "the right stuff," just up and trained her myself.
>>>>>>> /smile/
>>>>>>> I had tons of training experience since I was too young to remember,
>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> knew I had the right stuff, too, but it was a pretty daunting
>>>>>>> project.
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> still sometimes find myself going about with my super duper poodle
>>>>>>> guide
>>>>>>> and feel suddenly shocked. How'd that happen? /lol/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As an owner-trainer, I know all about getting, um, strong-smelling
>>>>>>> brown
>>>>>>> stuff over every decision you make to do with dogs canes socks...
>>>>>>> Oh,
>>>>> my!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Who needs it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's my story.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your story is your story. Your decisions are your decisions.
>>>>>>> Remembering
>>>>>>> that when everybody else is telling you what your story is according
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> them and what you should do based on the life and times they have so
>>>>>>> kindly invented for you is not easy. In fact, it is just plain
>>>>>>> maddening!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your reasons are yours. They reflect your reality. And most of us on
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> list can easily remind you that you have been gathering information
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> make the best decision for yourself for quite a while. If you wish to
>>>>>>> stick with your cane at this point in your life -- or for all the
>>>>>>> rest
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> it -- that is *no one's* choice but yours.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh, and when you live in a place with no sidewalks and no safe place
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> walk where traffic won't mow you down... Even with a guide dog, you
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> need a ride. Trust me, I go nuts over being in that position every
>>>>>>> day.
>>>>>>> /lol/ It's just a regular item on my to do list so that I can get it
>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>> of my system and get on with my day so I can give myself better
>>>>>>> options.
>>>>>>> /grin/ If people want to grump at me about my decisions about how to
>>>>>>> deal
>>>>>>> with what exists in the real world, I just smile blandly and shrug.
>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>> they want to go risk their lives doing what they think I should do,
>>>>>>> fine.
>>>>>>> People die out there, and they have sight and everything. I don't
>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>> anyone else's approval is worth dying over, and I'm sure not going to
>>>>> risk
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> my dog. She's got great traffic training and is a total pro. But she
>>>>> can't
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> do magic with a road full of crazy, inattentive non-law-abiding
>>>>>>> drivers
>>>>>>> with no protection between us and them. Sooner or later... So. That's
>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>> decision. If I make the wrong decision to please someone else, they
>>>>>>> won't
>>>>>>> be haunted for the rest of their broken, crippled lives by what they
>>>>>>> let
>>>>>>> happen to a really great dog, will they? Nope!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Don't know if that attitude of mine is helpful for you, but I got it
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> long time ago from someone very wise. If someone tells you to go play
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> the freeway, and you do it because they want you to and you want to
>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>> them happy... They don't get run over. You do. /smile/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best to you! Sooner or later, you can get to a point where you are
>>>>>>> surrounded by people who respect and support you for who you are. It
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> not always easy, though, as I also know. And it's really tough when
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> pressure is so much and you hear the same thing over and over so
>>>>>>> often
>>>>> and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> said so strongly and reinforced so heavily that you doubt yourself.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You're doing well!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tami
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 02/06/2012 01:38 PM, RJ Sandefur wrote:
>>>>>>>> I have a questions for everyone on the list. What was it that made
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> decide to get a guide dog? My Family and mobility instructor both
>>>>>>>> tell
>>>>> me
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> they do not see a need for me to have one. I live in Okeechobee
>>>>>>>> Florida.
>>>>>>>> We do not have any public transpertation. I practually have to be
>>>>>>>> driven
>>>>>>>> to church, the store etc. Others from people at church are telling
>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> stop making excuses, and get a dog, but when I tell them I am a cane
>>>>>>>> traveler, they accuse me of not trying. I tell them it is a huge
>>>>>>>> responcibility, and they tell me that it is just me making excuses.
>>>>>>>> Am
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> making excuses? I do not have the finational means in order to care
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> guide dog. I'm only just making excuses. What do you as guide dog
>>>>>>>> users
>>>>>>>> think? I would have to feed the dog, take it for check ups. It is an
>>>>>>>> animal, and it is a responcibility. RJ
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/tamara.8024%40comcast.net
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 23
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 19:42:14 -0500
>>>>>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>>>> Message-ID: <76F70DF180B8461EB814D667D8FF0C55 at yourec0540d030>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>>> reply-type=original
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How's it going with Princess anyway?
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net>
>>>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 6:09 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RJ,
>>>>>>> I got a guide dog because I was ready to take on the responsibility
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> yes
>>>>>>> it is a huge one at that. I recently (three days ago) graduated from
>>>>> Pilot
>>>>>>> Dogs with my guide and already I've had to take her to the vet. It
>>>>>>> can
>>>>> get
>>>>>>> expensive and if you do not feel like you are ready, then I think you
>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>> probably wait.
>>>>>>> Best, Hannah
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>> Of RJ Sandefur
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 1:39 PM
>>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a questions for everyone on the list. What was it that made
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> decide to get a guide dog? My Family and mobility instructor both
>>>>>>> tell
>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>> they do not see a need for me to have one. I live in Okeechobee
>>>>>>> Florida.
>>>>>>> We
>>>>>>> do not have any public transpertation. I practually have to be driven
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> church, the store etc. Others from people at church are telling me to
>>>>> stop
>>>>>>> making excuses, and get a dog, but when I tell them I am a cane
>>>>>>> traveler,
>>>>>>> they accuse me of not trying. I tell them it is a huge
>>>>>>> responcibility,
>>>>> and
>>>>>>> they tell me that it is just me making excuses. Am I making excuses?
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>> not have the finational means in order to care for a guide dog. I'm
>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>> just making excuses. What do you as guide dog users think? I would
>>>>>>> have
>>>>> to
>>>>>>> feed the dog, take it for check ups. It is an animal, and it is a
>>>>>>> responcibility. RJ _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 24
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 19:41:56 -0500
>>>>>> From: "Jessica" <anewheart0910groups at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>>>> Message-ID: <1FAE387A60FE41C59A2E51B25E5EA326 at jessicasearsPC>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>>> reply-type=original
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>> Knowing your area as good as I do I will say it is not a dog area.
>>>>>> There
>>>>> are
>>>>>> no sidewalks and no transpo. I will say a dog is a huge responsibility
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> for me it is worth it every time he gets me around things, licks my
>>>>>> hand,
>>>>> or
>>>>>> even puts his paws on me to say lets play. When I got a dog I will be
>>>>> honest
>>>>>> in saying I had no clue what I was in for. The first 6 months were
>>>>>> definitely stressful on both of us but we worked hard through and am
>>>>>> so
>>>>>> blessed to have him. Think hard about the choice and no that is not an
>>>>>> excuse you are making. Though some schools pay for some vet care most
>>>>>> require you to put it out first before getting refunded later. It is
>>>>>> all
>>>>> up
>>>>>> to you and only you know inside what is best for you. Good luck.
>>>>>> Jess
>>>>>> Jess
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 4:38 PM
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a questions for everyone on the list. What was it that made
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> decide to get a guide dog? My Family and mobility instructor both
>>>>>>> tell
>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>> they do not see a need for me to have one. I live in Okeechobee
>>>>>>> Florida.
>>>>>>> We do not have any public transpertation. I practually have to be
>>>>>>> driven
>>>>>>> to church, the store etc. Others from people at church are telling me
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> stop making excuses, and get a dog, but when I tell them I am a cane
>>>>>>> traveler, they accuse me of not trying. I tell them it is a huge
>>>>>>> responcibility, and they tell me that it is just me making excuses.
>>>>>>> Am
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> making excuses? I do not have the finational means in order to care
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> guide dog. I'm only just making excuses. What do you as guide dog
>>>>>>> users
>>>>>>> think? I would have to feed the dog, take it for check ups. It is an
>>>>>>> animal, and it is a responcibility. RJ
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>> il.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 25
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 19:49:32 -0500
>>>>>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>>>> Message-ID: <F2F9145478A64DE8B1E323FAF60F4330 at yourec0540d030>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>>> reply-type=original
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If the vet recommends it, well that's what I would do! Holly had some
>>>>>> issues when we got home but they only lasted a week or so. Also, when
>>>>>> we
>>>>> go
>>>>>> somewhere for the weekend, sometimes Holly wouldn't eat much. Se4nce
>>>>>> she
>>>>>> drinks, I don't worry about her because she scarfs when she gets home!
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net>
>>>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 6:30 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>> Flying back to California with Princess was easy; she did a fantastic
>>>>> job,
>>>>>>> and you would have thought she's done that all her life *smile*.
>>>>>>> Since we got back, Princess hasn't been eating much and I believe
>>>>>>> it's
>>>>> due
>>>>>>> to all the changes - time difference, new environment, etc. I gave
>>>>>>> her
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> couple of saltine crackers because my trainer asked me not to feed
>>>>>>> her
>>>>> the
>>>>>>> night prior to coming home, but she threw up on Friday night when we
>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>> back. I went to Petco on Saturday to get her milk bone treats and
>>>>>>> gave
>>>>> her
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> couple on that day because we had been super busy and she did well
>>>>> despite
>>>>>>> all the changes. However, on Saturday night she started having very
>>>>>>> soft
>>>>>>> stool and by yesterday, she was having diarrhea. I took her to the
>>>>>>> vet
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> morning because I got very worried.
>>>>>>> The vet said everything's ok, and that I should put her on white rice
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> boiled chicken mixed with low-fat cottage cheese for a few days
>>>>>>> because
>>>>> it
>>>>>>> will help her stool go back to normal. I feel a little hesitant about
>>>>> this
>>>>>>> because my trainers mentioned again and again that we shouldn't feed
>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>> anything besides the food they are used to having. What do you all
>>>>>>> think?
>>>>>>> Should I go ahead and give her rice with boiled chicken and cottage
>>>>> cheese
>>>>>>> or should I keep her on science diet (which is the food they have
>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>> eating)? I would love to hear feedback!
>>>>>>> Cheers, Hannah
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 26
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 16:52:12 -0800
>>>>>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net>
>>>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>>>> Message-ID: <000601cce532$baec36f0$30c4a4d0$@suddenlink.net>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, I'll start feeding her the recommended food tonight. I just
>>>>>> wanted
>>>>> to
>>>>>> know what everyone else's thoughts are on this.
>>>>>> Otherwise, Princess is doing great and continues to amaze me everyday.
>>>>> She's
>>>>>> so aadorable! *grin* :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>> Of Larry D. Keeler
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 4:50 PM
>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If the vet recommends it, well that's what I would do! Holly had some
>>>>>> issues when we got home but they only lasted a week or so. Also, when
>>>>>> we
>>>>> go
>>>>>> somewhere for the weekend, sometimes Holly wouldn't eat much. Se4nce
>>>>>> she
>>>>>> drinks, I don't worry about her because she scarfs when she gets home!
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net>
>>>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 6:30 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>> Flying back to California with Princess was easy; she did a fantastic
>>>>>>> job, and you would have thought she's done that all her life *smile*.
>>>>>>> Since we got back, Princess hasn't been eating much and I believe
>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>> due to all the changes - time difference, new environment, etc. I
>>>>>>> gave
>>>>>>> her a couple of saltine crackers because my trainer asked me not to
>>>>>>> feed her the night prior to coming home, but she threw up on Friday
>>>>>>> night when we got back. I went to Petco on Saturday to get her milk
>>>>>>> bone treats and gave her a couple on that day because we had been
>>>>>>> super busy and she did well despite all the changes. However, on
>>>>>>> Saturday night she started having very soft stool and by yesterday,
>>>>>>> she was having diarrhea. I took her to the vet this morning because I
>>>>>>> got very worried.
>>>>>>> The vet said everything's ok, and that I should put her on white rice
>>>>>>> and boiled chicken mixed with low-fat cottage cheese for a few days
>>>>>>> because it will help her stool go back to normal. I feel a little
>>>>>>> hesitant about this because my trainers mentioned again and again
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> we shouldn't feed them anything besides the food they are used to
>>>>>>> having.
>>>>>> What do you all think?
>>>>>>> Should I go ahead and give her rice with boiled chicken and cottage
>>>>>>> cheese or should I keep her on science diet (which is the food they
>>>>>>> have been eating)? I would love to hear feedback!
>>>>>>> Cheers, Hannah
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>> et
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 27
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 19:53:08 -0500
>>>>>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>>>> Message-ID: <E248AD4EC6E74C3E8CF395C5A4039FB4 at yourec0540d030>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>>> reply-type=response
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You'll know! Just don't let others tell you what you need! I have
>>>>>> seen
>>>>>> folks who think they need a dog because they're doctors tell them
>>>>>> that's
>>>>>> they should have! However, they're mobility skills are not gode and
>>>>>> some
>>>>>> don't even like dogs!
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 6:35 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here is what my mobility instructor said in his report.
>>>>>>> Preparation for guide dog - Mr. Sandefur had training to simulate use
>>>>>>> of
>>>>> a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> guide
>>>>>>> within the context of residential travel and semi-commercial travel.
>>>>>>> Mr.
>>>>>>> Sandefur
>>>>>>> found the orientation very challenging and after reflecting on his
>>>>>>> experience, he
>>>>>>> has since decided that he prefers the use of a long cane to guide dog
>>>>>>> travel.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Recommendations: Mr. Sandefur will need additional training to
>>>>>>> accomplish
>>>>>>> his goal of
>>>>>>> commercial travel. It should be noted that Mr. Sandefur has decided
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>> longer pursue
>>>>>>> his goal of guide dog preparation. Some people at church feel I gave
>>>>>>> up
>>>>> to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> soon, and that I didn't try heard enough. My family has told me not
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> apply for a guide dog because I'd just be wasting my time, but how am
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> supposed to know if I'm really ready to repsue this again in the
>>>>>>> future?
>>>>>>> My mentel health said that I have trouble ajusting to new things. RJ
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Margo and Arrow" <margo.downey at verizon.net>
>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 6:07 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Even if you're good with a cane but prefer a dog, that's fine, too.
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> was always a good cane user but prefer a dog.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> margo and Arrow
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>> Users"
>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 5:38 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> First of all, I think it is your call if you want a dog or need
>>>>>>>>> one.
>>>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>>>> you are good with a cane, then you should continue using it. If you
>>>>> want
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> a dog, you should have one. I'm not sure how the dog would make
>>>>>>>>> transportation easier unless you would feel more confident walking
>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>> you had a dog. If you believe that's true, a dog is good. Dogs are
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>> lot
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> of responsibility, but if you love dogs and feel it is worth it to
>>>>>>>>> you,
>>>>>>>>> for me it would seem you should consider getting a dog. I didn't
>>>>>>>>> catch
>>>>>>>>> how you really feel about it yourself. A lot of people think the
>>>>>>>>> dog
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> the answer for all blind people. The dog is not the answer for all
>>>>> blind
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> people. My husband doesn't use one because he says he doesn't have
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> patience and would rather use a cane. What it really boils down to
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> you need to consider the pros and cons; if you don't want a dog
>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>> don't get it. It's not an excuse and I don't know what they mean
>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>> they say you aren't trying. You aren't trying to do what?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Feb 6, 2012, at 3:38 PM, RJ Sandefur wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have a questions for everyone on the list. What was it that made
>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>> decide to get a guide dog? My Family and mobility instructor both
>>>>>>>>>> tell
>>>>>>>>>> me they do not see a need for me to have one. I live in Okeechobee
>>>>>>>>>> Florida. We do not have any public transpertation. I practually
>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> be driven to church, the store etc. Others from people at church
>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>> telling me to stop making excuses, and get a dog, but when I tell
>>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>>> I am a cane traveler, they accuse me of not trying. I tell them it
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> huge responcibility, and they tell me that it is just me making
>>>>>>>>>> excuses. Am I making excuses? I do not have the finational means
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> order to care for a guide dog. I'm only just making excuses. What
>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>> you as guide dog users think? I would have to feed the dog, take
>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> check ups. It is an animal, and it is a responcibility. RJ
>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
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>>>>>>>>>> nagdu:
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>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/cindyray%40gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>> t
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 28
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 19:55:58 -0500
>>>>>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>>>> Message-ID: <4389FF66D4F84F1090039553D1440AD9 at yourec0540d030>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>>> reply-type=original
>>>>>>
>>>>>> First thing Holly did, when we got home was run in my sons room and
>>>>>> dump!
>>>>>> No, she had been out but when we got back, it rained for 3 days and
>>>>>> I'm
>>>>> not
>>>>>> sure if she was nervous or if she just didn't feel like going out in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> rain! But, that stopped really quick!
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Jessica Pitzer" <rolosgirl at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 6:37 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I would do the chicken, it will definitely help her tummy, and in 2 or
>>>>>>> 3 days you can start slowly start mixing the science diet back in
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> the rice.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2/6/12, Hannah Chadwick <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>> Flying back to California with Princess was easy; she did a
>>>>>>>> fantastic
>>>>>>>> job,
>>>>>>>> and you would have thought she's done that all her life *smile*.
>>>>>>>> Since we got back, Princess hasn't been eating much and I believe
>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>> due
>>>>>>>> to all the changes - time difference, new environment, etc. I gave
>>>>>>>> her
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> couple of saltine crackers because my trainer asked me not to feed
>>>>>>>> her
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> night prior to coming home, but she threw up on Friday night when we
>>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>> back. I went to Petco on Saturday to get her milk bone treats and
>>>>>>>> gave
>>>>>>>> her a
>>>>>>>> couple on that day because we had been super busy and she did well
>>>>>>>> despite
>>>>>>>> all the changes. However, on Saturday night she started having very
>>>>>>>> soft
>>>>>>>> stool and by yesterday, she was having diarrhea. I took her to the
>>>>>>>> vet
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>> morning because I got very worried.
>>>>>>>> The vet said everything's ok, and that I should put her on white
>>>>>>>> rice
>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> boiled chicken mixed with low-fat cottage cheese for a few days
>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> will help her stool go back to normal. I feel a little hesitant
>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>> because my trainers mentioned again and again that we shouldn't feed
>>>>> them
>>>>>>>> anything besides the food they are used to having. What do you all
>>>>> think?
>>>>>>>> Should I go ahead and give her rice with boiled chicken and cottage
>>>>>>>> cheese
>>>>>>>> or should I keep her on science diet (which is the food they have
>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>> eating)? I would love to hear feedback!
>>>>>>>> Cheers, Hannah
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
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>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> nagdu:
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 29
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 19:58:08 -0500
>>>>>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>>>> Message-ID: <91E8F75953C443A5A0BA051DA3DE03E9 at yourec0540d030>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>>> reply-type=response
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know you bill! You got a dog just so you could have a friend that
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> have to listen to you!
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 7:04 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> hi, the only person i listened to when deciding to get a dog was me,
>>>>>>> because i'm the only one who truely knows my abilities and
>>>>>>> limitations,
>>>>>>> and i personaly have always loved all our 4 footed, feathered, finned
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> scaled friends (except for roaches, YUCK)
>>>>>>> thats my story, and i'm stick'en to it lol
>>>>>>> just make the decision on whats best for you and nobody else
>>>>>>> William And LD Lynard
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 30
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 16:58:06 -0800
>>>>>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net>
>>>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>>>> Message-ID: <000801cce533$8d9d2280$a8d76780$@suddenlink.net>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Princess loves to sniff everywhere and that's the very first thing she
>>>>>> did
>>>>>> when we got home.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>> Of Larry D. Keeler
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 4:56 PM
>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>>>>
>>>>>> First thing Holly did, when we got home was run in my sons room and
>>>>>> dump!
>>>>>> No, she had been out but when we got back, it rained for 3 days and
>>>>>> I'm
>>>>> not
>>>>>> sure if she was nervous or if she just didn't feel like going out in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> rain! But, that stopped really quick!
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Jessica Pitzer" <rolosgirl at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 6:37 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I would do the chicken, it will definitely help her tummy, and in 2 or
>>>>>>> 3 days you can start slowly start mixing the science diet back in
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>the rice.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2/6/12, Hannah Chadwick <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>> Flying back to California with Princess was easy; she did a
>>>>>>>> fantastic
>>>>>>>> job, and you would have thought she's done that all her life
>>>>>>>> *smile*.
>>>>>>>> Since we got back, Princess hasn't been eating much and I believe
>>>>>>>> it's due to all the changes - time difference, new environment, etc.
>>>>>>>> I gave her a couple of saltine crackers because my trainer asked me
>>>>>>>> not to feed her the night prior to coming home, but she threw up on
>>>>>>>> Friday night when we got back. I went to Petco on Saturday to get
>>>>>>>> her
>>>>>>>> milk bone treats and gave her a couple on that day because we had
>>>>>>>> been super busy and she did well despite all the changes. However,
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> Saturday night she started having very soft stool and by yesterday,
>>>>>>>> she was having diarrhea. I took her to the vet this morning because
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> got very worried.
>>>>>>>> The vet said everything's ok, and that I should put her on white
>>>>>>>> rice
>>>>>>>> and boiled chicken mixed with low-fat cottage cheese for a few days
>>>>>>>> because it will help her stool go back to normal. I feel a little
>>>>>>>> hesitant about this because my trainers mentioned again and again
>>>>>>>> that we shouldn't feed them anything besides the food they are used
>>>>>>>> to having. What do you all think?
>>>>>>>> Should I go ahead and give her rice with boiled chicken and cottage
>>>>>>>> cheese or should I keep her on science diet (which is the food they
>>>>>>>> have been eating)? I would love to hear feedback!
>>>>>>>> Cheers, Hannah
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>> com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>> nk.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 31
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 20:01:24 -0500
>>>>>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>>>> Message-ID: <B7B8725372124235A8F42E96C943FA01 at yourec0540d030>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>>> reply-type=response
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pilot in particular really is against people food for dogs. Partly
>>>>> because
>>>>>> some folks open that door and there dogs get to be real porkers and
>>>>> beggars!
>>>>>> Niether of those things is all that good! But, I do slide Holly an
>>>>>> occasional beef jerky, carrot or other treat about once a month. Dog
>>>>> treats
>>>>>> always and of many types!
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 7:09 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> like they told me before i brought Lynard home from Leader, just
>>>>>>> trust
>>>>>>> your vet, he/she iscloser to the situation then those at the school
>>>>>>> once
>>>>>>> you take the dog home
>>>>>>> William And LD Lynard
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 32
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 17:08:07 -0800
>>>>>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net>
>>>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>>>> Message-ID: <000a01cce534$f413f330$dc3bd990$@suddenlink.net>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah I've definitely noticed that. Do you think Princess got sick from
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> milk bones? I mean she's never had them before... the Petco grooming
>>>>>> salon
>>>>>> people seem to think it's the milk bones that made her have
>>>>>> diarrhea...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>> Of Larry D. Keeler
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 5:01 PM
>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pilot in particular really is against people food for dogs. Partly
>>>>> because
>>>>>> some folks open that door and there dogs get to be real porkers and
>>>>> beggars!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Niether of those things is all that good! But, I do slide Holly an
>>>>>> occasional beef jerky, carrot or other treat about once a month. Dog
>>>>> treats
>>>>>> always and of many types!
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 7:09 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> like they told me before i brought Lynard home from Leader, just
>>>>>>> trust
>>>>>>> your vet, he/she iscloser to the situation then those at the school
>>>>>>> once you take the dog home William And LD Lynard
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>> et
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>>>
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/sparklylicious%40suddenli
>>>>>> nk.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 33
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 20:16:13 -0500
>>>>>> From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>>>> Message-ID: <02B6FD20C6754A00BF5166F4F1621825 at hometwxakonvzn>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>>> reply-type=response
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why do the schools tell people guide dogs arn't robots? This I would
>>>>>> think
>>>>>> is a no brainer. How do you expline to a vet, about your dog? RJ
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 7:36 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In my case, I just like dogs! I find the responsibility no big deal.
>>>>>>> Well, sometimes the money is squeezed a bit! I find that I can move
>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>> faster with a dog. I already move pretty good with a cane but I can
>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>> with Holly! But, if you don't want the responsibility that could be
>>>>>>> a
>>>>> big
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> deal!
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 4:38 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I have a questions for everyone on the list. What was it that made
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>decide to get a guide dog? My Family and mobility instructor both
>>>>>>>> tell
>>>>>>>>me
>>>>>>>>they do not see a need for me to have one. I live in Okeechobee
>>>>>>>>Florida.
>>>>>>>>We do not have any public transpertation. I practually have to be
>>>>>>>>driven
>>>>>>>>to church, the store etc. Others from people at church are telling me
>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>stop making excuses, and get a dog, but when I tell them I am a cane
>>>>>>>>traveler, they accuse me of not trying. I tell them it is a huge
>>>>>>>>responcibility, and they tell me that it is just me making excuses.
>>>>>>>> Am
>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>making excuses? I do not have the finational means in order to care
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>guide dog. I'm only just making excuses. What do you as guide dog
>>>>>>>> users
>>>>>>>>think? I would have to feed the dog, take it for check ups. It is an
>>>>>>>>animal, and it is a responcibility. RJ
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>> il.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 34
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2012 19:38:58 -0600
>>>>>> From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>>>> Message-ID: <4F3080B2.5010300 at neb.rr.com>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>>>>>
>>>>>> RJ,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think it doesn't matter what I think! *smile*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Whether or not you get a guide dog is totally, completely all you.
>>>>>> You
>>>>>> are the one who is going to have to train with the dog, take care of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> dog, clean up poop and foot the bills. You are also the one who
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> be traveling with the dog. If you feel you would prefer to work a dog
>>>>>> than use a cane, then go for it. If not, just say no.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have no idea why your family or mobility instructor don't feel you
>>>>>> would benefit from a guide. That is an entirely different issue
>>>>>> though. Some family members get upset by the idea of guide dogs
>>>>>> because
>>>>>> they feel the dog will do the job they used to do. Some mobility
>>>>>> instructors feel guide dogs are only for totally blind people or blind
>>>>>> people with poor O&M. That isn't true though. I am a very good cane
>>>>>> traveler as are many of the people on this list. And I know people
>>>>>> who
>>>>>> are really not so great with a cane and do not want a dog. It really
>>>>>> comes down to personal choice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good luck with whatever you choose,
>>>>>> Julie
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/6/2012 3:38 PM, RJ Sandefur wrote:
>>>>>>> I have a questions for everyone on the list. What was it that made
>>>>>>> you decide to get a guide dog? My Family and mobility instructor
>>>>>>> both
>>>>>>> tell me they do not see a need for me to have one. I live in
>>>>>>> Okeechobee Florida. We do not have any public transpertation. I
>>>>>>> practually have to be driven to church, the store etc. Others from
>>>>>>> people at church are telling me to stop making excuses, and get a
>>>>>>> dog, but when I tell them I am a cane traveler, they accuse me of
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> trying. I tell them it is a huge responcibility, and they tell me
>>>>>>> that it is just me making excuses. Am I making excuses? I do not
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> the finational means in order to care for a guide dog. I'm only just
>>>>>>> making excuses. What do you as guide dog users think? I would have
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> feed the dog, take it for check ups. It is an animal, and it is a
>>>>>>> responcibility. RJ _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe,
>>>>>>> change your list options or get your account info for nagdu:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/julielj%40neb.rr.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 35
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 20:40:09 -0500
>>>>>> From: "loriandleo" <loriandleo at ohiohills.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>>>> Message-ID: <011101cce539$e9e50a20$2cdbe504 at o4r3f1>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Hannah,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm so glad Princess did so well on the flight home. Now as far as
>>>>> Princess
>>>>>> goes I would follow the recommendations of what your vet told you to
>>>>>> do.
>>>>>> Good luck and I hope Princess feels better soon. Take care.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lori and the Gipper
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 36
>>>>>> Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2012 01:53:58 +0000 (GMT)
>>>>>> From: t21114 at optonline.net
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>>>> Message-ID: <e651ecee2a7fb.4f308436 at optonline.net>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hi Hannah,
>>>>>> Glad you trip home with Princess was good. Just be patient with her as
>>>>>> everything is new to her and she doesn't know what's going on. New
>>>>>> place
>>>>> and
>>>>>> new people.
>>>>>> Marilyn and Anna
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: Hannah Chadwick
>>>>>> Date: Monday, February 6, 2012 7:53 pm
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>> Users'"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah, I'll start feeding her the recommended food tonight. I
>>>>>>> just wanted to
>>>>>>> know what everyone else's thoughts are on this.
>>>>>>> Otherwise, Princess is doing great and continues to amaze me
>>>>>>> everyday. She's
>>>>>>> so aadorable! *grin* :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>> On Behalf
>>>>>>> Of Larry D. Keeler
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 4:50 PM
>>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If the vet recommends it, well that's what I would do! Holly
>>>>>>> had some
>>>>>>> issues when we got home but they only lasted a week or so.
>>>>>>> Also, when we go
>>>>>>> somewhere for the weekend, sometimes Holly wouldn't eat much.
>>>>>>> Se4nce she
>>>>>>> drinks, I don't worry about her because she scarfs when she gets
>>>>>>> home!
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Hannah Chadwick"
>>>>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>> Users'"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 6:30 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > Hi all,
>>>>>>> > Flying back to California with Princess was easy; she did a
>>>>>>> fantastic
>>>>>>> > job, and you would have thought she's done that all her life
>>>>>>> *smile*.> Since we got back, Princess hasn't been eating much
>>>>>>> and I believe it's
>>>>>>> > due to all the changes - time difference, new environment,
>>>>>>> etc. I gave
>>>>>>> > her a couple of saltine crackers because my trainer asked me
>>>>>>> not to
>>>>>>> > feed her the night prior to coming home, but she threw up on
>>>>>>> Friday
>>>>>>> > night when we got back. I went to Petco on Saturday to get her
>>>>>>> milk
>>>>>>> > bone treats and gave her a couple on that day because we had
>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>> > super busy and she did well despite all the changes. However,
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> > Saturday night she started having very soft stool and by
>>>>>>> yesterday,
>>>>>>> > she was having diarrhea. I took her to the vet this morning
>>>>>>> because I
>>>>>>> > got very worried.
>>>>>>> > The vet said everything's ok, and that I should put her on
>>>>>>> white rice
>>>>>>> > and boiled chicken mixed with low-fat cottage cheese for a few
>>>>>>> days
>>>>>>> > because it will help her stool go back to normal. I feel a
>>>>>>> little
>>>>>>> > hesitant about this because my trainers mentioned again and
>>>>>>> again that
>>>>>>> > we shouldn't feed them anything besides the food they are used
>>>>>>> to having.
>>>>>>> What do you all think?
>>>>>>> > Should I go ahead and give her rice with boiled chicken and
>>>>>>> cottage
>>>>>>> > cheese or should I keep her on science diet (which is the food
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> > have been eating)? I would love to hear feedback!
>>>>>>> > Cheers, Hannah
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> > nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>> > nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account
>>>>>>> info for
>>>>>>> > nagdu:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/lkeeler%40comcast.n>
>>>>> et
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>> nk.net
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 37
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 21:07:53 -0500
>>>>>> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>>>> Message-ID: <7B2E2A14BC7048C0BA7B341D4C654721 at Babylon5>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>>> reply-type=response
>>>>>>
>>>>>> yea, but Larry, you need to remember, they got gaters in them there
>>>>>> glades
>>>>>> lol
>>>>>> William And LD Lynard
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 38
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 21:11:22 -0500
>>>>>> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>>>> Message-ID: <F0B7E49242F24C78ADBCB3D45BE332F8 at Babylon5>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>>> reply-type=response
>>>>>>
>>>>>> what a how-d-do, bet he loved that
>>>>>> William And LD Lynard
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 39
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 21:12:05 -0500
>>>>>> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>>>> Message-ID: <2A902EDA07834170B923047BF1A5148B at Babylon5>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>>> reply-type=response
>>>>>>
>>>>>> bite me lolol
>>>>>> William And LD Lynard
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 40
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 21:14:11 -0500
>>>>>> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>>>> Message-ID: <E0296F5BC609475DBB33E60BF96A4264 at Babylon5>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>>> reply-type=original
>>>>>>
>>>>>> did she ever have milk bones at the school?
>>>>>> William And LD Lynard
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 41
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 21:16:43 -0500
>>>>>> From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>>>> Message-ID: <777EA0DE56CB46B49D8106AF668A0DE9 at hometwxakonvzn>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>>> reply-type=response
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gaters love them some human, and guide dog on top of that if you're
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> carefull RJ
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 9:07 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> yea, but Larry, you need to remember, they got gaters in them there
>>>>> glades
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> lol
>>>>>>> William And LD Lynard
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>>>>
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/joltingjacksandefur%40gma
>>>>> il.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 42
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 21:20:47 -0500
>>>>>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>>>> Message-ID: <05B78F64214A4E7AB5B3C2625678BA05 at yourec0540d030>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>>> reply-type=original
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, the dog is normal! The sniffer is online!
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net>
>>>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 7:58 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Princess loves to sniff everywhere and that's the very first thing
>>>>>>> she
>>>>> did
>>>>>>> when we got home.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>> Of Larry D. Keeler
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 4:56 PM
>>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> First thing Holly did, when we got home was run in my sons room and
>>>>>>> dump!
>>>>>>> No, she had been out but when we got back, it rained for 3 days and
>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> sure if she was nervous or if she just didn't feel like going out in
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> rain! But, that stopped really quick!
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Jessica Pitzer" <rolosgirl at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 6:37 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I would do the chicken, it will definitely help her tummy, and in 2
>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>> 3 days you can start slowly start mixing the science diet back in
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>the rice.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2/6/12, Hannah Chadwick <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>> Flying back to California with Princess was easy; she did a
>>>>>>>>> fantastic
>>>>>>>>> job, and you would have thought she's done that all her life
>>>>>>>>> *smile*.
>>>>>>>>> Since we got back, Princess hasn't been eating much and I believe
>>>>>>>>> it's due to all the changes - time difference, new environment,
>>>>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>>>> I gave her a couple of saltine crackers because my trainer asked me
>>>>>>>>> not to feed her the night prior to coming home, but she threw up on
>>>>>>>>> Friday night when we got back. I went to Petco on Saturday to get
>>>>>>>>> her
>>>>>>>>> milk bone treats and gave her a couple on that day because we had
>>>>>>>>> been super busy and she did well despite all the changes. However,
>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>> Saturday night she started having very soft stool and by yesterday,
>>>>>>>>> she was having diarrhea. I took her to the vet this morning because
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> got very worried.
>>>>>>>>> The vet said everything's ok, and that I should put her on white
>>>>>>>>> rice
>>>>>>>>> and boiled chicken mixed with low-fat cottage cheese for a few days
>>>>>>>>> because it will help her stool go back to normal. I feel a little
>>>>>>>>> hesitant about this because my trainers mentioned again and again
>>>>>>>>> that we shouldn't feed them anything besides the food they are used
>>>>>>>>> to having. What do you all think?
>>>>>>>>> Should I go ahead and give her rice with boiled chicken and cottage
>>>>>>>>> cheese or should I keep her on science diet (which is the food they
>>>>>>>>> have been eating)? I would love to hear feedback!
>>>>>>>>> Cheers, Hannah
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 43
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 21:22:58 -0500
>>>>>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>>>> Message-ID: <9432D2FC6DFA426D83D7028ED48870B6 at yourec0540d030>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>>> reply-type=response
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, isn't Lynard a labragator?
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 9:07 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> yea, but Larry, you need to remember, they got gaters in them there
>>>>> glades
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> lol
>>>>>>> William And LD Lynard
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 44
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 21:23:33 -0500
>>>>>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>>>> Message-ID: <1AAD8255744E4128B5D1FB0917EABDCC at yourec0540d030>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>>> reply-type=response
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not!!
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 9:11 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> what a how-d-do, bet he loved that William And LD Lynard
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 45
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 21:24:04 -0500
>>>>>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>>>> Message-ID: <41DB924FDAAC41FEBBB3C546CB38178A at yourec0540d030>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>>> reply-type=response
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll leave that to Lynard!
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 9:12 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> bite me lolol William And LD Lynard
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 46
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 21:27:33 -0500
>>>>>> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>>>> Message-ID: <599BF7133C3E49FB834201E5005F4AF7 at Babylon5>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>>> reply-type=response
>>>>>>
>>>>>> labrigater or labricarpet depending on what time it is lol
>>>>>> William And LD Lynard
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 47
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 21:30:26 -0500
>>>>>> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>>>> Message-ID: <10485F40135247109F447BF097331A8A at Babylon5>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>>> reply-type=response
>>>>>>
>>>>>> he don't bite, he just licks and licks and licks lol
>>>>>> William And LD Lynard
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 48
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 19:58:07 -0700
>>>>>> From: "Criminal Justice Major" <orleans24 at comcast.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>>>> Message-ID: <FEFFCF640DEC457696CF8FE3C390ABB3 at bibi>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>>> reply-type=original
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi, Hannah,
>>>>>> Yes, it is all right to feed her the white rice whith boiled chicken
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> cottage cheese.
>>>>>> Dogs can eat that directly.
>>>>>> Other types of human foods they can have are Golden Delicious and
>>>>>> Granny
>>>>>> Smith's apples, fresh carrots, green beans, spinach and bananas.
>>>>>> They can also have baby snack sized carrots.
>>>>>> When dealing with the fresh carrots and green beans, peel the skin on
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> outtside off and chop them into tiny pieces.
>>>>>> If you should use canned carrots, sweet peas and green beans, open the
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> halfway to drain the preserves liquid out before giving them to her.
>>>>>> Same thing goes with canned spinach.
>>>>>> If you prefer the frozen peas and spinach, give her a very small
>>>>>> amount.
>>>>>> As for the Golden Delicious and Granny Smith's apples, just peel the
>>>>>> skin
>>>>>> off on the outtside, remove the core in the middle with the seeds and
>>>>>> chop
>>>>>> it into small pieces for her to chew on.
>>>>>> Avoid giving her red apples as they are extremely sweet and too soft
>>>>>> for
>>>>> the
>>>>>> dog to digest.
>>>>>> Bananas are also good because of the patasium, (paticium) but only if
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> vet recommends it.
>>>>>> As for the science diet, if you choose to stick with that food, be
>>>>>> very
>>>>>> careful with it as it is very rich on the dog's stomach.
>>>>>> This means that if you were to do a test with the food by soaking it
>>>>>> and
>>>>> it
>>>>>> turns into a gravy like substance, it's really rich.
>>>>>> With foods that are rich, the dog would only be able to have a half
>>>>>> cup
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> the food unless you mix it up with another dry dog food.
>>>>>> Yes, it's true depending on the trainer that trains your dog, they'll
>>>>>> tell
>>>>>> you something different, but my advice is always listen to your vet on
>>>>> what
>>>>>> they have to say.
>>>>>> They will get to know your dog more.
>>>>>> Odie has a sensitive stomach, so he can't have anything that is very
>>>>>> rich
>>>>>> where it will turn into a gravy like paste.
>>>>>> I learned the hard way as back when he was eating Blue Buffalo with
>>>>>> brown
>>>>>> rice, chicken and sweet potatoe, it tore his stomach up bad to where
>>>>>> he
>>>>> had
>>>>>> constant gas.
>>>>>> He continued to eat the food, but I had to add another dry dog food to
>>>>>> it
>>>>> so
>>>>>> he wouldn't have that awful mash potatoish stool.
>>>>>> Although I'm sure others on the list may have different views,
>>>>>> feelings
>>>>>> or
>>>>>> opinions, I still say definitely stay on top of communicating with
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> vet.
>>>>>> Yes, stress can be a major factor for when it's a new environment and
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> best you can do is give her time to adjust.
>>>>>> I've worked with guide dogs off and on for almost twelve years.
>>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>> Bibi, husband Dale and Odie
>>>>>> medical alert service dog
>>>>>> the happy spirited bounty labra wolf
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 49
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 20:07:54 -0700
>>>>>> From: "Criminal Justice Major" <orleans24 at comcast.net>
>>>>>> To: <Undisclosed-Recipient:;>
>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] My Adventure and Odie's new bone
>>>>>> Message-ID: <906BE1D47AF34A6F85FE2F2559703AA1 at bibi>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi, all,
>>>>>> Today was my adventure outtside, especially after being kept indoors
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> over seventy-two hours, three days.
>>>>>> My friend Amanda Dreher and I both left our working dogs at home and
>>>>>> took
>>>>>> the plunge upon the challenge that lie ahead of us.
>>>>>> That challenge was having to climb over big mounds of snow drifts that
>>>>> were
>>>>>> everywhere.
>>>>>> Even when I went outtside to catch the route38 bus, I had to climb
>>>>>> over
>>>>> the
>>>>>> large snow bank and stand in the gutter to wait for the bus.
>>>>>> Once the bus pulled up, I flagged the driver down to indicated I
>>>>>> wanted
>>>>> him.
>>>>>> While out and about, I bought Amanda her birthday present which was a
>>>>>> box
>>>>> of
>>>>>> chocolate Truffles from cee's Candy and then did another purchase at
>>>>> Petco.
>>>>>> I ended up buying some nature's Miracle to have around in case Odie
>>>>>> were
>>>>> to
>>>>>> have another indoor accident or get sick.
>>>>>> I ended up buying him a bone filled with peanutbutter filling on the
>>>>> inside.
>>>>>> He loves those kind of bones and enjoys licking the inside filling out
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> it.
>>>>>> It also does help keep his teeth clean, the outtside part as when he
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> chewing on it, the scraping will get the tardor off.
>>>>>> Of course, Dale and I still brush his teeth with using a small amount
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> baking soda by turning it into a paste.
>>>>>> He doesn't like that, but at least it helps prevent build up or
>>>>>> vacteria
>>>>> in
>>>>>> his mouth.
>>>>>> I usually don't buy a bone on a continuous basis, but will get Odie
>>>>>> one
>>>>> once
>>>>>> in a great while.
>>>>>> He has plenty from Dog Savvy that are organtic and a few from Petsmart
>>>>> that
>>>>>> have sweet potatoe filling on the inside.
>>>>>> Thankfully, I won't have to venture back out again until Thursday.
>>>>>> I'll admit that the February, 2012 is the worst blizard for its time
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> right now.
>>>>>> Still, I'm greatful for all of that snow to help clean the air up.
>>>>>> Bibi, husband Dale and Odie
>>>>>> medical alert service dog
>>>>>> the happy spirited bounty labra wolf
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 50
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 21:39:21 -0600
>>>>>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Update
>>>>>> Message-ID: <E84F2944-445A-4FC7-ADE4-BA68B240F218 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hmmm, that conjures up picts. But would your dog do that while in
>>>>>> harness
>>>>> at
>>>>>> the wedding? LOL.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 6, 2012, at 6:37 PM, Jessica wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi All
>>>>>>> The doggies will not be in the wedding as my dog sort of likes to
>>>>>>> hump
>>>>>>> other doggies. Gdb is going to work on this when they come to work
>>>>>>> with
>>>>> me
>>>>>>> after I get settled there and have a bit of mobility haha. I lived in
>>>>>>> Orlando for 3 years while I worked at a hotel but moved back to my
>>>>>>> home
>>>>>>> town before getting my doggie. Thanks all for the responses.
>>>>>>> Jess
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> From: "Marsha Drenth" <marsha.drenth at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 2:02 PM
>>>>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>> Users'"
>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Update
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Jessica,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you for the update. Congrats on the upcoming wedding. Since
>>>>>>>> both
>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> you have guides, will you all be having the wedding with your pups
>>>>>>>> involved?
>>>>>>>> More curious, sorry if its too personal. I am assuming your going to
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> moving to D.C., well welcome to the northeast!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am Marsha, working my 6 yo GSD from Seeing Eye. Emma and I, live
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>> PA,
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> the greater Philadelphia area, with my husband and kitty, Gracie.
>>>>>>>> Emma
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> I, are full time students at Temple University.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you need anything, please don't hesitate to ask.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Marsha, Co-Moderator
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>>> Of Jessica
>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 11:36 AM
>>>>>>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Update
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi All
>>>>>>>> As I was going through message it has been a while since I have
>>>>>>>> posted.
>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>> Jessica and have Saunders. He is a yellow lab from GDB's Oregon
>>>>>>>> campus.
>>>>>>>> He
>>>>>>>> is a cuddle bunny but then can be totally hyper. Right now am
>>>>>>>> planning
>>>>> my
>>>>>>>> wedding. I am getting married in April and my fianc?'s dog came from
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> same place but is 4 years older than mine. I am nervous because am
>>>>> moving
>>>>>>>> from a small town in Fl to Washington Dc's metro area but am excited
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> really put Mr. Saunders to work. He has done great on our visits and
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>> think he works better when he is there. He just seems to be more
>>>>>>>> focused
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> not as sniffy as when he walks down these roads at home. Hope
>>>>>>>> everyone
>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> doing well
>>>>>>>> Jessica
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 51
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 21:40:10 -0600
>>>>>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>>>> Message-ID: <0D04B330-2924-4872-AF33-DE2FE49B2331 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, I didn't want one either, but when I did decide my decision
>>>>>> wasn't
>>>>>> based on if anybody thought I needed one or not. The decision was
>>>>>> fully
>>>>>> mine, and I got it because of pain in my hands.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 6, 2012, at 6:38 PM, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cindy, before I got Holly, everyone would always ask me why I didn't
>>>>>>> get
>>>>> a
>>>>>>> dog! I just didn't want one at the time and that was all there was
>>>>>>> to
>>>>> it!
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 5:38 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> First of all, I think it is your call if you want a dog or need one.
>>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>>> you are good with a cane, then you should continue using it. If you
>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>> a dog, you should have one. I'm not sure how the dog would make
>>>>>>>> transportation easier unless you would feel more confident walking
>>>>>>>> if
>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> had a dog. If you believe that's true, a dog is good. Dogs are a lot
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> responsibility, but if you love dogs and feel it is worth it to you,
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> me it would seem you should consider getting a dog. I didn't catch
>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>> you really feel about it yourself. A lot of people think the dog is
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> answer for all blind people. The dog is not the answer for all blind
>>>>>>>> people. My husband doesn't use one because he says he doesn't have
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> patience and would rather use a cane. What it really boils down to
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> need to consider the pros and cons; if you don't want a dog then
>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>> get it. It's not an excuse and I don't know what they mean when they
>>>>>>>> say
>>>>>>>> you aren't trying. You aren't trying to do what?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Feb 6, 2012, at 3:38 PM, RJ Sandefur wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have a questions for everyone on the list. What was it that made
>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> decide to get a guide dog? My Family and mobility instructor both
>>>>>>>>> tell
>>>>>>>>> me they do not see a need for me to have one. I live in Okeechobee
>>>>>>>>> Florida. We do not have any public transpertation. I practually
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> be driven to church, the store etc. Others from people at church
>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>> telling me to stop making excuses, and get a dog, but when I tell
>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> am a cane traveler, they accuse me of not trying. I tell them it is
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> huge responcibility, and they tell me that it is just me making
>>>>> excuses.
>>>>>>>>> Am I making excuses? I do not have the finational means in order to
>>>>> care
>>>>>>>>> for a guide dog. I'm only just making excuses. What do you as guide
>>>>>>>>> dog
>>>>>>>>> users think? I would have to feed the dog, take it for check ups.
>>>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> an animal, and it is a responcibility. RJ
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
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>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 52
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 21:48:45 -0600
>>>>>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>>>> Message-ID: <F7E0678B-EB49-4AEC-B9CC-20B1E2F30D56 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Vets are familiar with guide dogs. They sometimes think they are
>>>>>> really
>>>>>> amazing; they are just well trained and some of their staff is more
>>>>>> apt
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> think that. Some people really think because the dog is a dog it
>>>>> robotically
>>>>>> does the things you want it to do, but it is still a dog.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 6, 2012, at 7:16 PM, RJ Sandefur wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why do the schools tell people guide dogs arn't robots? This I would
>>>>> think
>>>>>>> is a no brainer. How do you expline to a vet, about your dog? RJ
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry D. Keeler"
>>>>> <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 7:36 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In my case, I just like dogs! I find the responsibility no big
>>>>>>>> deal.
>>>>>>>> Well, sometimes the money is squeezed a bit! I find that I can move
>>>>> much
>>>>>>>> faster with a dog. I already move pretty good with a cane but I can
>>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>> with Holly! But, if you don't want the responsibility that could be
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> big deal!
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "RJ Sandefur"
>>>>>>>> <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 4:38 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Getting a guide dog
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have a questions for everyone on the list. What was it that made
>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> decide to get a guide dog? My Family and mobility instructor both
>>>>>>>>> tell
>>>>>>>>> me they do not see a need for me to have one. I live in Okeechobee
>>>>>>>>> Florida. We do not have any public transpertation. I practually
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> be driven to church, the store etc. Others from people at church
>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>> telling me to stop making excuses, and get a dog, but when I tell
>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> am a cane traveler, they accuse me of not trying. I tell them it is
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> huge responcibility, and they tell me that it is just me making
>>>>> excuses.
>>>>>>>>> Am I making excuses? I do not have the finational means in order to
>>>>> care
>>>>>>>>> for a guide dog. I'm only just making excuses. What do you as guide
>>>>>>>>> dog
>>>>>>>>> users think? I would have to feed the dog, take it for check ups.
>>>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> an animal, and it is a responcibility. RJ
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/lkeeler%40comcast.net
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>> il.com
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 53
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 19:51:01 -0800
>>>>>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net>
>>>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>>>> Message-ID: <001201cce54b$b5e98630$21bc9290$@suddenlink.net>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> William,
>>>>>> I don't believe she's ever had milk bones before...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>> Of William Vandervest
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 6:14 PM
>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>>>>
>>>>>> did she ever have milk bones at the school?
>>>>>> William And LD Lynard
>>>>>>
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>>>>> nagdu:
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>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/sparklylicious%40suddenli
>>>>>> nk.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 54
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 19:56:10 -0800
>>>>>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net>
>>>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>>>> Message-ID: <001401cce54c$6db42720$491c7560$@suddenlink.net>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thank you Bibi! This is definitely helpful *smile*.
>>>>>> All the best, Hannah
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>> Of Criminal Justice Major
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 6:58 PM
>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi, Hannah,
>>>>>> Yes, it is all right to feed her the white rice whith boiled chicken
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> cottage cheese.
>>>>>> Dogs can eat that directly.
>>>>>> Other types of human foods they can have are Golden Delicious and
>>>>>> Granny
>>>>>> Smith's apples, fresh carrots, green beans, spinach and bananas.
>>>>>> They can also have baby snack sized carrots.
>>>>>> When dealing with the fresh carrots and green beans, peel the skin on
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> outtside off and chop them into tiny pieces.
>>>>>> If you should use canned carrots, sweet peas and green beans, open the
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> halfway to drain the preserves liquid out before giving them to her.
>>>>>> Same thing goes with canned spinach.
>>>>>> If you prefer the frozen peas and spinach, give her a very small
>>>>>> amount.
>>>>>> As for the Golden Delicious and Granny Smith's apples, just peel the
>>>>>> skin
>>>>>> off on the outtside, remove the core in the middle with the seeds and
>>>>>> chop
>>>>>> it into small pieces for her to chew on.
>>>>>> Avoid giving her red apples as they are extremely sweet and too soft
>>>>>> for
>>>>> the
>>>>>> dog to digest.
>>>>>> Bananas are also good because of the patasium, (paticium) but only if
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> vet recommends it.
>>>>>> As for the science diet, if you choose to stick with that food, be
>>>>>> very
>>>>>> careful with it as it is very rich on the dog's stomach.
>>>>>> This means that if you were to do a test with the food by soaking it
>>>>>> and
>>>>> it
>>>>>> turns into a gravy like substance, it's really rich.
>>>>>> With foods that are rich, the dog would only be able to have a half
>>>>>> cup
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> the food unless you mix it up with another dry dog food.
>>>>>> Yes, it's true depending on the trainer that trains your dog, they'll
>>>>>> tell
>>>>>> you something different, but my advice is always listen to your vet on
>>>>> what
>>>>>> they have to say.
>>>>>> They will get to know your dog more.
>>>>>> Odie has a sensitive stomach, so he can't have anything that is very
>>>>>> rich
>>>>>> where it will turn into a gravy like paste.
>>>>>> I learned the hard way as back when he was eating Blue Buffalo with
>>>>>> brown
>>>>>> rice, chicken and sweet potatoe, it tore his stomach up bad to where
>>>>>> he
>>>>> had
>>>>>> constant gas.
>>>>>> He continued to eat the food, but I had to add another dry dog food to
>>>>>> it
>>>>> so
>>>>>> he wouldn't have that awful mash potatoish stool.
>>>>>> Although I'm sure others on the list may have different views,
>>>>>> feelings
>>>>>> or
>>>>>> opinions, I still say definitely stay on top of communicating with
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> vet.
>>>>>> Yes, stress can be a major factor for when it's a new environment and
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> best you can do is give her time to adjust.
>>>>>> I've worked with guide dogs off and on for almost twelve years.
>>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>> Bibi, husband Dale and Odie
>>>>>> medical alert service dog
>>>>>> the happy spirited bounty labra wolf
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 8
>>>>> Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 10:11:03 -0500
>>>>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] The Room
>>>>> Message-ID: <d448b253ba5360ab23593e5108635582.squirrel at mail.panix.com>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
>>>>>
>>>>> Ugh, I've been in "the room" once. I vowed never to end up there
>>>>> again.
>>>>> I've been avoiding flying as much as possible. It's become very
>>>>> unpleasant. We travellers are not valued customers; we're cattle to be
>>>>> herded about as our masters please.
>>>>> I always ask at the gate if it's the right flight, and make frequent
>>>>> use
>>>>> of the toll-free number to check flight status. I think one can get a
>>>>> text message about flight changes as well. I have heard announcements,
>>>>> but
>>>>> sometimes they're the announcement saying my flight is boarding, and I
>>>>> have to run like mad somewhere I'm not.
>>>>> I feel your pain.
>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yesterday was the first time I was subjected to the United Airlines
>>>>>> warehouse for people with disabilities in Chicago. It was humiliating
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> say the least.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, I have a question for you. If your plane departure changes gates,
>>>>>> do
>>>>>> they flash it on a screen only or do they say it. Last time I was in
>>>>>> Chicago, I went to my gate alone, but if there hadn't been a guy going
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> Des Moines on the same flight, I wouldn't have known they changed
>>>>>> gates.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 9
>>>>> Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 16:02:01 +0000
>>>>> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
>>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] dog food and Re: flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>>> Message-ID: <AAE38548E198F64B8E345439B68CCC7832F6FFFD at TSEAMB02>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>>>
>>>>> My husband almost ate the dog treats at my parents house thinking it
>>>>> was
>>>>> human beef jerky.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>> Behalf
>>>>> Of William Vandervest
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 8:33 PM
>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] dog food and Re: flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>>>
>>>>> have Carol write really big and bold print DOG TREATS, not for
>>>>> wrestler
>>>>> consumption
>>>>> William And LD Lynard
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 10
>>>>> Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 10:12:46 -0600
>>>>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] dog food and Re: flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>>> Message-ID: <FEC7EACC-E9D0-48AF-9568-66D5348861BC at gmail.com>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>>>
>>>>> Once I was working the NAGDU Table at convention and there were some
>>>>> such
>>>>> treats and a guy thought it was for people. LOL.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 8, 2012, at 10:02 AM, Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> My husband almost ate the dog treats at my parents house thinking it
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> human beef jerky.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>> Of William Vandervest
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 8:33 PM
>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] dog food and Re: flying, changes, and vet visit
>>>>>>
>>>>>> have Carol write really big and bold print DOG TREATS, not for
>>>>>> wrestler
>>>>>> consumption
>>>>>> William And LD Lynard
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>
>>> Message: 7
>>> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 16:26:24 -0800
>>> From: GARY STEEVES <rainshadowmusic at shaw.ca>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Not eating
>>> Message-ID: <fb8da20ee2099.4f43c5b0 at shaw.ca>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Mark:
>>>
>>> Way behind on my emails on this list (like 500 messages behind
>>> apparently)
>>> I
>>> think sheppards and poodles have quite a bit in common. When I first got
>>> bogart home it was hard to get him to eat, especially following the rules
>>> from the school. Sometimes, even to this day, I roll his crockets to
>>> him.
>>> He thinks it is a fun game and in a way, we are bonding by doing this.
>>> Gradually I shorten my rolls until I have them dropping right at his
>>> dish.
>>> Usually he takes over and eats from his dish.
>>>
>>> Also, scheduled feedings soon went the way of the dodo bird too. Because
>>> he
>>> wasn't eating I'd buy those sort of gross lightly cooked chicken and rice
>>> rols. Yes, he loved them and ate them immediately but they cost $7 and
>>> were
>>> only good for about 3 meals. After awhile I decided this was silly to
>>> spend
>>> so much on breakfast. Now he tends to eat after we've had our supper.
>>> Before
>>> I go to bed I put food in his dish and I often hear him eating around
>>> 4:30am. Other times He won't eat that late night feeding until supper the
>>> next day. I've onestly stopped worrying about it. Bogart was at the vet
>>> last
>>> week and is a very healthy 57 lbs and very fit. So whatever we have
>>> worked
>>> out seems to be working for him.
>>>
>>> My message is that it will all work out eventually. Unless the dog is
>>> showing other symptons of being sick, they will eat eventually.
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>> Date: Sunday, February 12, 2012 1:07 pm
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Not eating
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>
>>>> Cindy,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That is what I have been doing. I take the bole of food out of
>>>> the dog food box put it down, leave it there for 45 minutes or
>>>> so, then return it untouched to the dog food box. I only hand
>>>> fed him once because he had not eaten for 4 meals.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 3:59 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Not eating
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >I suspect you might not want to start hand feeding your dog. I
>>>> suspect it is well to leave down the food a period of time and
>>>> then put it away; then feed at the next feeding time. I have to
>>>> think eventually the dog is going to eat. Neither of my GSDs
>>>> were dogs with a huge desire to eat, though I think one started
>>>> out like she might be. Not sure about that though because I'm
>>>> old and it was a long time ago.
>>>> >
>>>> >CL
>>>> >
>>>> >On Feb 12, 2012, at 2:42 PM, Meghan Whalen wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >>I know you haven't had him long, but has he done this
>>>> before? It took four months with my second shepherd to get
>>>> her on a reliable eating schedule. It was really hard for
>>>> me, but I decided she would eat when she was hungry, so I gave
>>>> her about 20 minutes to eat, and if she didn't, tough cookies
>>>> until the next meal. If she had a completely empty
>>>> stomach, she would throw up bile, so if she missed breakfast, I
>>>> would just give her a treat around lunchtime so her stomach was
>>>> not completely empty. I gave it later in the day so that
>>>> she would not learn that not eating earned her a treat.
>>>> When we were somewhere where would have a very full/busy
>>>> schedule, like a convention or something, I would maybe crumble
>>>> a treat and mix it into her food if she did not seem interested,
>>>> but that was only when I was worried she would be working too
>>>> hard and burning too much to be held over by one treat.
>>>> This is a shepherd thing, and if you have only had him for a
>>>> short while, he could have reached a phase where he realizes
>>>> this is not short-term, and the stress of the new adjustment has
>>>> caught up with him. You could also try feeding him half as
>>>> much as he usually eats for a few meals to get him in the habit
>>>> of emptying his bowl.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>Just a few tricks/ideas that have worked for me in the
>>>> past. Of course, if you think he is sick, disregard all of
>>>> this and take him to the vet. Good luck!
>>>> >>
>>>> >>Meghan
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>On 2/12/2012 2:35 PM, Mark J. Cadigan wrote:
>>>> >>>Not eating
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>Hi,
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>My dog is being extremely picky about eating over the past 10
>>>> days or so. He has gone a few days without eating anything. He
>>>> is still drinking water, and will eat treats with no hesitation.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>As you may know, I am feeding him Taste of the Wild Dry Dog
>>>> Food, Hi Prairie Canine Formula with Roasted Bison & Venison.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>Out of desperation I tried filling his bole with some of the
>>>> remaining natural balance salmon and sweet potato, Fidelco
>>>> provided with the dog, with the same result.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>I will fill his bole with food, put it out, leave it there
>>>> for 45 minutes or so, then put it back in the food container
>>>> untouched. This will go on for 4 meals, and then I decided to
>>>> make him eat. I sat there, and fed him out of my hand for the
>>>> entire 2 cups of food. This has happened twice, in the past 10
>>>> days. One would suspect that after the 2nd day, he would be
>>>> quite hungry. I am concerned there is something more going on
>>>> hear besides him just being picky. Instead of eating, he chews
>>>> on his bone and stares at the food.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>Suggestions, comments, ideas?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>Thanks,
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>Mark
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 8
>>> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 16:26:00 -0800 (PST)
>>> From: John Vickers <guidedoguser20 at yahoo.com>
>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] update
>>> Message-ID:
>>> <1329870360.49232.yint-ygo-j2me at web124918.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
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>>>
>>>
>>> Does that meen you are getting your first Guide Dog? I can help you with
>>> any
>>> thing if you need. I'm not the smartest person; I just have my first Dog.
>>> Please feel free to call me at 817-929-5231 John Vickers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 7:50 AM PST Hannah Chadwick wrote:
>>>
>>>>Good luck :)
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>>Of Rachel Krieg
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 7:48 AM
>>>>To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;
>>>>Subject: [nagdu] update
>>>>
>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>
>>>>I have my interview with Guide Dogs of America this morning at 11 so if
>>>> you
>>>>all could keep me in your thoughts and prayers I would greatly appreciate
>>>>it. Thanks.
>>>>Rachel
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>>> Message: 9
>>> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 16:33:35 -0800 (PST)
>>> From: John Vickers <guidedoguser20 at yahoo.com>
>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] nail trimming was Worlds best pet store + dog
>>> grooming = wicked amazing!
>>> Message-ID:
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>>>
>>> I was wanting to know how long do you leav them; and how do you know when
>>> to
>>> stop cutting. John Vickers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 10:50 AM PST Hannah Chadwick wrote:
>>>
>>>>Thank you Julie. I'll definitely look in to it :)
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>>Of Julie J.
>>>>Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 9:45 AM
>>>>To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>Subject: Re: [nagdu] nail trimming was Worlds best pet store + dog
>>>> grooming
>>>>= wicked amazing!
>>>>
>>>>Hannah,
>>>>
>>>>I use two different tools, a traditional nail trimmer and the PediPaws
>>>> nail
>>>>grinder.
>>>>
>>>>First the traditional nail clippers. I've tried several
>>>>brands/quality/styles. I'd highly recommend spending the money for some
>>>>really good clippers. The cheap ones either won't work at all or will
>>>>crush and splinter the nail. I think the kind I'm using right now cost
>>>>around $15 and should last at least for the next 10 years. You can
>>>> usually
>>>>buy replacement blades for the more high quality clippers, but by the
>>>> time
>>>> I
>>>>need a replacement blade, I've forgotten what brand I have or where I got
>>>>them.
>>>>
>>>>Anyhow, the way I trim nails is to position the nail in the hole made by
>>>> the
>>>>open clipper blades. I use a finger on the tip of the nail to check how
>>>>much is poking through, which is how much will be trimmed off. I
>>>> generally
>>>>go a tiny bit at a time, preferring to make repeat cuts if necessary
>>>> rather
>>>>than risking taking off too much. I have trimmed too short before.
>>>>
>>>>The second method is some sort of grinder. Several people on this list
>>>> use
>>>>grinders. Tracy comes to mind. she has a much more powerful grinder and
>>>>can get the job done very quickly. I have the PediPaws. It
>>>>does eventually get the job done, but you have to be patient. With a
>>>>grinder you basically rub or swipe the end of the nail to take off the
>>>>desired amount of material.
>>>>
>>>>Different people prefer different methods as do the dogs. the nail
>>>> grinder
>>>>makes a bit of noise and will vibrate the nail. I used a bit of hot dog
>>>> to
>>>>get both of my dogs used to this. I don't think it's their
>>>>favorite thing in the world, but they don't fuss either. I find the
>>>>traditional clippers faster, but they require more skill and they leave
>>>>a sharp edge. Belle doesn't mind the regular clippers so much. I tend
>>>>to use them more when I can immediately take her for a walk on cement,
>>>> which
>>>>wears off the sharp edges.
>>>>
>>>>HTH
>>>>Julie
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 10
>>> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 19:04:10 -0600
>>> From: "Steven Johnson" <blinddog3 at charter.net>
>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guide Dogs for the Mind
>>> Message-ID: <005401ccf0fd$e2c53970$a84fac50$@charter.net>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>
>>> Julie,
>>> Your point is valid, but there is a continuum of where persons who are
>>> diagnosed with a form of dementia or Alzheimer's in terms of where they
>>> are
>>> in their memory. Thos with advanced are most likely not able to even
>>> being
>>> to consider such a dog, and from my experience, many times transition
>>> from
>>> their home to assisted living to a nursing home. My guess, is that this
>>> would focus on the early to medium range end of the dementia spectrum.
>>> JMO,
>>> Steve
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Julie J.
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 7:56 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guide Dogs for the Mind
>>>
>>> Okay, I'm all for any sort of service dog that can help with any sort of
>>> disabling condition. I think we've barely scratched the surface of what
>>> dogs
>>> can be taught to do.
>>>
>>> But...there is one serious concern I have with this project. If the
>>> individuals cannot remember to take their medications, how are they going
>>> to
>>> remember to give their dog, food, water, let the dog out to relieve or
>>> give
>>> the dog his medication if the need should arise?
>>>
>>> Julie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/21/2012 7:37 AM, Steven Johnson wrote:
>>>> Guide dogs for the mind: The retrievers being trained to give dementia
>>>> sufferers a new life
>>>>
>>>> By George Arbuthnott
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> First there were guide dogs for the blind, then hearing dogs for the
>>>> deaf.
>>>> Now man?s best friend could help to care for people suffering from
>>>> dementia.
>>>>
>>>> Golden retrievers and labradors are being taught to remind people to
>>>> take
>>>> their tablets, raise the alarm in an emergency, assist with undressing
>>>> and
>>>> help out around the home.
>>>>
>>>> Under the ?Dementia Dog? project the animals are trained to respond to
>>>> an
>>>> alarm that goes off whenever a person who is struggling with memory loss
>>>> needs to take medication.
>>>>
>>>> The dogs will be taught to help people undress by gently pulling on
>>>> gloves, socks and sleeves
>>>>
>>>> The dog then clenches its mouth around the medicine, stored in a
>>>> bite-proof bag, and carries it to the sufferer.
>>>>
>>>> Animals can also be taught to recognise a specific movement that their
>>>> owner would make when in distress.
>>>>
>>>> The dog would then either press an emergency button on a telephone or
>>>> bark
>>>> loudly to raise the alarm.
>>>>
>>>> And dogs can learn to open cupboards, drawers, fridges and washing
>>>> machines, flick light switches, and even help people suffering from
>>>> dementia to undress.
>>>>
>>>> Experts say the animals can be trained to carry out any task that
>>>> requires
>>>> a pulling motion. So if a short rope is attached to a cupboard door, the
>>>> dog can open it.
>>>>
>>>> When it comes to helping with undressing, the dogs are trained to pull
>>>> at
>>>> the sleeve of a coat or tug off socks.
>>>>
>>>> So far the project has been given ?52,000 of Government funding, but
>>>> needs
>>>> to raise a further ?130,000 to launch a pilot scheme later this year.
>>>>
>>>> Eventually, it is hoped the initiative will allow many more of the
>>>> 750,000
>>>> Britons who suffer from dementia to retain their independence for
>>>> longer.
>>>>
>>>> The dogs will undergo a six-month training programme using ?positive
>>>> reinforcement?, which means that whenever they complete a task
>>>> correctly,
>>>> they get a treat.
>>>>
>>>> If the scheme, developed by voluntary organisation Alzheimer Scotland,
>>>> gains funding, it will be the first time that dogs have been used to
>>>> assist those with dementia.
>>>>
>>>> A piece of string can be attached to handles so that doors and
>>>> cupboards can be opened
>>>>
>>>> The organisation?s deputy director, Joyce Gray, said: ?We are really
>>>> hopeful the dogs will not only be a huge practical help but also provide
>>>> great emotional support.
>>>>
>>>> ?People with the condition can easily become isolated and the dog will
>>>> be
>>>> a constant companion, which will help them to keep social.?
>>>>
>>>> Sufferers of early-stage dementia are now being urged to suggest other
>>>> ways the dogs could improve their lives.
>>>>
>>>> The feedback will be incorporated into the pilot scheme once the funding
>>>> is raised.
>>>>
>>>> Four students at Glasgow School of Art came up with the idea after
>>>> Alzheimer Scotland challenged the college to suggest an innovative way
>>>> to
>>>> improve the lives of dementia sufferers.
>>>>
>>>> The concept was pitched to the Design Council, which in partnership with
>>>> the Department of Health was offering funding for projects that helped
>>>> those with early-stage dementia.
>>>>
>>>> The Dementia Dogs scheme has now gained the backing of charities Dogs
>>>> For
>>>> The Disabled and Guide Dogs, which already provide dogs with similar
>>>> skills to help those with physical disabilities.
>>>>
>>>> The number of people with dementia is set to hit one million by 2021 and
>>>> 1.7?million by 2050. It is believed that six out of ten of those with
>>>> the
>>>> condition are undiagnosed.
>>>>
>>>> Sufferers of dementia and their relatives are urged to suggest ways that
>>>> dogs could help them via the website dementiadog.org.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>> Message: 11
>>> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 18:41:53 -0700
>>> From: "Rachel Krieg" <serenityangel1983 at gmail.com>
>>> To: <Undisclosed-Recipient:;>
>>> Subject: [nagdu] another update
>>> Message-ID: <27C4CB9770FB4935A60460DA71CDA1DD at yourfsyly0jtwn>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>
>>> Hi, all.
>>>
>>> My interview with GDA went okay. I haven't been accepted or denied. They
>>> need me to work on my street crossings and increasing my stamina. I am
>>> disappointed, but will do whatever it takes as I desperately want another
>>> dog.
>>> Rachel
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 12
>>> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 18:09:50 -0800
>>> From: rhonda cruz <rhondaprincess at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Not eating
>>> Message-ID: <98309B53-BD28-4A67-959D-CAA13F9558CD at gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>
>>> garry, I think you are right.
>>> smile. .
>>> On Feb 21, 2012, at 4:26 PM, GARY STEEVES wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Mark:
>>>>
>>>> Way behind on my emails on this list (like 500 messages behind
>>>> apparently)
>>>> I think sheppards and poodles have quite a bit in common. When I first
>>>> got bogart home it was hard to get him to eat, especially following the
>>>> rules from the school. Sometimes, even to this day, I roll his crockets
>>>> to him. He thinks it is a fun game and in a way, we are bonding by doing
>>>> this. Gradually I shorten my rolls until I have them dropping right at
>>>> his
>>>> dish. Usually he takes over and eats from his dish.
>>>>
>>>> Also, scheduled feedings soon went the way of the dodo bird too.
>>>> Because
>>>> he wasn't eating I'd buy those sort of gross lightly cooked chicken and
>>>> rice rols. Yes, he loved them and ate them immediately but they cost $7
>>>> and were only good for about 3 meals. After awhile I decided this was
>>>> silly to spend so much on breakfast. Now he tends to eat after we've had
>>>> our supper. Before I go to bed I put food in his dish and I often hear
>>>> him
>>>> eating around 4:30am. Other times He won't eat that late night feeding
>>>> until supper the next day. I've onestly stopped worrying about it.
>>>> Bogart
>>>> was at the vet last week and is a very healthy 57 lbs and very fit. So
>>>> whatever we have worked out seems to be working for him.
>>>>
>>>> My message is that it will all work out eventually. Unless the dog is
>>>> showing other symptons of being sick, they will eat eventually.
>>>>
>>>> Gary
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>> Date: Sunday, February 12, 2012 1:07 pm
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Not eating
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>
>>>>> Cindy,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That is what I have been doing. I take the bole of food out of
>>>>> the dog food box put it down, leave it there for 45 minutes or
>>>>> so, then return it untouched to the dog food box. I only hand
>>>>> fed him once because he had not eaten for 4 meals.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Mark
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 3:59 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Not eating
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I suspect you might not want to start hand feeding your dog. I
>>>>> suspect it is well to leave down the food a period of time and
>>>>> then put it away; then feed at the next feeding time. I have to
>>>>> think eventually the dog is going to eat. Neither of my GSDs
>>>>> were dogs with a huge desire to eat, though I think one started
>>>>> out like she might be. Not sure about that though because I'm
>>>>> old and it was a long time ago.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> CL
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 12, 2012, at 2:42 PM, Meghan Whalen wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know you haven't had him long, but has he done this
>>>>> before? It took four months with my second shepherd to get
>>>>> her on a reliable eating schedule. It was really hard for
>>>>> me, but I decided she would eat when she was hungry, so I gave
>>>>> her about 20 minutes to eat, and if she didn't, tough cookies
>>>>> until the next meal. If she had a completely empty
>>>>> stomach, she would throw up bile, so if she missed breakfast, I
>>>>> would just give her a treat around lunchtime so her stomach was
>>>>> not completely empty. I gave it later in the day so that
>>>>> she would not learn that not eating earned her a treat.
>>>>> When we were somewhere where would have a very full/busy
>>>>> schedule, like a convention or something, I would maybe crumble
>>>>> a treat and mix it into her food if she did not seem interested,
>>>>> but that was only when I was worried she would be working too
>>>>> hard and burning too much to be held over by one treat.
>>>>> This is a shepherd thing, and if you have only had him for a
>>>>> short while, he could have reached a phase where he realizes
>>>>> this is not short-term, and the stress of the new adjustment has
>>>>> caught up with him. You could also try feeding him half as
>>>>> much as he usually eats for a few meals to get him in the habit
>>>>> of emptying his bowl.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just a few tricks/ideas that have worked for me in the
>>>>> past. Of course, if you think he is sick, disregard all of
>>>>> this and take him to the vet. Good luck!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Meghan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2/12/2012 2:35 PM, Mark J. Cadigan wrote:
>>>>>>>> Not eating
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My dog is being extremely picky about eating over the past 10
>>>>> days or so. He has gone a few days without eating anything. He
>>>>> is still drinking water, and will eat treats with no hesitation.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As you may know, I am feeding him Taste of the Wild Dry Dog
>>>>> Food, Hi Prairie Canine Formula with Roasted Bison & Venison.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Out of desperation I tried filling his bole with some of the
>>>>> remaining natural balance salmon and sweet potato, Fidelco
>>>>> provided with the dog, with the same result.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I will fill his bole with food, put it out, leave it there
>>>>> for 45 minutes or so, then put it back in the food container
>>>>> untouched. This will go on for 4 meals, and then I decided to
>>>>> make him eat. I sat there, and fed him out of my hand for the
>>>>> entire 2 cups of food. This has happened twice, in the past 10
>>>>> days. One would suspect that after the 2nd day, he would be
>>>>> quite hungry. I am concerned there is something more going on
>>>>> hear besides him just being picky. Instead of eating, he chews
>>>>> on his bone and stares at the food.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Suggestions, comments, ideas?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 13
>>> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:59:14 -0800
>>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] another update
>>> Message-ID: <008f01ccf11e$bab579b0$30206d10$@gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>
>>> Rachael,
>>> Aren't you on the waiting list for Pilot? Seems like you should get in
>>> soon
>>> if you're already a graduate from there...
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Rachel Krieg
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 5:42 PM
>>> To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;
>>> Subject: [nagdu] another update
>>>
>>> Hi, all.
>>>
>>> My interview with GDA went okay. I haven't been accepted or denied. They
>>> need me to work on my street crossings and increasing my stamina. I am
>>> disappointed, but will do whatever it takes as I desperately want another
>>> dog.
>>> Rachel
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>>> Message: 14
>>> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 21:17:27 -0800
>>> From: rhonda cruz <rhondaprincess at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] another update
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>>> Hey ratchel.
>>> All the best.
>>> from rhonda.
>>> On Feb 21, 2012, at 8:59 PM, Hannah Chadwick wrote:
>>>
>>>> Rachael,
>>>> Aren't you on the waiting list for Pilot? Seems like you should get in
>>>> soon
>>>> if you're already a graduate from there...
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of Rachel Krieg
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 5:42 PM
>>>> To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] another update
>>>>
>>>> Hi, all.
>>>>
>>>> My interview with GDA went okay. I haven't been accepted or denied. They
>>>> need me to work on my street crossings and increasing my stamina. I am
>>>> disappointed, but will do whatever it takes as I desperately want
>>>> another
>>>> dog.
>>>> Rachel
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>>> Message: 15
>>> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 21:56:50 -0800
>>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>>> Message-ID: <000601ccf126$c60c5510$5224ff30$@gmail.com>
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>>> Hi all,
>>> I purchased a couple of chicken flavored nila bones for Princess from
>>> Amazon, and they arrived today. I gave her one, and she chewed it up in
>>> no
>>> time. She swallowed most of it, and I'm just wondering if this will
>>> damage
>>> her stomach? The bones itself seemed very hard to me, but she somehow
>>> managed...
>>> The other bone was given to a friend who plans to show it to the vet
>>> because
>>> she works at a vet clinic...
>>> Any thoughts?
>>> All the best, Hannah and Princess
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> Message: 16
>>> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 22:21:25 -0800
>>> From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: [nagdu] Avoiding Toy and Bone Problems
>>> Message-ID: <289F1286610947B89C5E4FA5D6ED9EF6 at stanford.edu>
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>>>
>>> A few times now, people have mentioned their dogs tearing up toys or
>>> chewing through bones at an alarming and potentially unsafe rate. My
>>> recommendation to remedy the problem is to get a goughnut. I am not
>>> trying
>>> to make a sales pitch. It has just been my experience that even the best
>>> chewers take months to finally damage the toy enough to be replaced.
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 17
>>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 03:15:49 -0800 (PST)
>>> From: John Vickers <guidedoguser20 at yahoo.com>
>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] has this happened to anyone else?
>>> Message-ID:
>>> <1329909349.60553.yint-ygo-j2me at web124906.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
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>>>
>>>
>>> She should be ok; just watch her, and make shure that she does not get
>>> sick;
>>> they are ment, for dogs; I don't think she will have a problem. John
>>> Vickers, and Marcella the GuideDog Team!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 9:56 PM PST Hannah Chadwick wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi all,
>>>>I purchased a couple of chicken flavored nila bones for Princess from
>>>>Amazon, and they arrived today. I gave her one, and she chewed it up in
>>>> no
>>>>time. She swallowed most of it, and I'm just wondering if this will
>>>> damage
>>>>her stomach? The bones itself seemed very hard to me, but she somehow
>>>>managed...
>>>>The other bone was given to a friend who plans to show it to the vet
>>>> because
>>>>she works at a vet clinic...
>>>>Any thoughts?
>>>>All the best, Hannah and Princess
>>>>
>>>>
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