[nagdu] things that go bump in the night

Nicole B. Torcolini at Home ntorcolini at wavecable.com
Mon Jan 9 17:39:36 UTC 2012


Ditto.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] things that go bump in the night


> Doug, Can you contact me offlist? I am interested in the Iphone ap for 
> picture taking and getting audio feedback.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
> Of Doug Parisian
> Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 3:56 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] things that go bump in the night
>
> Tami, take heart; the same and even more powerful vocal feedback
> applications to assist visually impaired persons correctly focus and take
> pictures are being developed under android.  I think we're on the cusp of
> affordable technologies in an easily manageable package which will help 
> with
> many tasks in addition to pictures--orientation, way finding, reading and
> accessing information, identifying colours, reading bar codes, etc.  Who'd
> have thunkit it?  And, ever under-estimate the power and yes, even 
> curative
> effects of social media.  "hey Frank, that sure looks like you who damn 
> near
> ran over that ugly blind guy with the beautiful dog."  Imagine poor frank
> hearing that similar comment through his day, not to mention the silent 
> wink
> wink nudge nudges of total strangers.  And, it does happen for less
> constructive reasons.  I'm really surprised that more blind folks with 
> this
> technology already available to them haven't made use of their tools in 
> this
> way.
>
> Doug: The face that sunk a thousand ships.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tami Kinney" <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, December 23, 2011 9:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] things that go bump in the night
>
>
>> Ah, the magic iPhone! I, too, am still longing for one, for the same
>> reason. Everyone knows a blind person can't see what's going on. But the
>> camera never lies!
>>
>> Even if the law won't go for it, there's always You Tube and quite a few
>> other nifty forums for photo, video, voice recordings... Vengeance is
>> sweet! /evil laugh/
>>
>> Tami
>>
>> On 12/23/2011 06:40 AM, Doug Parisian wrote:
>>> With all the talk about killer drivers, real imagined or other, could we
>>> not bring technology to bear to help at least trap some of the 
>>> offenders.
>>>
>>> Many cell phones, like some android offerings and the apple IPhone 4GS
>>> actually give audio prompts to help manage the camera. Yup, you guessed
>>> it; a picture is worth a thousand words. Would such photos be allowed as
>>> evidence and a means of catching the offender, let alone possibilities
>>> for use on social media. No damn, I don't have one of those awesome
>>> devices--yet!
>>>
>>> Doug: Hey driver, say cheese!
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tracy Carcione" 
>>> <carcione at access.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, December 23, 2011 7:53 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] things that go bump in the night
>>>
>>>
>>>> If a driver is zooming towards a blind person in the crosswalk, the
>>>> driver
>>>> is breaking the law. The blind person has the right of way. Not that
>>>> that matters to you, if you get hit by some jackass. I was sure
>>>> surprised
>>>> when I read New Jersey's white cane law and saw that drivers are
>>>> supposed
>>>> to yield to me and not enter the crosswalk when I'm in it. It was news
>>>> to
>>>> me.
>>>>
>>>> Tracy
>>>>
>>>>> OK, but that is what they are doing. They are not following proper
>>>>> driver
>>>>> etiquette or safety rules. They are not out to get a blind guy. I just
>>>>> think that when we start down that path, we can become too paranoid.
>>>>> There
>>>>> are plenty of other instances where people really don't care if we 
>>>>> have
>>>>> our needs met and where they truly think we are incapable and on and
>>>>> on. I
>>>>> certainly am not saying stuff like that doesn't happen; I'm just 
>>>>> saying
>>>>> that that is a rather iffy path to take saying they are out to get a
>>>>> blind
>>>>> guy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 22, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, Cindy, if a car comes roaring out while I am crossing, I kind 
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> assume they can see that I'm crossing! Especially when I hear it pull
>>>>>> out of the lot and get into the lane I'm currently occupying! If they
>>>>>> weren't triing to hit me they wer sure not following proper driver
>>>>>> edicate! They should have seen me before they pulled out and for sure
>>>>>> when they started moving down the road! They were also speeding out 
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> there!
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 4:19 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] things that go bump in the night
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How do you guys know that someone tried to hit you on purpose? What
>>>>>>> cues do you have about it? Do they hate dogs? Did you seem to look
>>>>>>> funny to them right then? How do you know these people aren't just
>>>>>>> flakes and that a sighted person equally flaky could have been
>>>>>>> walking
>>>>>>> along and almost gotten hit or, in fact did? As for people trying to
>>>>>>> drag you by the other end of your cane or the harness, that is 
>>>>>>> rather
>>>>>>> different. I actually had the harness thing happen to me the other
>>>>>>> night. I am not sure I ever had before. Another woman there was 
>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>> as offended as I was.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Dec 22, 2011, at 3:15 PM, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sounds kind of familiar! I've had folks pick my cane up off the
>>>>>>>> ground and try to tug me along, pull my dog and I away from
>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>> they thaught we'd run into and once even someone who tried to hit 
>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>> on purpose! Sure keeps you awake and alert!
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "harold leigland"
>>>>>>>> <hleigland at bresnan.net>
>>>>>>>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 1:08 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] things that go bump in the night
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> using a cane or dog has been an adventure for me; when our son was
>>>>>>>>> 4
>>>>>>>>> we were both hit and knocked down by a drunk soldier from the
>>>>>>>>> base in
>>>>>>>>> his suv not seriously injured and saved the 2 12 packs of coke I
>>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>> with us. The other day someone kept trying to back over me and
>>>>>>>>> Sam my
>>>>>>>>> guide dog in our apartment parking lot aint life grand? merry
>>>>>>>>> Christmass and better new year hal
>>>>>>>>>
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