[nagdu] things that go bump in the night

Doug Parisian eggmann at shaw.ca
Mon Jan 9 19:46:18 UTC 2012 

First, let me say I have absolutely no problems in responding to anyone off 
list.  Second, as far as IPhone IPhone use, I truly have nothing to offer, 
not yet owning this apparently awesome device but that will probably occur 
in April.

My original intent with that long ago message was so that we as dog guide 
users can have another defence tool to help with unwanted interference from 
any source with either our dogs, or ourselves.

Finally, I almost missed the request for direct correspondence with two list 
members due to the subject line not reflecting the need and/or 
question/concern.

Doug: I make this noise by rubbing my hind legs together.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] things that go bump in the night


> Doug, Can you contact me offlist? I am interested in the Iphone ap for 
> picture taking and getting audio feedback.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
> Of Doug Parisian
> Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 3:56 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] things that go bump in the night
>
> Tami, take heart; the same and even more powerful vocal feedback
> applications to assist visually impaired persons correctly focus and take
> pictures are being developed under android.  I think we're on the cusp of
> affordable technologies in an easily manageable package which will help 
> with
> many tasks in addition to pictures--orientation, way finding, reading and
> accessing information, identifying colours, reading bar codes, etc.  Who'd
> have thunkit it?  And, ever under-estimate the power and yes, even 
> curative
> effects of social media.  "hey Frank, that sure looks like you who damn 
> near
> ran over that ugly blind guy with the beautiful dog."  Imagine poor frank
> hearing that similar comment through his day, not to mention the silent 
> wink
> wink nudge nudges of total strangers.  And, it does happen for less
> constructive reasons.  I'm really surprised that more blind folks with 
> this
> technology already available to them haven't made use of their tools in 
> this
> way.
>
> Doug: The face that sunk a thousand ships.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tami Kinney" <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, December 23, 2011 9:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] things that go bump in the night
>
>
>> Ah, the magic iPhone! I, too, am still longing for one, for the same
>> reason. Everyone knows a blind person can't see what's going on. But the
>> camera never lies!
>>
>> Even if the law won't go for it, there's always You Tube and quite a few
>> other nifty forums for photo, video, voice recordings... Vengeance is
>> sweet! /evil laugh/
>>
>> Tami
>>
>> On 12/23/2011 06:40 AM, Doug Parisian wrote:
>>> With all the talk about killer drivers, real imagined or other, could we
>>> not bring technology to bear to help at least trap some of the 
>>> offenders.
>>>
>>> Many cell phones, like some android offerings and the apple IPhone 4GS
>>> actually give audio prompts to help manage the camera. Yup, you guessed
>>> it; a picture is worth a thousand words. Would such photos be allowed as
>>> evidence and a means of catching the offender, let alone possibilities
>>> for use on social media. No damn, I don't have one of those awesome
>>> devices--yet!
>>>
>>> Doug: Hey driver, say cheese!
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tracy Carcione" 
>>> <carcione at access.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, December 23, 2011 7:53 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] things that go bump in the night
>>>
>>>
>>>> If a driver is zooming towards a blind person in the crosswalk, the
>>>> driver
>>>> is breaking the law. The blind person has the right of way. Not that
>>>> that matters to you, if you get hit by some jackass. I was sure
>>>> surprised
>>>> when I read New Jersey's white cane law and saw that drivers are
>>>> supposed
>>>> to yield to me and not enter the crosswalk when I'm in it. It was news
>>>> to
>>>> me.
>>>>
>>>> Tracy
>>>>
>>>>> OK, but that is what they are doing. They are not following proper
>>>>> driver
>>>>> etiquette or safety rules. They are not out to get a blind guy. I just
>>>>> think that when we start down that path, we can become too paranoid.
>>>>> There
>>>>> are plenty of other instances where people really don't care if we 
>>>>> have
>>>>> our needs met and where they truly think we are incapable and on and
>>>>> on. I
>>>>> certainly am not saying stuff like that doesn't happen; I'm just 
>>>>> saying
>>>>> that that is a rather iffy path to take saying they are out to get a
>>>>> blind
>>>>> guy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 22, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, Cindy, if a car comes roaring out while I am crossing, I kind 
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> assume they can see that I'm crossing! Especially when I hear it pull
>>>>>> out of the lot and get into the lane I'm currently occupying! If they
>>>>>> weren't triing to hit me they wer sure not following proper driver
>>>>>> edicate! They should have seen me before they pulled out and for sure
>>>>>> when they started moving down the road! They were also speeding out 
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> there!
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 4:19 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] things that go bump in the night
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How do you guys know that someone tried to hit you on purpose? What
>>>>>>> cues do you have about it? Do they hate dogs? Did you seem to look
>>>>>>> funny to them right then? How do you know these people aren't just
>>>>>>> flakes and that a sighted person equally flaky could have been
>>>>>>> walking
>>>>>>> along and almost gotten hit or, in fact did? As for people trying to
>>>>>>> drag you by the other end of your cane or the harness, that is 
>>>>>>> rather
>>>>>>> different. I actually had the harness thing happen to me the other
>>>>>>> night. I am not sure I ever had before. Another woman there was 
>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>> as offended as I was.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Dec 22, 2011, at 3:15 PM, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sounds kind of familiar! I've had folks pick my cane up off the
>>>>>>>> ground and try to tug me along, pull my dog and I away from
>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>> they thaught we'd run into and once even someone who tried to hit 
>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>> on purpose! Sure keeps you awake and alert!
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "harold leigland"
>>>>>>>> <hleigland at bresnan.net>
>>>>>>>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 1:08 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] things that go bump in the night
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> using a cane or dog has been an adventure for me; when our son was
>>>>>>>>> 4
>>>>>>>>> we were both hit and knocked down by a drunk soldier from the
>>>>>>>>> base in
>>>>>>>>> his suv not seriously injured and saved the 2 12 packs of coke I
>>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>> with us. The other day someone kept trying to back over me and
>>>>>>>>> Sam my
>>>>>>>>> guide dog in our apartment parking lot aint life grand? merry
>>>>>>>>> Christmass and better new year hal
>>>>>>>>>
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