[nagdu] Fisher went to School

[d m gina]

here is what I do, instead of a prong collar.
I get a collar just the next size down from what the dog is wearing.
This puts the collar near the chin.
so when you need to use it you do a very gentle correction, public 
doesn't realize dog is being corrected, you keep your arm, loll and dog 
behaves.
No different than wearing a high collar under the dogs chin.
They snap to business.
Just my thoughts, got this trick from a trainer.
Original message:
> I understand the prong/pinch collars look nasty to the general observer,
> but I have actually become quite fond of them in certain situations.

> It is very easy to give a very clear and subtle correction to a dog.  I
> honestly think a correction with a prong, if done properly, is much less
> apparent to the typical observer.  I too have one on my dog most of the
> time, but the leash is usually connected to his nylon martingale
> collar.  I try to phase the prong out as quickly as possible, but that
> is more for the sake of the general public opinion than anything else.
> These collars do a nice job of simulating the feel of the mother dog
> scruffing the puppy...a perfectly natural and clear signal to the dog.

> They are not meant to be used to deliver the cranker leash corrections
> people tend to need to give with a standard chain training collar, and
> if this type of correction is given with a prong collar, the dog's
> throat can be seriously damaged.  One gentle flick of one finger is
> enough to say stay sharp kiddo.

> Every training tool has its place.  I am all for keeping the training as
> positive as possible, but I also think there are times where there need
> to be more clear consequences for unsafe behavior.

> Just my thoughts, of course, and if you had asked for them two years
> ago, they would have been entirely different.

> Meghan

> On 7/12/2012 1:25 PM, Vanessa Lowery wrote:
>> I also use the martingale collar at times.  But you are right, just 
>> putting the P-collar on is enough to straighten the dog's attitude right up.



>> Vanessa Lowery, LGSW
>> Adult and Community Services Division
>> Adult Services Screening Unit
>> 410-853-3550
>> VLowery at dhr.state.md.us


>>>>> "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com> 7/12/2012 2:21 PM >>>
>> I have a pinch on my dog; however, typically the leash is just connected to
>> a martingale collar. The presence of it alone acts as a deterrent. I only
>> clip the leash to it when the dog is acting up, and he immediately behaves.
>> I rarely if ever have to correct him with the pinch.




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