[nagdu] Introduction

Kelby Carlson kelbycarlson at gmail.com
Thu Jul 19 16:55:22 UTC 2012


GDB doesn't have a go to your place command, though they do have 
a"down-stay".  I was not encouraged to use this off-leash when I 
was in training.

Kelby



 ----- Original Message -----
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I don't think we were taught "go to your place" until maybe 1997 
or 1998.  I know neither of my first two dogs were into that 
command.  I have worked it a lot and it works.  They also gave us 
a bell to put on the dog's collar to help us hear more quickly 
when said command wasn't being followed.  This is, of course, 
helpful, since the bell is rather a raspy thing.
CL

On Jul 19, 2012, at 11:14 AM, Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC) wrote:

 Good question.
 I found it very helpful if I didn't have a defined place where I 
wanted my dogs to go.
 A down stay would have worked, except my second dog was a food 
slut.  I didn't raise her and I was never able to get her to 
chill around food.  In harness she was pretty good, out of it, 
she wasn't.

 My first dog was a silent counter surfer.

 I never learned the command "go to your place".  If I had, it 
probably would have helped if I was in a place that could have 
been defined.

 Down stay worked in some situations, not in others.  I was young 
and stupid so there were probably things I didn't do as well as I 
should have.

 I just found the ability to wrap the dog's leash around 
something heavy very very useful if I was in a situation that 
required both hands where monitoring them would be difficult.  
The laundry room in college comes right to mind.  Monitoring by 
listening was difficult with several washers going.



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On Behalf Of Julie J.
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 Why is anchoring the dog an essential skill?  Is something like 
a "go to
 your mat/place" or a "down stay/rest" not an alternative?

 I've never used tie down with my dogs except for about three 
days to try
 it out at night and decide that it doesn't work for me.   If I'm 
not
 holding the other end of the leash, they are taken off the leash 
or it
 is left loose.  Monty is expected to stay where I tell him to 
stay.  If
 I don't expect that he will be able to do that, I put him in a 
situation
 where he will be successful, crate, leashed to me or a different 
place
 where he can down stay.

 I have no idea why I don't like tie downs.  Perhaps it's what 
you are
 used to.  I don't know.

 Julie


 On 7/19/2012 8:12 AM, Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC) wrote:
 Also, assuming your dog isn't going to chew through the leash, 
you can anchor him or her to the couch or a chair or someplace 
where the dog can see you while in the kitchen.
 Knowing how to anchor your dog is an essential skill.

 -----Original Message-----
 From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
On Behalf Of Lyn Gwizdak
 Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 12:40 PM
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 I'd agree.  Actually, it is UNSAFE to have a dog underfoot in 
the kitchen
 while meals are being prepared.  the dog could be fallen over 
while you have
 a pot of something hot in your hands - and well, you get where 
this goes!

 My dogs are allowed in my kitchen only for his mealtime and 
water which I
 take care of before I make anything for us in there.  I have a 
real small
 kitchen with a serve-through window and Landon can see me from 
his bed in
 the living room.  This is where the "Go to your place" command 
comes in
 handy or whatever command for the same thing other schools use.  
Landon is
 from The Seeing Eye.

 Lyn and Landon
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 If you feel best keeping your dog on tie down when you are 
preparing your
 meals, you should.  It isn't convenient to haul the dog around 
with you if
 you are preparing meals, assuming that that you are keeping the 
dog on a
 leash.


 On Jul 16, 2012, at 5:15 PM, Kelby Carlson wrote:

 Thank you all very much for your introductions! I do have 
another
 question that's sort of random (and not really essential, just 
something
 I'm curious about.) My bedroom isn't terribly close to the 
kitchen, and I
 make a good deal of my own meals.  Is it better when I'm eating 
by myself
 to keep my dog on tie-down? It's more convenient for me in a 
logistical
 stense as I need two hands to do a lot of things and he doesn't 
seem to
 mind.  Thoughts?

 Kelby



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 Date sent: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 14:47:52 -0700
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 hi i wish you.  and elvice.  a lot of luck.  in school.
 it is nice to meet you.
 i'm rhonda, and i have  my first pilot dog.  her name is Mya.
 she is a german sheppard.

 she is five years old.

 nice to meet you.
 from rhonda.
 On Jul 16, 2012, at 2:32 PM, Shannon Wells wrote:

 Kelby, welcome to the list and congrats to you and Elvis.  You 
might try
 giving your dog ice to eat and staying in the shade.  I had a 
friend who
 actually had her golden retriever clipped.  The dog sure did 
feel
 strange, but she was a lot cooler.
 Shannon Wells
 On Jul 16, 2012, at 4:12 PM, Kelby Carlson wrote:

 Hello, everybody!

 I am a newly graduated guide dog user from Guide Dogs for the 
Blind
 (Oregon Campus.) I have a beautiful yellow lab named Elvis, and 
I will be
 taking him back to college with me in several weeks.  I hope 
that this
 list will be a good place to discuss guide dog use, training, 
and care.

 I do have a question, and it may be a silly one.  Does any"one 
have
 suggestions about how to help a dog acclimate to a warmer 
climate? Oregon
 is significantly cooler than where I live in the summer and I 
don't want
 to overstress my dog.  The school gave me a set amount of water 
(3 cups)
 to offer Elvis at each watering.  Is giving more water ever 
advisable in
 this situation? Thanks!

 Kelby S.  Carlson

 Vanderbilt University


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