[nagdu] Advance Notification

Wmodnl wmodnl at hotmail.com
Tue Mar 27 16:52:15 UTC 2012


Good afternoon all,
I have actually found it easier to go to places like Costco or BJS without my guide.  The times when I have had my guide, there was never an issue.  In fact, People went about there business or I was asked: so, getting that big bad of dog food?  You know we have something for your guide...  Maybe my issues (or lack there of) is because I shopped at these locations in the NYC Metro area.  The stores isles are exceptionally large and wide.  One never has to be concerned about being "in the way."  This is unlike the small stores I have been in.  What is the real issue?  Does this chain have a policy regarding I.D cards for guide users?  I am not going to name where I got my guide from; however, I remember in training I was told to always carry your ID to present it if asked.  The ID clearly states that the dogs are permitted in all public venues.  Have a great afternoon.

William O'Donnell, distributor
Organo Gold Enterprises, INC.
www.willsholistics.organogold.com
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On Mar 27, 2012, at 10:07 AM, "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com> wrote:

> I understand what everybody is saying. And, I agree with it.
> Here is my question.  I go to Costco because I need or want something. Let's assume it's a need. One of the things Costco sells is diapers and formula. They sell them cheaply and of course they sell in bulk.  So, let's say I need diapers and formula (and believe me that stuff is expensive at say Giant or Safeway).  I go to Costco and somebody wants me to show ID.  I normally need to have someone drive me to Costco, partly because it isn't walkable, and partly because once I buy what I need, I have to haul all that stuff home.  So, I've gone to a bit of trouble and usually expense to make this trip happen which is fine, but does mean that I really do intend to walk out with my intended purchases.  So, the store asks for ID, and I call the police. If they decide they don't care (I did have this happen once) what exactly will my NFB state president do? Fine that he or she can resolve the issue in time, but I'm here now, I need to buy what I need to buy, and ona higher level, while I care about the next person, I also need to think of myself.
> 
> Using my example, why should I follow NFB's guidelines when the only bennifit is the greater good?
> Why do I need to be a test case for this?
> 
> Why isn't NFB making what Costco is doing a criminal offense, or pushing so that if somebody does ask for ID, they risk loosing their job.
> 
> Not everybody can or wants to be a precident setter.  For me, this is more practical then emotional, we only have one Costco, it's close to my house, and I shop there because they have stuff I need and or want at prices I like. Suggesting that I can just shop elsewhere while this gets resolved isn't practical
> 
> Telling me what I should do when you (and I don't mean the below poster) won't be there to assist on a practical and real time level does me no good at all.
> I could argue that NFB has the resources both legally and person-wise to fix this issue without the expectation that I should screw up both my short term and long-term plans as well as my pocketbook.
> 
> Anybody else have the same issue with NFB's direction?
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of cheryl echevarria
> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 9:27 AM
> To: nagdu
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Advance Notification
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> 
> I am in agreement with what President Gwizdala has said, being in situations recently where the places such as costco has asked for paper work or id card was just wrong, but the fact that people in the area are doing it, whether they are bullied into it or not shouldn't make a difference.
> You need to think of the next person that comes after you, you are setting the example, be correct, be polite, but most of all, know what you are talking about, if the stores are doing the or location, just call the police, if that doesn't work, call one of us either your state president of your local chapter of NAGDU, or President Gwizdala.
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