[nagdu] Advance Notification

[Julie J.]

None and that makes perfect sense to you and me, but...is that the way a 
judge would see it?  Is the asking for ID actually a violation of the 
ADA or is it only the making that a requirement for access that is a 
civil rights violation?

I used to read laws and think, "oh that makes sense.  I understand 
that."  Then I started working with lawyers and legal issues and WOW 
things just aren't all that clear to me anymore.

Julie




On 3/29/2012 7:40 AM, Marion Gwizdala wrote:
> Julie,
>    I guess my question would be, "Why am I being asked for 
> identification, if not as a precondition to access?" My assumption 
> would be that the request to produce identification prior to entering 
> a place is for the purpose of determining whether or not the dog is a 
> service dog. What other reason would there ve for asking for 
> documentation?
>
>
> Marion
>
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
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>> Cindy,
>>
>> That's where I'm not sure.  I don't think it's illegal for them to 
>> ask for the ID, only to make the showing of the ID a condition of 
>> entering the store.  It's a fine line and I suppose it could be 
>> argued that by asking for it, it is presumed that is a condition of 
>> access.  However what seems logical and what flies in court are often 
>> not the same. *smile*
>>
>> Still in the end in the example scenario given by Rebeka the person 
>> would still be going in the store, so no access denial took place.  
>> To my way of thinking no access denial means no legal case.  But even 
>> without a solid legal case much can still be done through advocates, 
>> letters, the media and other resources.
>>
>> Julie
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/28/2012 3:49 PM, Cindy Ray wrote:
>>> But it is illegal for them to ask for the ID, but you show it to get 
>>> into the store, demanding a play by play, and then you involve the 
>>> law. Of course, if you got access to the store, that takes the teeth 
>>> out of it, to my way of thinking on it, and then nobody cares that 
>>> you were required to show your ID illegally. Not sure.
>>>
>>> Cindy
>>>
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