[nagdu] Advance Notification

[Cindy Ray]

No, it wasn't, and I think essentially we are talking about the same thing, but I can't find it right now. I mean I'm not talking about ADA.

Cindy

On Mar 29, 2012, at 3:31 PM, Ann Edie wrote:

> What ruling are you referring to?  If it is the ADA regulations, then it is
> irrelevent to the discussion of airline procedures, which, again, are not
> governed by the ADA, but by the ACAA, which still allows miniature horses
> and some other animals as service animals on an equal basis with dogs.
> 
> Best,
> Ann
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> Of Cindy Ray
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> Well, that ruling says "In some cases, horses" and so that is partly because
> of the relative newness of the animal being used. I think they really
> shouldn't have been asking her. Routinely I am not asked for ID at airports
> on the dog. I think I have been sued twice--once in Atlanta and once in
> Louisville. And I do Louisville a lot.
> 
> On Mar 29, 2012, at 9:35 AM, Ann Edie wrote:
> 
>> I'm not sure whether they technically can or cannot ask for 
>> identification or other proof that the animal is a service animal.  My 
>> reading of the ACAA regulations is that, if the animal has equipment 
>> that is generally associated with service animals, or if the animal is 
>> obviously carrying out the functions generally associated with a 
>> service animal, or if they ask the person who is accompanied by the 
>> animal if it is a service animal and they receive a response which 
>> seems to confirm this fact, then they don't need to ask for further 
>> proof.  But if they still have doubts, then they can ask for more 
>> proof that the animal is a service animal.  So they probably shouldn't 
>> ask you for proof that your dog is a guide dog if it is in harness and 
>> actively guiding you.  But I don't think they would get in any sort of 
>> trouble if they did ask for further proof.  I don't think that is 
>> expressly prohibited by the law or regulations.  I may be wrong about 
>> this.  But recently I heard that a guide horse handler was asked for 
>> ID for the service animal as a condition for boarding the aircraft 
>> with her guide horse, which was in harness and guiding her at the 
>> time, and clearly identifiable as a guide horse.  So it seems that they
> are routinely asking for the "proof", even though the so-called
> certification is totally worthless.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Ann
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Cindy Ray
>> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 3:57 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Advance Notification
>> 
>> No no. You aren't understanding what the deal was. I had ID; legal ID 
>> is a nondriver's license or a driver's license; but it is a state ID. 
>> They also asked to see the ID that shows the dog is a service animal. 
>> I think they cannot do that. I had valid ID and that was my state ID.
>> 
>> Cindy
>> 
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