[nagdu] conventions was Diabetic alert dogs and how alert dogs arepreventing aneed for a guide dog!

Sat Nov 10 23:09:48 UTC 2012

Hello Julie!

I am very happy and interested to read  all the letters in different
e-mailing lists to where I have subscribed myself into. 
In Estonia there are allso some organisations,  whos main goal is to
protect and represent vision impaired people in different levels. But it is
very  different here. For example we have only 35 to 40 guide dog users in
Estonia and only half of them are very active on using their dogs.  I am a
board member of  the biggest regional organisation in Estonia, what is
called NGO North-Estonian Association of the Blind. We have about 650
members. Most of them are     elderly. But we dont have these kind of
meetings, what are few   days long. 
Allso when I visited USA last spring then I gound out that you have
different support groups there and stuff like I can only dream what we will
have one day here.
Representation of blind people is quite   weak on coverment level but it is
getting better... Hopefully... Some day...
Why I am reading and being so exited about  things what you have is that I
am  thinking of writing my bachelours theses about laws what are regulating
guide dog users obligations and rights in estonia and compare them with
countries what are more developed at that issue.
Allso I havent killed my  idea to do some voluntary months in USA. Adn
beacuse I love challanges then maybe there will be a opportunity  to make  a
project of somekind with new interesting people.  

Tervitades / With greetings
Christel Sogenbits
GSM: +372 58 440 521
E-mail: christel.chrissu at gmail.com
Skype: christel.chrissu

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Julie J.
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2012 3:55 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] conventions was Diabetic alert dogs and how alert dogs
arepreventing aneed for a guide dog!

christel,

Yes the conventions are gatherings of mostly blind people to discuss the
latest news, legal issues, programs, services and other plans related to
blindness.  Specifically the conventions that people are talking about here
are National Federation of the blind conventions.  Each state has an
affiliate and a short 2-3 day convention, usually in the spring or fall.
Then in the summer right around the 4th of July there is a national
convention.

This email list is associated with the National Federation of the Blind's
(NFB) guide dog division the National Association of Guide Dog 
Users. or NAGDU for short.   Within the NFB there are many of these 
sorts of special interest groups.

I'm not sure if there are organizations in other countries with similar
philosophies.  I think Canada does, maybe?  I would be interested to know if
you have a group of organized blind people  in your country working together
to improve the lives of all blind people.

Julie

On 11/9/2012 8:59 PM, Christel Sogenbits wrote:
> Sorry for the stupid  question, but  what are these conventions what 
> are mentioned in different letters?
> Have I understand right that these are like big meetings about 
> different subjects?
> Sorry for stupid question from small Estonia...
> *She is not just a dog, She is The Dog and my best friend* Christel 
> and Roosi
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lyn Gwizdak
> Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2012 12:27 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Diabetic alert dogs and how alert dogs 
> arepreventing aneed for a guide dog!
>
> Hi Sheila,
> Wow! I don't know what you are talking about since the thread isn't there.
> (grin) I'm not being snarky, I really don't know what you are 
> referring to - me judging and stuff.  Maybe it was someone else?
>
> I don't have a problem if stuff happens and the dogs get up on the 
> wrong side of the dog bed.  If people correct the dogs, hey, no 
> problem.  I DO have a problem if a person fails to correct their dog 
> time after time.  I've gone to many conventions and see the 
> occassional spat between dogs.  It happens.  The dogs are under stress 
> at thesse things.  Hey, if Landon gets too intimate with another dog 
> and that dog objects, well, I tell Landon to mind his business and served
him right. LOL!
>
> These dogs of ours are dogs first, guides second and they will act 
> like dogs.  but we all have to do our best to keep them under control 
> and i do think most folks do this and most dogs are cool.
>
> In my posts, I talked about service dogs and about vests and stuff.  
> If you and yoour friend's dogs behaved, no problem.  I just don't 
> understand the thread about this St. Bernard dog at a conference or 
> meeting and growling took place.  You didn't do anythiing.  I try not 
> to judge folks - notice try.  I'm human - LOL.  The thread seemeed to 
> morph into a discussion about emotional support dogs without vests and 
> not well behaved and that is what I have posted about.  No worries.
>
> BTW, I was at our CCB convention this past weekend and hardly saw many 
> dogs
> - it was the smallest convention I ever attended.  All the dogs were 
> nice and I didn't hear any spats.
>
> Lyn and Landon
> "Education creates tolerance towards diversity."
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sheila Leigland"<sleigland at bresnan.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 3:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Diabetic alert dogs and how alert dogs 
> arepreventing aneed for a guide dog!
>
>
>> Lyn my husband and I were at the convention last weekend. Our dogs 
>> misbehaved and growled and were immediately corrected. I would agree 
>> with you if we chose not to bring our dogs under control but we did 
>> and it didn't happen again. When you know all of the facts then 
>> please make judgment calls on whether a dog should remain in a 
>> situation. I don't know of any dog that hasn't made a misstep and the 
>> important thing is that the dogs were corrected properly and 
>> immediately. In fact they were still lying at our feet. They didn't 
>> stand up or approach
> in any way.
>> Sheila Leigland
>>
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