[nagdu] Veterinary assistance

[Eve Sanchez]

Makes sense to me. I mean, I can't imagine leaving Taylor home for
very long at all if I even must. I would sure rather not. Well, I hope
you had fun. I myself, would absoluetly love to go to the real thing.
Elton is one on my lists of 'really want to see's. Eve

On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Lyn Gwizdak <linda.gwizdak at cox.net> wrote:
> Yes, I took Landon to the concert and my friend took her dog as wwell.  TheyI would sure rather not.
> did very well and not a peep from either of them!  It was our Gay Men's
> Chorus doing Elton John music and it was the next best thing to going to an
> actual Elton John concert - cheaper!  The Chorus is excellent and I really
> enjoy them.
>
> When I was pruchasing the tickets on the Gay Men's Chorus website, they had
> a seating chart of the North Park Theatre and I selected seats where I
> thought would provide the most room for the dogs and they worked out well
> for us.  As that theatre is in my neighbothood, I sometimes go to it without
> my dog.  there's isn't much room between the rows of seats.  I sit way up
> front when there is free seating there such as for the LGBT film festival or
> a community meeting held there.  So, I either bring Landon or the long,
> white skinny dog - LOL!
>
> I brought Landon to the concert because we were going out to eat afterwards
> and I didn't want to make him stay home alone too long.  I don't go to
> obnoxiously loud concerts either.  He's gone with me to the San diego Summer
> Pops and the holiday Pops concert around Christmas time and he does very
> well.  He does an excellent job of working me through crowds in theatres as
> well as at street fairs.  He's a good dog!
>
> Take care,
>
>
> Lyn and Landon
> "Asking who's the man and who's the woman in an LGBT relationship is like
> asking which chopstick is the fork" - Unknown
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eve Sanchez" <celticyaya at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2013 10:19 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Veterinary assistance
>
>
>> Are you taking Landon to the concert? Just wondering how that works. Eve
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Lyn Gwizdak <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Eve,
>>> GDB is Guide Dogs for the Blind in San Rafael CA and Boring, OR - they
>>> are
>>> the only U.S. school with two campuses.  Guiding Eyes in Yorktown
>>> Heights,
>>> NY also has some assistance for their graduates.  I think they help with
>>> vet
>>> bills and they supply the flea preventative.  Seeing Eye does not.  TSE
>>> gives their graduates a six-month supply of the flea preventitive and
>>> that's
>>> it.  This is given when you are first going home with a new dog.
>>>
>>> Actually, I thought the discussion on the philosophy was good and I
>>> didn't
>>> see any bashing or dissing others opinion.  But, I think everyone had his
>>> or
>>> her say on this topic and it was good.
>>>
>>> You take care and have a good day.  My sister and I are taking some
>>> friends
>>> to a concert today and I'm looking forward to it!
>>>
>>>
>>> Lyn and Landon
>>> "Asking who's the man and who's the woman in an LGBT relationship is like
>>> asking which chopstick is the fork" - Unknown
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eve Sanchez" <celticyaya at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 8:28 PM
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Veterinary assistance
>>>
>>>
>>>> Just to let youall know, my above post was actually sent about 4 posts
>>>> ago. I would not have added it here and do agree that this line has
>>>> gotten out of hand. I was just curious as to which schools provide
>>>> assistance and have so far heard repeatedly that GDB (who ever that
>>>> is)does and know that Pilot does and maybe Seeing Eye. If there is no
>>>> more information, I agree. I think the philosophical discussions, like
>>>> this has turned into, just cause hard feelings by those who disagree
>>>> and I really want us all to get along so that we could learn from each
>>>> other. Let's change the subject now. My dog's poop problem has gotten
>>>> much better. Thank you, Eve
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 8:15 PM, Eve Sanchez <celticyaya at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> and who knows what the long term abilities are? I was set for life
>>>>> with a professional license and a high paying career and then boom, I
>>>>> had medical issues that ended my work career. No one knows what life
>>>>> is going to deal unless you spend every spare moment with the tarot
>>>>> deck and scrying mirror, and even that is up for change due to
>>>>> circumstances and choice.  Just saying. Eve
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Lyn Gwizdak <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know a graduate of GDB whose dog had severe allergies that required
>>>>>> shots
>>>>>> every two weeks.  GDB did pay this expense.  In favor of the vet
>>>>>> stipend,
>>>>>> having this enabled the friend to keep working her dog and she had the
>>>>>> dog
>>>>>> for many years.  Me having a dog from another school, if faced with
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> same issue, i would have to retire the dog and get a new one because i
>>>>>> could
>>>>>> no way in hell pay the cost of allergy shots and the vet
>>>>>> dermitologist.
>>>>>> Having a dog that is high maintainance and cost is impossible when the
>>>>>> school does not help with the expense and you don't have alot of money
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> have enouogh for regular care.  Fortunately, I have not had to deal
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> this issue - yet.  Landon does get some skin itchies during the summer
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> we can deal with that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lyn and Landon
>>>>>> "Asking who's the man and who's the woman in an LGBT relationship is
>>>>>> like
>>>>>> asking which chopstick is the fork" - Unknown
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Juanita Herrera"
>>>>>> <juanitaherrera1991 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 12:44 PM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Veterinary assistance
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Margo, GDB offers veterinary assistance to all their graduates if
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> request it. Tracy, as far as I know they offer $250 for a regular
>>>>>>> health
>>>>>>> check And to pay for flea preventative and heartworm preventative.
>>>>>>> Now,
>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>> any emergencies were to occur they're usually willing to pay for that
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>> Juanita Herrera
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Apr 12, 2013, at 11:26 AM, "Margo and Arrow"
>>>>>>> <margo.downey at verizon.net>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, Seeing eye has always granted ownership.  Even though we own
>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>> dogs
>>>>>>>> when we leave the school as it's always been, Seeing Eye used to pay
>>>>>>>> major
>>>>>>>> expenses the first year and then you could get a loan if need be
>>>>>>>> after
>>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>>> Now, I think they give a stipend either just the first year or every
>>>>>>>> year
>>>>>>>> and I think they may still have the loan program.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> GDB I believe used to say that people who owned their dogs wouldn't
>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>> help
>>>>>>>> from them--someone correct me if I'm wrong.  Anyway, they give some
>>>>>>>> sort
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> vet assistance now.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Margo and Arrow
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steven
>>>>>>>> Johnson
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 1:10 PM
>>>>>>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>> Users'
>>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Veterinary assistance
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Eve,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Veterinary assistance is an interesting subject as I wonder how many
>>>>>>>> feel
>>>>>>>> that if one is not able to take care of a dog, then why even bother
>>>>>>>> getting
>>>>>>>> one?  Kind of a like a car, a home, or any other type of property.
>>>>>>>> In
>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>> bias opinion, it is the responsibility of the individual, not the
>>>>>>>> training
>>>>>>>> program to care for the dog.  If a training program grants ownership
>>>>>>>> upon
>>>>>>>> graduation, then by all means, it is that handlers responsibility,
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> should be a term in the final ownership contract.  If the training
>>>>>>>> program
>>>>>>>> does not provide ownership until after 1, 2 or however many years,
>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>> yes,
>>>>>>>> subsidizing that cost may indeed be a part of the training programs
>>>>>>>> responsibility with the caveat that after ownership is granted, it
>>>>>>>> becomes
>>>>>>>> their baby to take care of and care for.  I would be interested in
>>>>>>>> hearing
>>>>>>>> what others have to say, as any of us who have a guide realize that
>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>> are costs involved, and sometimes, significant costs especially if
>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>> catastrophic or emergent occurs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Eve
>>>>>>>> Sanchez
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 10:51 AM
>>>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] A cane user interested in a dog guide
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just curious. Reading all the posts, there is a lot of mention of
>>>>>>>> veternarian assistance. I am wondering if all the schools provide
>>>>>>>> assitance
>>>>>>>> of some type. I heard specifically that GDA does and I know that
>>>>>>>> Pilot
>>>>>>>> does.
>>>>>>>> What of the others? As I said, just curious. Eve
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 8:46 AM, Eve Sanchez <celticyaya at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Oh I knew I would get it for that. It's just a personal prejudice I
>>>>>>>>> guess. I wont own one. Never have. Well, I actualy have owned two
>>>>>>>>> dogs
>>>>>>>>> that were each one quarter lab, but I didnt admit it often. Cant
>>>>>>>>> really say as to why. Just experiences I have had I guess and dont
>>>>>>>>> bother trying to change my mind. No one can. I have a golden
>>>>>>>>> retriever
>>>>>>>>> right now. My last dog was a german shepherd. I know that not all
>>>>>>>>> dogs
>>>>>>>>> in a breed are alike, but I cant get over my prejudice I guess. I
>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>> know that for some reason I could tolerate yellows much better than
>>>>>>>>> blacks so I am wondering if it might be a childhood thing.  Never
>>>>>>>>> really thought about chocolates one way or another.  Well, sorry,
>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>> that's how I feel. ;X Eve    Oh and I know it is not black dogs in
>>>>>>>>> particular that I do not like. We had a black pitbull once that was
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> sweetheart. Her name was Loca and she thought she was a chihuahua.
>>>>>>>>> Again, sorry.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Lyn Gwizdak
>>>>>>>>> <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Eve,
>>>>>>>>>> What kind of dog do you have?  What do you not like about Labs? I
>>>>>>>>>> like to hear why people like certain breeds or why they dislike
>>>>>>>>>> certain breeds. Many schools are using Lab/Golden crosses now.
>>>>>>>>>> Landon is one and he matches my red hair - and he has more grey
>>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> have! LOL!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Lyn and Landon
>>>>>>>>>> "Asking who's the man and who's the woman in an LGBT relationship
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> like asking which chopstick is the fork" - Unknown
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eve Sanchez"
>>>>>>>>>> <celticyaya at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>>>> Users"
>>>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 2:53 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] A cane user interested in a dog guide
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I myself would not worry about the location unless you want your
>>>>>>>>>>> training to double as a vacation. haha  I believe all schools
>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>> take you no matter where you are with maybe a couple of
>>>>>>>>>>> exceptions
>>>>>>>>>>> like one in NY and one in Texas. I myself chose based on multiple
>>>>>>>>>>> things. The breeds available, the amount and type of training
>>>>>>>>>>> avalable and yes, assitance and support afterwards. Ideally I
>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>> have gone to San Rafael as I am from Northern Cal originally and
>>>>>>>>>>> still have family right there, but I did not under any
>>>>>>>>>>> cercumstance
>>>>>>>>>>> want a labrador (no offense people). The school I chose have a
>>>>>>>>>>> variety of breeds, yes including poodles for the allergic. They
>>>>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>>>>> have Dobermans, shepherds, boxers, labs, goldens, and vizlas. I
>>>>>>>>>>> probably spelled that last one wrong. Once in a while they have
>>>>>>>>>>> crosses like labradoodles. Most are bred for the program and some
>>>>>>>>>>> are donations by breeders they work with. All are screened for
>>>>>>>>>>> suitability. The training process is there at the facility as I
>>>>>>>>>>> would have been very uncomfortable doing it at my home. Just me,
>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>> as I was also in process of moving it made sense. Look at all the
>>>>>>>>>>> schools online, call and talk to their staff, and make your own
>>>>>>>>>>> decision. I could tell you that my school is best, but it may not
>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>> best for you. Either way, be prepared, there will be people found
>>>>>>>>>>> who could tell you what is wrong with each school. Again, judge
>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> yourself. I am also thinking you are not even sure at this point
>>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>> a dog is right for you. For this I will tell you the same thing.
>>>>>>>>>>> When I struggled with this, I had some very opinionated people
>>>>>>>>>>> tell
>>>>>>>>>>> me why I should not get a dog. I also had sympathetic wusses tell
>>>>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>>>>> it would be wonderful for me to be taken care of. What finally
>>>>>>>>>>> helped me decide was an incident in which I was left alone in a
>>>>>>>>>>> park
>>>>>>>>>>> and had no idea where I was. I realized at that moment that,
>>>>>>>>>>> though
>>>>>>>>>>> a cane helps me be safe, it does not tell me where to go. A cane
>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> also crappy companionship when on your own. When I am in an
>>>>>>>>>>> unknown
>>>>>>>>>>> area with my dog, though some people say this is not true, I
>>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>> tell my dog to find the sidewalk or whatever. She will and then
>>>>>>>>>>> once
>>>>>>>>>>> I have a landmark, I have my bearings and can go on from there.
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes,
>>>>>>>>>>> a cane is safe, but a dog gets you places AND is safe. You decide
>>>>>>>>>>> though and talk all that we say with what you think it is worth.
>>>>>>>>>>> Blessed Be. Eve
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Chantel Cuddemi
>>>>>>>>>>> <jawsgirl87 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I chose Pilot Dogs because they trained standard poodles, the
>>>>>>>>>>>> breed
>>>>>>>>>>>> I chose to train with, and I also chose Pilot because they're
>>>>>>>>>>>> right
>>>>>>>>>>>> here in Ohio.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Good luck with whatever school you choose.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Chantel and Motley.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>>>>>>> Anjelina
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cruz
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 10:31 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] A cane user interested in a dog guide
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Good morning all,
>>>>>>>>>>>> I am currently a cane user who recently has been interested in
>>>>>>>>>>>> choosing a dog guide school. How did you choose your school?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for any feedback.
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Anjelina
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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