[nagdu] 2 things in one

Cindy Ray cindyray at gmail.com
Sun Dec 8 21:34:18 UTC 2013 

I have never worried much about the dog in the cold. I am uncomfortable so stay out as short as is possible. I worry more in the heat.

Cindy

On Dec 8, 2013, at 10:46 AM, "Elizabeth Campbell" <batescampbell at charter.net> wrote:

> Hello all,
> 
> One of our instructors at The Seeing Eye gave us some excellent advice. If
> you are uncomfortable out in the weather, the same is probably true for your
> dog.
> So, plan accordingly. If it is overly hot or cold, I don't spend much time
> outside with Gabe. Also, you may want to give your dog a little extra food
> if you are going to be outside waiting for a bus or walking somewhere in
> cold weather.
> I do have boots and a waterproof jacket for Gabe, but he doesn't like to
> wear them so I don't worry about it. I've also found that the jacket
> interferes with the harness.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Liz
> 
> p.s. Right now, we are dealing with one of the worst ice storms to hit north
> Texas. I wish I had yack tracks or another type of shoe so that I can walk
> on the ice.
> Everything is frozen solid so I'm just letting Gabe out in my backyard, and
> I'm assuming he's doing his business! He seems to be handling the ice just
> fine.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kristeen Hughes
> Sent: Sunday, December 8, 2013 10:34 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] 2 things in one
> 
> A lot of dogs simply don't like the boots. It's the same with raincoats or
> any of that equipment. It is extra paraphernalia and there are usually other
> ways around it. I plan to try the wax. Mendle doesnot love the boots either,
> and sometimes in deep snow, they will come off. I've lost one on more than
> one occasion.
> 
> Kristeen & Mendle
> prefer the wax
> On Dec 8, 2013, at 11:18 AM, Raven Tolliver <ravend729 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Daniel,
>> As far as wearing the booties goes, or anything that a dog is 
>> uncomfortable wearing or reluctant to wear, I would suggest that you 
>> do not dish out the corrections. Instead, try to create a positive 
>> experience for the dog so that she associates good things with the 
>> boots.
>> Next, some dogs tolerate the boots and others don't. Personally, I 
>> hate the boots that the schools, or my school anyway, gives out. If 
>> the dog hates them too, I would advise using Musher's secret. Keep the 
>> booties on you just in case, but use the wax to avoid dealing with a 
>> stubborn or hesitant dog.
>> 
>> 
>> On 12/7/13, Daniel Sweeney <daniel.sweeney1 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> In order to not clutter up the list with too many posts, I am putting 
>>> a couple of thoughts in one email.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The first one came to me yesterday when I was out with Cass in our 
>>> nasty Denver single digit weather. The walks were icy, snow-packed 
>>> and some had snow melt applied and some had sand or salt. When I was 
>>> preparing to leave my house in the morning the temperature was -4F, 
>>> and Cass refused to walk in her boots. She just lay on the floor and 
>>> would not get up for love or money
>>> - or the best food reward put to her lips. Since I had little time to 
>>> deal with this, I quickly applied my Musher's wax on the paws and got 
>>> going. I was making connections that were short since a friend was 
>>> picking me up close by. At one point during the day I realized CASs 
>>> was pretty cold so I stopped and took my t-shirt off and put it 
>>> around her so she would have some protection. It was actually a 
>>> sweatshirt. I figured I had a coat on and I could stand to lose a 
>>> layer and be fine. That did the trick just fine. Then I realized I 
>>> had forgotten my Musher's and her paws were lifting off the ground. I 
>>> quickly sought a protected area with warmer walks which thankfully I 
>>> found pretty quickly. We waited a bit and then I decided to just call 
>>> a cab for the rest of the day. Through all of this ordeal I noticed 
>>> when I put the shirt on the girl, she put her head on my shoulder and 
>>> then licked me on my face as if to say "thanks, papa", and when I got 
>>> home and started to get us unpacked from the day, she stayed in place 
>>> and did the same thing instead of shaking herself off and cruising to 
>>> the kitchen for her usual drink of water and romp around the living 
>>> room. She just stood there licking me while I took my boots off and 
>>> tried to get myself together.  It was as if she knew I had a rough 
>>> time of it and she knew I was trying to look out for her. Now I know 
>>> most of you already know I am a crazy guy to begin with, but don't 
>>> you think it might be a possibility? This brings me to my first 
>>> question (officially). If you could ask your guide dog 3 things about 
>>> your relationship, what would they be?
>>> 
>>> I know it sounds silly, but it IS close to the holiday, and it is on 
>>> my mind how our guides perceive their jobs, or if they do at all.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Secondly, it is the weekend so I can't contact my school about the 
>>> boot thing, but has anyone had a problem with their guide refusing to 
>>> move with them. She wore them last winter about 4 times is all? I 
>>> know it is not her favorite thing in the world, but she never refused 
>>> to get up. I didn't think I should pull her up or give her a more 
>>> harsh correction than I did. I have been faulted for not giving harsh 
>>> enough corrections. I have improved on that and Cass has improved 
>>> completely in the areas I had been having issues in the past. This 
>>> was different. Cass is a "soft" dog, and I did not think she deserved 
>>> more than she got. So, I ask you for your thoughts on the matter.
>>> 
>>> Thanks to all, and to all a good day. Oh, those darn holidays.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Daniel and Cass
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> BTW: Welcome to the newbies. I am Daniel in Lakewood, Colorado with 
>>> Cass, my second guide dog from GDB, Oregon. She is a yellow lab. She 
>>> is everything my first was not. He got me hit by a truck, but there 
>>> was no hard feeling, only sadness to lose him because he was the 
>>> wrong match.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> While you are proclaiming peace with your lips
>>> 
>>> Be careful to have it more fully in your heart
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- sT. fRANCIS OF aSSISI
>>> 
>>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Raven
>> 
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