[nagdu] Escalators was RE: Bandanas and winter coats

Star Gazer pickrellrebecca at gmail.com
Mon Dec 9 20:21:00 UTC 2013


Escolator certification?? Can you explain a bit? What happens if someone who
didn't have escalator certification used an escalator?

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Darla Rogers
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 10:01 AM
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] Escalators was RE: Bandanas and winter coats

Dear Nicole,

	I'm guessing people weren't making sure the dog's nails were trimmed
closely enough and/or the hair around the feet.
	GDA does not make our dogs wear the boots, but you have to have
escalator certification in order to use them; some people in class chose not
to do this.
Darla & happy Huck


-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nicole Torcolini
Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 11:12 PM
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Subject: [nagdu] Escalators was RE: Bandanas and winter coats

Out of curiosity, why do some of the schools have the dogs wear boots on
escalators? GDB did not start doing this until after I received Lexia, so I
never got the full story on it. 

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Craig Heaps
Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 7:56 PM
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] Bandanas and winter coats

Chase wears his boots every day on his back feet to protect him on the
escalators at BART.  He doesn't mind them at all.

He knows that when we leave the BART station, his job is to find a bench to
jump up on so I can take his boots off.  It saves my aged old back not to
have to bend over to take them off.  I just wrap the velcro straps around
his harness handle and the boots are always within reach.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Sherry Gomes" <sherriola at gmail.com>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 5:50 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Bandanas and winter coats


> GDB trains all their dogs with booties during escalators, and then the 
> students in class, to put booties on the dogs to use escalators. I 
> don't ever do escalators, for many reasons, so I never practiced it. I 
> can't imagine Olga liking them much, but who knows.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Raven 
> Tolliver
> Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 6:46 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Bandanas and winter coats
>
> I too will never forget the day at GEB where the instructors had us 
> put the booties on our dogs. As soon as Kipling started galloping and 
> walking super fast, I died! I laughed so hard, I cried through the 
> majority of the practice session. And the same thing happened the 
> second time, which was outside.
> The problem with the boots is that dogs cannot feel the ground through 
> the footwear. This is one of the reasons why I prefer my dog to wear 
> thin, latex booties. The product Musher's secret is fantastic because 
> it creates an effective barrier between the salt and cold without 
> depriving a dog of its sense of touch through its feet.
>
>
>
> On 12/8/13, Nicole Torcolini <ntorcolini at wavecable.com> wrote:
>> Hahaha, yes. GDB did not yet issue boots when I received Lexia, but 
>> they had them for some of the upcoming classes and let me try them.
>> And, yes...
>> She
>> pranced like a horse. I guess that dogs just don't like stuff 
>> on/around their heds and feet.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Doug 
>> Parisian
>> Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 2:47 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Bandanas and winter coats
>>
>> To add to the conversation, I've never used a coat for my dogs in 
>> Winnipeg and at present, The wind chill here is minus 40, which is 
>> the same by the way in both selcius and Fahrenheit.  Mind, I'd not 
>> likely spend a lot of time outdoors in this weather, even though 
>> Douglas is currently dogless.
>>
>> Further, I've never found boots that either breath, or that don't 
>> absorb moisture.  TSI gave me boots (for my dog, also named Boots) 
>> and she hated them.  I do admit the first time we tried then in 
>> training, I got the giggles listening to this little baby horsy 
>> pattering
beside me.
>>
>> Usually, once I leave the house, I'm on and off at least one bus.  In 
>> winter, others get on the bus and naturally, there are little puddles 
>> on the floor, not due to cold passengers loosing control, but due to 
>> melting
> snow.
>>
>> So, the dog gets on the bus, walks through the puddles with boots 
>> picking up more water than would be with bare feet, gets off and 
>> boots freeze very quickly.  The rest should be obvious.
>>
>> The real problem to me is that, unlike dogs, I can dress in super 
>> winter clothing and feel quite warm.  Further, our dogs to not live 
>> out doors so that adapting to the cold, though it certainly does 
>> happen, may not be as rapid nor complete as for the outdoor pups.
>>
>> Doug: cold feet, warm heart?
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 3:35 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Bandanas and winter coats
>>
>>
>> : We actually have to adjust as well. After we have acclamated, we 
>> don't shiver so much either. Coats do grow to compensate, specially 
>> if you get out
>>
>> a lot.
>> : CL
>> :
>> : On Dec 8, 2013, at 10:49 AM, Shannon Dyer 
>> <solsticesinger at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> :
>> : > I'm not trying to cause offense, but I really don't see why 
>> people buy coats for their dogs. The common breeds (labs, goldens,
>> etc.) have very good
>>
>> coats to keep them warm. Labs are bred to be outdoors.
>> : >
>> : > Sure, there might be some initial shivering. My dogs have done 
>> this, but
>>
>> I figure they have to adjust to the change in temperature. If we 
>> cover
> them
>>
>> in coats and the like, they'll never adjust.
>> : >
>> : > Shannon and the Acelet
>> : > On Dec 8, 2013, at 1:02 AM, "Nicole Torcolini"
>> <ntorcolini at wavecable.com> wrote:
>> : >
>> : >> Lexia has a bunch of bandanas, but most of them are from her 
>> groomer or
>>
>> from
>> : >> the groomer that did the family pet dog back in the day. My 
>> mother
> did
>>
>> buy a
>> : >> few of the bandanas, but I don't know where she got them. In any
> case,
>>
>> Lexia
>> : >> does not mind them; I think that she actually likes them.
>> : >> Now that I live in California, Lexia does not need a Winter coat.
> When
>>
>> I
>> : >> lived in Washington State, I had one for her that I occasionally 
>> used when
>> : >> she came in and was damp or wet and cold. It looked a lot like a
> horse
>> : >> blanket, but it was not something that a dog would wear outside.
>> Someone
>> : >> also made Lexia a sweater. If I remember correctly, it was made 
>> to go over
>> : >> the harness handle.
>> : >>
>> : >> Nicole and Lexia
>> : >>
>> : >> -----Original Message-----
>> : >> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Sherry Gomes
>> : >> Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2013 6:38 PM
>> : >> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> : >> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Bandanas and winter coats
>> : >>
>> : >> I just bought some bandanas from amazon. You can find almost 
>> anything there.
>> : >> My retired dog never liked any sort of clothing thing on her, 
>> but I think
>> : >> Olga will actually like it. We'll see. they weren't expensive so 
>> if neither
>> : >> likes them it will be ok.
>> : >>
>> : >> Sherry
>> : >>
>> : >>
>> : >>
>> : >> -----Original Message-----
>> : >> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of minh 
>> ha
>> : >> Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2013 5:42 PM
>> : >> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog 
>> Users
>> : >> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Bandanas and winter coats
>> : >>
>> : >> Alyssa,
>> : >> I'm glad you found cute bandanas for Sophie--our dogs need to be 
>> in style
>> : >> too. :D
>> : >>
>> : >> As for the winter coat, I definitely think you should get her 
>> one if she was
>> : >> shivering. What kind of dog is she? Viva is a yellow lab but her 
>> fur is
>> : >> super short so she was shivering too when the temperatures got 
>> down
> to
>>
>> about
>> : >> 10 degrees here. I know some dogs don't need a coat because 
>> their fur is
>> : >> nice and thick and that gives them enough protection from the cold. 
>> I
>> bought
>> : >> Viva a simple fleece-lined coat from Petco to give her a little 
>> bit more
>> : >> warmth. Most coats that are sold commercially go underneath the 
>> harness
>>
>> so
>> : >> you would have to loosen the harness strap to fit it over the coat.
> My
>>
>> mom
>> : >> knows how to sew and she's actually going to make Viva a custom
> fleece
>>
>> coat
>> : >> over break that can go over the harness. I'm really excited 
>> about
> this
>> : >> because it's a pain to have readjusting the harness strap back 
>> and forth
>> : >> depending on whether or not the temperature outside is cold 
>> enough to
>> : >> warrant the coat.
>> : >>
>> : >> Hope this helps,
>> : >> Minh
>> : >>
>> : >> On 12/7/13, Alyssa <alyssahenson95 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> : >>> Hello all. I'm sorry for posting so many questions lately, but 
>> this is
>> : >>> my first dog and I want to make sure all is right. I'd first 
>> like to
>> : >>> say
>> : >> thanks
>> : >>> for the bandana suggestions. Sophie has an NIU bandana from our
>> : >>> bookstore too. I found a couple cute Christmas ones at Walmart 
>> for a
>> : >>> dollar a piece for anyone else who is looking. And now, the
> question.
>> : >>> Here in Illinois,
>> : >> it
>> : >>> got down to 14 degrees last night. I had to take a short walk 
>> from a
>> : >>> building to my friend's car. During this 2 minute walk, Sophie 
>> began
>> : >>> shivering and continued to do so during the 10 minute car ride 
>> we
>> : >>> took. Is this normal? Should I purchase Sophie a winter coat? 
>> Is there
>> : >>> a certain
>> : >> one
>> : >>> that won't interfere with her harness? All help is appreciated.
>> Thanks
>> : >>> everyone!
>> : >>> Alyssa and Sophie
>> : >>>
>> : >>> Sent from my iPhone
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