[nagdu] people taking pictures of dog or wanting to take pictures of your dog
Eve Sanchez
celticyaya at gmail.com
Fri Feb 15 03:31:34 UTC 2013
Gina, Thanks for clarification. That is unreal, but some people are like
that I guess. I do not know who you wre talking to about the email address,
probably Lyn, but I will give you mine as I love emails. haha It's
celticyaya at gmail.com Blessings. Eve
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 7:12 PM, d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net> wrote:
> this lady only wanted the lions to work with leader dogs, no other school.
> She didn't want anyone to be better than she was with her dog.
> She has passed on now, so I don't have to worry.
> I will keep after the lions to get us set up for December.
> So we know when this will happen, and how can we help to pull it off.
> Our part that is.
> I knew I was out and about threw out the city and folks would see me.
> Either at the mall or wall mart, any place like that.
> I don't have your email address, it doesn't show up.
> So I am sure I am past my five messages.
> Original message:
>
> Ummm Dar,
>> This lady is a blind Lion with a guide dog but she doesn't want any other
>> guide dog users in the parade - did I hear this right?? If so, what is
>> that
>> all about? She can't control her dog?
>>
>
> That reminds me about the time I was at an event in Balboa Park were there
>> wwere alot of dogs and a mini horse there. The police were doing a police
>> dog demonstration - the dog ran to bite the man in the padded suit to show
>> how a police dog apprehends a criminal who is trying to flee. I had my
>> guide dog with me and I had stopped to watch. The cop actually told me to
>> move on because my dog was a distraction to the police dog! I said that
>> maybe he needs to teach his dog to work with distractions like mine was.
>> My
>> dog was able to work well with all the distractions aroound at that event.
>> the cop had nothing to say to coounter what i said to him. Ballsy me!
>>
>
> Hey, I'd go to the parade anyway and tell that woman to do some refresher
>> in
>> distraction work with her dog!
>>
>
> Lyn and Landon
>> "Asking who's the man and who's the woman in an LGBT relationship is like
>> asking which chopstick is the fork" - Unknown
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "d m gina" <dmgina at samobile.net>
>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 6:11 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] people taking pictures of dog or wanting to take
>> pictures of your dog
>>
>
>
> yes we had a lady who was in the parade with her dog.
>>> She didn't want anyone else to come.
>>> Especially with a dog.
>>> She was a lion.
>>> So we have friends who are lions where we could set it up.
>>> I will ask early so we can get it started.
>>> Original message:
>>>
>>>> Hi Dar,
>>>> To be in a parade, one must be associated with a group who is in the
>>>> parade.
>>>> I march in our LGBT Pride parade with a group I belong to - actually,
>>>> I'd
>>>> have to split myself in twos or threes to march in all the groups I
>>>> belong
>>>> to that are contingents in the parade! LOL! Landon and I are also in
>>>> our
>>>> neighborhoood Christmas Toyland Parade as part of our contingent from
>>>> our
>>>> Blind Community Center. We have our Center's bus in it with the people
>>>> who
>>>> can't walk but several of our members with guide dogs do walk in the
>>>> parade.
>>>> We decorate our dogs in holiday collars. Landon has learned how to walk
>>>> in
>>>> the street in a parade from the many street demonstrations we've been in
>>>> over the years! He has to teach the other guide dogs who NEVER walk in
>>>> the
>>>> street except for making street crossings. LOL! We do have sighted help
>>>> in
>>>> helping us to keep in our contingent, tell us when to stop, turn, and to
>>>> go
>>>> after we stop to let the contingents to maintain proper spacing that
>>>> keeps
>>>> the parade moving smoothly along. Some people just go sighted guide and
>>>> heel their dogs.
>>>>
>>>
> For you, join a group that marches in your holiday parade and maybe you
>>>> can
>>>> march or be on a float in it. It's alot of fun and people enjoy seeing
>>>> guide and other service dogs in parades. Remember that street pavement
>>>> is
>>>> usually hotter than regular sidewalks. Streets are blacktop which sucks
>>>> in
>>>> the heat and most sidewalks are white concrete which repells some of the
>>>> heat - depends on time of year and location.
>>>>
>>>
> For me to determine when I need to put Landon's booties on, I will place
>>>> my
>>>> palm flat on the street. If I go, "Yow!" and pull my hand off in only
>>>> seconds, it is bootie time! If I can keep my hand there as long as I
>>>> want
>>>> to keep it there without discomfort, well, Landon can go barefoot.
>>>> People
>>>> want to take Landon's picture in his booties is mainly because most
>>>> people
>>>> never give a hot pavement a thought when they briong their dogs out in
>>>> parades - this happens in the Pride parade and street fairs because
>>>> these
>>>> are held in the middle of our summer heat with the strongest sunshine.
>>>> Countless people have come up to me to thank me for putting booties on
>>>> my
>>>> dog and they tell me about the poor dogs who has less than attentive
>>>> owners.
>>>> Those dogs are picking up each foot over and over because their pads are
>>>> burning on the blacktop! Poor doggies!
>>>>
>>>
> Lyn and Landon
>>>>
>>>
> "Asking who's the man and who's the woman in an LGBT relationship is like
>>>> asking which chopstick is the fork" - Unknown
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "d m gina" <dmgina at samobile.net>
>>>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 2:32 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] people taking pictures of dog or wanting to take
>>>> pictures of your dog
>>>>
>>>
>
> I need to work with my dog with his booties.
>>>>> That is a swell idea in a parade to have him wear them.
>>>>> I would love to see us in the Christmas parade this year.
>>>>> How far advanced do you need to plan for this?
>>>>>
>>>>
> Original message:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Eve,
>>>>>> I can see what you mean about the labels, "partials or sighteds" and
>>>>>> "Totals" and the stigmas attached to them. This sucks but is reality.
>>>>>> It
>>>>>> is like in the Black community light skinned or dark skinned and the
>>>>>> stigma
>>>>>> is more on the dark skinned as the totals are looked upon as less in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> blind community. On both couonts it is wrong!
>>>>>>
>>>>>
> You should NEVER play second fiddle to anyone else just because they
>>>>>> may
>>>>>> possess more or full eyesight. I've seen this behavior mainly in the
>>>>>> blind
>>>>>> schools where some people feel the need to dump on someone else -
>>>>>> well,
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> totals. Partials have some sight so they would be in the "sighted
>>>>>> camp"
>>>>>> even though partials get crap from both sides - fully sighted (you're
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> really blind - you're faking it!) or totals who may begrudge partials
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> having some sighted privilege. But we all - totals and partials -
>>>>>> really
>>>>>> get the crap from society that decides what we can or can't do based
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> misconceptions, fear, and plain old bigotry rather than going to the
>>>>>> experts - those of us with the blindness.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
> The truth is that we are all blind and we all have alot of challenges
>>>>>> although they may vary. I have friends who are fully sighted,
>>>>>> partially
>>>>>> sighted, and totally blind - makes no difference to me. I judge them
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> what kind of person they are. Yeah, I'm a low partial - I use a guide
>>>>>> dog.
>>>>>> I used to be a high partial when I was a teenager and I rode my bike
>>>>>> all
>>>>>> over town. I agree, we should junk the labels and just become people
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> some extra issues to be dealt with.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
> Oh yeah, I don't care who takes my dog's picture. Landon's wound up on
>>>>>> people's Facebook! They all ask me first. Landon was doing something
>>>>>> cute
>>>>>> like lie with his head up and his front legs crossed like he was
>>>>>> royalty!
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> saw the pix and thought they were very cute. They didn't take my
>>>>>> picture -
>>>>>> just the dog. The people who took the pix then asked me about guide
>>>>>> dogs
>>>>>> and I used it as a learning/teaching moment. I have some of these cute
>>>>>> pix
>>>>>> on my own Facebook timeline and i don't mind if my FB friends share
>>>>>> them.
>>>>>> Many of these friends love Landon! LOL! Oh, who knows how many pix
>>>>>> get
>>>>>> taken of Landon with his booties on as we march in the Pride Parade!
>>>>>> Maybe
>>>>>> seeing Landon in booties will remind them to use booties on their own
>>>>>> dogs
>>>>>> on hot pavement. One never knows.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
> Take care,
>>>>>>
>>>>>
> Lyn and Landon
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>
> "Asking who's the man and who's the woman in an LGBT relationship is
>>>>>> like
>>>>>> asking which chopstick is the fork" - Unknown
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Eve Sanchez" <celticyaya at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 6:02 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] people taking pictures of dog or wanting to take
>>>>>> pictures of your dog
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>
> I have no problem with my dog getting her picture taken as long as no
>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>> talks to her and I am not in the picture without knowing. I may be
>>>>>>> having
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> fat day or not have my makeup on or something. My dog is not as vain.
>>>>>>> What
>>>>>>> does piss me off, in a side note, is the designation between sighted
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> totals. This always seems to come from the 'total' as they like to
>>>>>>> call
>>>>>>> themselves as seems to be a type of prejudice in that they feel they
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> more disabled or more blind than others. Sorry to vent on this, but
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> really pisses me off and I know I am not the only one who feels this
>>>>>>> way
>>>>>>> though many people will not say so. I would appreciate the terms
>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>> away. Thanks for the opportunity to get my word out. Eve
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
> On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 1:36 PM, cheryl echevarria
>>>>>>> <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>
> Yes I am also with Lion International and the Brentwood Chamber of
>>>>>>>> Commerce and other Travel Agent Organizations.
>>>>>>>> But I do not let anyone come up to me and take a picture of me or
>>>>>>>> Maxx.
>>>>>>>> These are different situations.
>>>>>>>> Have a great day to all. Bright and sunny after the Blizzard. Um
>>>>>>>> isn't
>>>>>>>> Nemo a fish and Captain Nemo for 20,000 leagues under the sea, I
>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>> know where they get the names of these storms from.
>>>>>>>> Lol.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
> Disabled Entrepreneur of the Year 2012 of NY State
>>>>>>>> Leading the Way in Independent Travel!SNG Certified - Accessible
>>>>>>>> Travel
>>>>>>>> Advocate!Cheryl Echevarria, Ownerhttp://
>>>>>>>> www.echevarriatravel.com631-**456-5394reservations@**
>>>>>>>> echevarriatravel.comhttp://**www.echevarriatravel.**
>>>>>>>> wordpress.com2012
>>>>>>>> Norwegian Cruise Line University Advisory Board Member.
>>>>>>>> Affiliated as an independent contractor with Montrose TravelCST -
>>>>>>>> #1018299-10Echevarria Travel and proud member of the National
>>>>>>>> Federation
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> the Blind will be holding a year round fundraiser for the
>>>>>>>> http://www.NFBNY.org <http://www.nfbny.org/> <http://www.nfbny.org/>
>>>>>>>> after Hurricane Sandy
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> other resources. Any vacation package booked between November 6
>>>>>>>> 2012-November 6, 2013 and vacation must be traveled no later than
>>>>>>>> 12/30/2014 a percentage of my earnings will go to the affiliate.
>>>>>>>> Also
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> you book a Sandals for couples or Beaches for families and friends
>>>>>>>> resorts
>>>>>>>> vacation, $100.00 per booking will go to the affiliate as well. You
>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>> need to be a member of the NFB.org, just book through us.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>
> From: lkeeler at comcast.net
>>>>>>>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>> Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 16:22:35 -0500
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] people taking pictures of dog or wanting to
>>>>>>>>> take
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> pictures of your dog
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
> Cheryl, sometimes I do and sometimes I don't. I have a picture of
>>>>>>>>> Holly
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I with the bishop. I also have a couple with the Knights of
>>>>>>>>> Columbus.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> AIn
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> these cases, I allowed it to prove that these organizations will
>>>>>>>>> admit
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> approve of blind folks and there service animals.
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> To: "nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>; "nyagdu" <nyagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 12:05 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] people taking pictures of dog or wanting to take
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> pictures
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> of your dog
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>
>
> Good morning everyone:
>>>>>>>>>> Nelson is busy shoveling the snow outside from Nemo, Blizzard
>>>>>>>>>> 2013.
>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, while I was in Washington, D.C. this past week with some
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> you. I
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> was talking with some members of the Utah Chapter and a woman, who
>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> a member of the NFB, a guest in the hotel asked me if she could
>>>>>>>>>> take
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> picture of Maxx.
>>>>>>>>>> I said no. She asked me why. Well first I said, "Because I do not
>>>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> dog all over social media from strangers that I do not know", she
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> became
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> quite obnoxious about it. I put it to her this way. I said are you
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> parent, she said yes. Well would you like any of your family or
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> children
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> to have there pictures taken by strangers posted all over the
>>>>>>>>>> internet.
>>>>>>>>>> That is not right.
>>>>>>>>>> Then she got it and understood.
>>>>>>>>>> Have you had the same issues. Sometime someone tells me that they
>>>>>>>>>> took
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> picture of me and the dog, and I get upset, only because they
>>>>>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ask
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and the same issue. I should be the one to post pictures and videos
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and maxx if I want, but not strangers.
>>>>>>>>>> Cheryl
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
> Disabled Entrepreneur of the Year 2012 of NY State
>>>>>>>>>> Leading the Way in Independent Travel!SNG Certified - Accessible
>>>>>>>>>> Travel
>>>>>>>>>> Advocate!Cheryl Echevarria,
>>>>>>>>>> Ownerhttp://www.**echevarriatravel.com631-456-**5394reservations
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> @echevarriatravel.comhttp://**www.echevarriatravel.**
>>>>>>>> wordpress.com2012
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Norwegian Cruise Line University Advisory Board Member.
>>>>>>>>>> Affiliated as an independent contractor with Montrose TravelCST -
>>>>>>>>>> #1018299-10Echevarria Travel and proud member of the National
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Federation
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> of the Blind will be holding a year round fundraiser for the
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.NFBNY.org <http://www.nfbny.org/> <
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.nfbny.org/> after Hurricane Sandy
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and other resources. Any
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> vacation package booked between November 6 2012-November 6, 2013
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> vacation must be traveled no later than 12/30/2014 a percentage of
>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>> earnings will go to the affiliate. Also is you book a Sandals for
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> couples
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> or Beaches for families and friends resorts vacation, $100.00 per
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> booking
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> will go to the affiliate as well. You do not need to be a member
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> NFB.org, just book through us.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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