[nagdu] National Convention--my opinion

d m gina dmgina at samobile.net
Wed Jul 10 21:03:50 UTC 2013 

I agree with you,
Especially when I didn't wish to have my dog going where I would have 
to step in dog glory.
I know my dog didn't drop.
he uses the toileting harness.
I just asked for help off the curb.
he tends to jerk me where I didn't wish to fall.
I felt angry when I was told my dogs paw was stepped on, where no one 
said I am sorry.
the dog was limping.
I didn't realize this until a sighted person told me.
At no time my tough little dog didn't complain.
I would miss my dog, where I would consider leaving him home with all I 
saw this week.
There is no excuse under no condition that a dog should be pushed 
around anything like this to get some where.
I was disappointed not only in my school but other schools to help us 
learn how to get to the different areas in the building.
I know this would have helped me allot.
Especially when I would get disoriented.
I even asked my school if they could help me out.
The only reply I got was, they didn't like the dog runs, just to ask or help.
I thought I did.
Original message:
> Hello,
> I do not agree with the required fee for the relief areas. If you have 
> a required fee, that would be going against everything We stand for. 
> Our dogs are supposed to go with us everywhere, without the hindrance 
> of any extra fees that  anyone else would incur on the same day or at 
> the same time. Those with canes do not have to pay an extra fee, so, I 
> think it makes sense to ask for donations, but not to require them. If 
> we start requiring them  for the relief areas, are employers  may also 
> start doing the same things so that we can have a relief area.  This 
> does not make sense to me, though I do not mean to offend anyone by my 
> statements. I say that is the same for us as it would be for any other 
> organization that we might become a part of, including our work, or 
> other activities. We should have the same rights as any other person, 
> and should not have to pay any extra fees, just so our dogs can come 
> with us. I think requiring fees is asking for trouble. People will not 
> relieve their do
>  gs in the relief areas, or they will relieve them, but not clean up 
> after them  or do any number of other things that could damage the 
> hotel property. Also, this could greatly affect people's perceptions of 
> the Nfb's view on guidedogs, a viewwhich we are just now starting to 
> change among the general public. Just my thoughts.


> Aleeha Sent from my iPad

> On Jul 10, 2013, at 1:14 PM, Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com> wrote:

>> Margo, I think if we pay a fee that is a required one, and if we don't 
>> have the folks to adequately care for it, we need to hire some company. 
>> It is a huge issue to have that material hauled from Maryland. I wonder 
>> why they don't do it that way anyway? I really hadn't thought much of this.

>> CL

>> On Jul 10, 2013, at 12:06 PM, "Margo and Arrow" 
>> <margo.downey at verizon.net> wrote:

>>> I think it should be a required charge.  Also, you know, we can learn from
>>> other organizations and I hope we don't get into the thing of not doing
>>> something because A C B or some other organization does it.  I still would
>>> like to see a company that does this type of work do the work instead of the
>>> National Center.

>>> Margo and Arrow

>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michael Hingson
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 11:36 AM
>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] National Convention--my opinion

>>> The NFB does pay for the relief area.  As I said, I think a voluntary fee
>>> option on the pre registration form and an option for people who register at
>>> the convention would be good.  What we need to do is to make this whole
>>> thing more visible to all members.

>>> Not to copy or anything, but the ACB has this option on its registration
>>> forms.  It does work.

>>> I will not comment much on making this a requirement except to say that at
>>> the convention people charge for all kinds of things.  It is reasonable to
>>> consider asking guide dog users to help defray the relief area costs.  Also,
>>> non guide dog users may wish to help.


>>> Best,


>>> Michael Hingson

>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Darla Rogers
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 08:20 AM
>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] National Convention--my opinion I hear what you are
>>> saying Julie, but would the National Convention pay for it out of its funds?
>>> Darla & Handsome Huck


>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Julie J.
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 10:01 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] National Convention--my opinion

>>> Isn't requiring guide dog users to pay a fee for a service or participating
>>> in an event against our beliefs as an organization?

>>> I've always felt that NAGDU  was opposed to charging guide dog users fees
>>> based on their choice to use a guide dog.  I don't know about the legality
>>> of doing this in this particular situation, but if the hotel did it, there
>>> would be a giant fuss about it.  If we wouldn't put up with it from the
>>> hotel, why would we impose it on ourselves?  I'm not trying to start
>>> anything, but it seems like a contradiction to me.

>>> Julie


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